USMLE - Official 2015 Step 2 CK Experiences and Scores Thread

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With 2015 right around the corner I think it's a good time to begin a Step 2 CK experiences and scores thread for 2015. Let's keep the all experiences and scores in this thread.

Good luck to everyone taking the exam in 2015!
 
I'd say the max you can do a day is 3. That's if you study throughout the day diligently. That would be for me. But everyone's different, so why don't you give it a day to try and see if you can do it and then decide accordingly?
Thanks! That's what I was thinking. Maybe give it a few days too see what's up. I appreciate the input boss.
 
We have an extra block as compared to Step 1, 8 blocks +1 hour break, 9hrs total.

How did you all plan your breaks during the day or think of how you will plan those breaks? Did anyone do back to back (e.g. 2 blocks , break, 2 blocks, longer lunch break, 2 blocks, break, 2blocks?)

The prometric center I have nearby has a bathroom which is about a 3-4 minute walk to the lobby. I haven't factored the sign-in time and walk factor just yet and wanted to hear ideas from you all to plan ahead.

Also, are the rules still the same on not writing anything on your marker board until you begin the tutorial (e.g. for biostats equations?)

You do blocks. If you feel you need to urinate, defecate, eat solids, or drink liquids that's when you take a break. At least that's what I did, in that order.
 
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Going to have 2.5 weeks to study for the exam with hopes of doing World and 2-3 NBMEs plus the free 150. Have done the clinical mastery series throughout the year, not sure how much going through those again would help. Don't have time for anything else. Is this going to be enough prep? Feels pretty rushed but oh well.

Background: 260+ Step 1, avg 94 on shelfs
 
Going to have 2.5 weeks to study for the exam with hopes of doing World and 2-3 NBMEs plus the free 150. Have done the clinical mastery series throughout the year, not sure how much going through those again would help. Don't have time for anything else. Is this going to be enough prep? Feels pretty rushed but oh well.

Background: 260+ Step 1, avg 94 on shelfs

I'm doing the same prep, with 3 weeks to study. Background 260+ Step 1, avg 83 on shelfs. Let's do this.

Good to see some familiar faces from the Step 1 and shelf threads. Congrats to everyone who finished and good luck to everyone waiting for results/studying.
 
You do blocks. If you feel you to urinate, defecate, eat solids, or drink liquids that's when you take a break. At least that's what I did, in that order.

lol, thanks. I'm not sure on planning the defecating part 😛, just wanted to know if anyone mentally prepared beforehand on planning those blocks. With the unexpected events, I would imagine anyone having to take a break during the end of that very next block though!

WOW, just got done with the test. After step 1 I felt like I got dumped on, after CK.... I think I just got hit by a bus, totally blind sided. Time management was such an issue for me also, completely guessed on about 10 questions maybe. Not that similar to clinical mastery series if you ask me. Just speechless right now *sigh* The next 3 weeks of waiting is gonna be hell...

Could you clarify on the mastery series more WANDOC? I was planning on buying those soon. Did they also have extended feedback options like some of the NBMEs?

Going to have 2.5 weeks to study for the exam with hopes of doing World and 2-3 NBMEs plus the free 150. Have done the clinical mastery series throughout the year, not sure how much going through those again would help. Don't have time for anything else. Is this going to be enough prep? Feels pretty rushed but oh well.

Background: 260+ Step 1, avg 94 on shelfs

I'm doing the same prep, with 3 weeks to study. Background 260+ Step 1, avg 83 on shelfs. Let's do this.

Good to see some familiar faces from the Step 1 and shelf threads. Congrats to everyone who finished and good luck to everyone waiting for results/studying.

How do you all feel with what WANDOC said about the Clinical Mastery Series? Are they much more different than the NBME Assessments?

Also with the NBME assessments now, Is NBME 4 still one of the better predictors? I don't hear many people mentioning from the exam experience from the 1st 3 NBMEs much. I think one or two forms for NBME are duplicates but in another format?
 
How do you all feel with what WANDOC said about the Clinical Mastery Series? Are they much more
different than the NBME Assessments?

People seem to have been pretty divided on whether they're helpful for shelfs and Step 2. If you go back a page, you'll see Xbocker enthusiastically recommending to do as many as possible. I guess it's personal preference. I get a good amount out of value out of them (not as much as UWorld, but...) by reviewing the incorrects and more importantly, the ones I got correct. Plus, it's worth it just for the diagnostic aspect to satisfy my anxious curiosity.

As for how they compare to the shelf NBME's, not sure yet as I haven't taken any. It's been a while since I've taken the shelf NBME's anyway, so I need more NBME exposure.
 
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lol, thanks. I'm not sure on planning the defecating part 😛, just wanted to know if anyone mentally prepared beforehand on planning those blocks. With the unexpected events, I would imagine anyone having to take a break during the end of that very next block though!



Could you clarify on the mastery series more WANDOC? I was planning on buying those soon. Did they also have extended feedback options like some of the NBMEs?





How do you all feel with what WANDOC said about the Clinical Mastery Series? Are they much more different than the NBME Assessments?

Also with the NBME assessments now, Is NBME 4 still one of the better predictors? I don't hear many people mentioning from the exam experience from the 1st 3 NBMEs much. I think one or two forms for NBME are duplicates but in another format?


I did all 12 forms of clinical mastery series, aside from a couple of questions that were very very very very similar, the rest were just meh for me. In my opinion, neuro forms weren't necessary, as the real deal didn't go into as much detail, and for peds/OBGYN/Psych and even medicine, the real deal was considerably harder. Even for surgery, the topic is just too broad I guess. Most of the questions on the real thing were either really vague or felt like two different presentations mixed together to me, half of the time I was just guessing answers w/o really knowing the diagnosis

But you know what though, UW2, CMS, NBME practice tests are still the best you could do in preparing, I mean what else is there?

Btw just so u know where I'm coming from, I scored in the 260's in step 1, and my UW, UWSA/NBME averages for step 2 were very similar.

Half way through CK I felt so horrible I actually had the thought of just quitting and wanted to just run out of there. @@
 
lol, thanks. I'm not sure on planning the defecating part 😛, just wanted to know if anyone mentally prepared beforehand on planning those blocks. With the unexpected events, I would imagine anyone having to take a break during the end of that very next block though!



Could you clarify on the mastery series more WANDOC? I was planning on buying those soon. Did they also have extended feedback options like some of the NBMEs?





How do you all feel with what WANDOC said about the Clinical Mastery Series? Are they much more different than the NBME Assessments?

Also with the NBME assessments now, Is NBME 4 still one of the better predictors? I don't hear many people mentioning from the exam experience from the 1st 3 NBMEs much. I think one or two forms for NBME are duplicates but in another format?
I use the Clinical Mastery series for every shelf, mainly for reassurance that I'm on track for the shelf. I have run across some repeats though on the shelfs, which was also a nice plus. I've found them reasonably predictive, outside of medicine (did significantly worse on the shelf) and ob (did significantly better).
 
Quick question: I'm looking to knock out 4 UW blocks per day. (This will b second pass since I used UW throughout 3rd year for shelf prep). Realistic?

I think it is possible. Just took my exam on 05/30 and studied for the past four and a half weeks with scattered days off. I started by doing three blocks a day on tutor mode and worked up to doing four per day. Won't get my actual score for a couple weeks, but I scored 256 nbme 4, 258 nbme 6 and 262 on UWSA so hopefully things turn out well for me.
 
Btw just so u know where I'm coming from, I scored in the 260's in step 1, and my UW, UWSA/NBME averages for step 2 were very similar.

Half way through CK I felt so horrible I actually had the thought of just quitting and wanted to just run out of there. @@

That bad, huh? Insane. More than for Step 1, though, don't people get particularly pleasantly surprised on this test? I'm sure you'll be fine.
 
That bad, huh? Insane. More than for Step 1, though, don't people get particularly pleasantly surprised on this test? I'm sure you'll be fine.

Trying my best to keep my head up, but hard to believe I'll do well considering I had to flat out guess on so many questions. BTW, you, Phloston, and chessmaster's posts from the step 1 thread helped me immensely during my step 1 prep so big thanks for that! I have no doubt you'll rock CK also.
 
Trying my best to keep my head up, but hard to believe I'll do well considering I had to flat out guess on so many questions. BTW, you, Phloston, and chessmaster's posts from the step 1 thread helped me immensely during my step 1 prep so big thanks for that! I have no doubt you'll rock CK also.

Great to hear I helped man. Thanks for the advice and encouragement.
 
Q for recent test takers, any double or triple acid base questions on the exam? Thanks!
 
We have an extra block as compared to Step 1, 8 blocks +1 hour break, 9hrs total.

How did you all plan your breaks during the day or think of how you will plan those breaks? Did anyone do back to back (e.g. 2 blocks , break, 2 blocks, longer lunch break, 2 blocks, break, 2blocks?)

The prometric center I have nearby has a bathroom which is about a 3-4 minute walk to the lobby. I haven't factored the sign-in time and walk factor just yet and wanted to hear ideas from you all to plan ahead.

Also, are the rules still the same on not writing anything on your marker board until you begin the tutorial (e.g. for biostats equations?)

Yes the ~1 hour of breakdown I split between blocks 2-3 (~5min bathroom), 4-5 (~30min lunch), and 6-7 (~10min, eat a snack, mental pause for the final stretch). There's plenty of time to spare because I think you get an hour total.
 
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Took this beast yesterday so no score yet but just a run-down of what I experienced
a) SO MANY HEART QUESTIONS where you listen to the heart. I think nine total. Also three lungs questions where you listen to the lungs
b) very few biostats. The ones I had were either SUPER easy (just know your stuff from FA1) or you need a phd in statistics to figure it out so just move on
c) had a fair number of wtfff questions?? just kept telling myself they were experimental...
d) had a ton of musculoskeletal and dermatome stuff. which was def not expected
e) some blocks were MUCH harder than others. Sometimes I'd have five minutes left at the end (lots of really long questions) to review my work, other times I had a half hour.
f) testing center was great about putting me first to get me in and out, lots of people were taking shorter tests but they put me in the corner so I wouldnt be disturbed which was nice (although could have just been luck). sometimes did have a line for the bathroom
Overall I left the test feeling like I wanted to puke from mental and physical exhaustion. Horrible feeling about the test, but I'm pretty sure thats how everyone feels. I will come back and repost with my NBME scores and my real score in three weeks or so!
 
Took this beast yesterday so no score yet but just a run-down of what I experienced
a) SO MANY HEART QUESTIONS where you listen to the heart. I think nine total. Also three lungs questions where you listen to the lungs
b) very few biostats. The ones I had were either SUPER easy (just know your stuff from FA1) or you need a phd in statistics to figure it out so just move on
c) had a fair number of wtfff questions?? just kept telling myself they were experimental...
d) had a ton of musculoskeletal and dermatome stuff. which was def not expected
e) some blocks were MUCH harder than others. Sometimes I'd have five minutes left at the end (lots of really long questions) to review my work, other times I had a half hour.
f) testing center was great about putting me first to get me in and out, lots of people were taking shorter tests but they put me in the corner so I wouldnt be disturbed which was nice (although could have just been luck). sometimes did have a line for the bathroom
Overall I left the test feeling like I wanted to puke from mental and physical exhaustion. Horrible feeling about the test, but I'm pretty sure thats how everyone feels. I will come back and repost with my NBME scores and my real score in three weeks or so!

Congrats on being done. You know while I'm using Uworld for Step 2 I'm realizing that A LOT OF this information is in First aid for Step 1. I don't understand why a lot of people don't just run through FA Step 1 real quick skipping all the useless information (embryo, some of the physio, some of the biochem, some of the minute immunology details). The Pathology, Genetics, Micro (to some degree) all seem very high yield.
 
My school made my class take a practice Step 2CK NBME recently and we just got our scores back. I was curious, since these are always different from exam to exam, how well they correlate to the actual thing?

I got a 98 raw score on mine. The conversion scale stops at 90, which gives a 3 digit score of >250, but I was wondering if anybody had a more realistic 3 digit score for a 98?

Also, for anybody who's taken these before, did you think the questions were representative? Of the 4 blocks, 3 of them I finished my questions and a review with 10-15 minutes left, but given what people say about the real thing, I don't want to count on that kind of time cushion.
 
Pathology yes. All my micro was super basic, so it was def covered by FA but too much detail. I used mtb2 and it was more than sufficient. I had literally ZERO, not a single genetics question.
 
My school made my class take a practice Step 2CK NBME recently and we just got our scores back. I was curious, since these are always different from exam to exam, how well they correlate to the actual thing?

I got a 98 raw score on mine. The conversion scale stops at 90, which gives a 3 digit score of >250, but I was wondering if anybody had a more realistic 3 digit score for a 98?

Also, for anybody who's taken these before, did you think the questions were representative? Of the 4 blocks, 3 of them I finished my questions and a review with 10-15 minutes left, but given what people say about the real thing, I don't want to count on that kind of time cushion.

There is a strong correlation. A 98 raw is in the 265+ range. The questions are definitely representative. You should consider taking several NBME practice tests and average your score for better predictive value.
 
MOST HELPFUL SOURCES and the ONLY 5 sources I recommend:
1.) FA Step 1 & Medical School Step 1 knowledge material as reference.

2.) UW2, do that 2-3 times. Read ALL explanations AT LEAST TWICE. Read ALL educational OBJECTIVES AT LEAST 3 times.
This is coming from someone who is not a genius. So if you can read it once or twice and get it, more power to you.

3.) Clinical Mastery Series and Self Assessments.

4.) MTB 2 CK (Since all of my UW, NBME, Clinical Mastery Series, and UWSA notes were in it) and MTB 3 was also helpful for me a tad since I am a relatively new to clinical rotations. Also throw in Pestanas Surgery Notes.

5.) Pholston's PDF (Probably should give this a thorough read once or twice before you even start studying.)


THIS IS AN EXTENSIVE SUMMARY OF WHAT I DID, I USED A TON OF RESOURCES IN THE FIRST MONTH OF MY PREP WHICH WAS NOT NECESSARY:

Sources I used:
1.) MTB 2 & MTB 3
2.) UW qbank
3.) Rx qbank
4.) USMLE Step 2 Secrets
5.) First Aid Step 1
6.) Pestana's Surgery notes
7.) Clinical Mastery Series
8.) NBMEs & UWSA

How I studied:
1.) Read MTB 2 twice, finished Rx qbank, and then took my first NBME and failed it.

2.) Started UW along with reading MTB 2 third time and reading MTB 3 for the first time. Made notes on anything I did not know and anything I found important. Read ALL explanations even for the ones I got right I put all notes into MTB 2.
Took my second NBME, score went up 25 points.

3.) Read MTB 2 third time and MTB 3 second time and repeated UW again without taking notes and just reading explanations. Took third NBME score went up 5-10 points.

4.) Did all Clinical Mastery Series questions 100 qs a day in 6 days. Took a picture of all questions and made notes directly into MTB 2. Took another NBME score went up 5-10 points.

5.) Reviewed all educational objectives in UW and then took UWSA.
6.) Reviewed weak areas and took NBME 7 five days before exam, and Free 131 from USMLE website day before my exam.
DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU, AS LONG AS YOU CAN REMEMBER, UNDERSTAND, AND RECALL THE INFO, THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS.

Exam experience:
- Only had 1 drug ad with 3 questions, super long and super hard. Was in my 7th block of 8 and felt like I got uppercut to my face. But I was thankful it was just one drug ad.
- A lot of immuno. Review FA Step 1 immuno chapter.
- Know how the presentation, management of diagnosis, management of treatment, and pathophysiology of stress, urge, and overflow incontinence.
- Know the rinne and weber tests for conductive and sensineural deafness and know examples of things that can cause the two different types of deafness.
- 40-45% OF MY EXAM FELT LIKE STEP 1 RECALL!
- Know all of the leukemia.s
- Know the childhood bone disorders of congenital hip dysplasia, osgood schlatter, and leg calves perthes disease.
-Know guidelines for PPD & HPV.
- Know all options for contraceptions and in which scenario they are indicated.
- NO BIOCHEM questions on my exam.
- 1 or 2 Chromosome Genetics questions on my exam.
- A LOT of biostat questions with number needed to treat, bias types, and study types.
- Xray differentiations of pneumothorax, from pleural effusion, etc.
- Know the effects of maneuvers on the heart sounds.
- Felt harder than all NBMEs, but felt closest to a mix between UWSA and NBME 7.
- Know risk factors and preventions for major types of cancers such as ovarian, endometrial, lung, thyroid cancers.
- Know the difference between basal cell and squamous cell carcinoma location on the face.
- Know the bone tumors such as osteochondroma and how it looks on xray vs how osteosarcoma looks on xray.
- Know the side effects of ALL drugs of abuse and drugs in the psych chapter of MTB. Lithium, Cocaine, Benzodiazepines, Marijuana etc.
- Know how to manage acute HAV infection, is it supportive care? Immune globulin, or HAV vaccine as a 1st step? (I didn't know this one.)
- Know how to manage aneursym rupture. Do you do immediate surgery or give drugs to decrease blood pressure first? (I put do surgery.)

FOCUS ON THE BEST NEXT STEP, FOR EXAMPLE:
Do you elevate head first or do you put the airway first in a person who has difficulty breathing?
ANSWER: It DEPENDS.
- If person has facial trauma with gurgling sounds? You do cricothrotomy first.
- If a person has aspiration pneumonia then you elevate head first.
There are NOT that many questions that will ask the difference between most accurate vs initial.
So remember you need to know what do you do next from the first thing all the way down to the day the patient gets better and goes home.
In short I recommened:
1.) Use MTB 2 and MTB 3 to help build the skeleton of a foundation which is necessary to build upon.
2.) Do either Rx OR Kaplan qbank before you do UW, IF you have the time. This will orient your mind to the kinds of questions Step 2 CK expects you to know.

3.) IF you have 2-3 months to study or are very low on time, or second qbank is to Focus on UW2 and go through all of it 2-3 times before the exam. Know all of the scenarios and managements in all of the given scenarios. Read ALL explanations even if you get it right and make notes. I felt my exam was very close to the scenarios and concepts of UW.
4.) Do all clinical mastery series and do nbmes to monitor your progress. Save UWSA and NBME 7 for last since they are the closest thing to the exam.
5.) Should probably be listed as number 1, but believe in the work that you've done have faith that the preparation you do will help you get the score that you are shooting for.

OB was my lowest grade perhaps because I have not done OB rotations yet. But I have not done IM or even Surgery rotations either. So it is more than possible to do welll on this exam just from Step 1 and UW2 knowledge.

Best of luck everyone.

Why did you skip FA CK? Did it not suit your learning style, did you not have the time, or did you think it less than useful?
 
IMG graduated in 2014
Time of preparation: 3 1/2 months of dedicated study, 8 hours at day, 6 days per week.
Material used: MTB 2 (3 times), MTB 3 ( 2 times), Conrad 100 ethics case (1 time). UW (3 times) Kaplan q bank (1 time).
Scores:
UW: 60's (First time), final score after 3 times in the 80's.
Kaplan q bank: just one time 59%, diagnostic test 78%, SA 1: 64%, SA 2: 67%
UWSA: 2 months before test: 224.
NBME form 2: 159/184
NBME form 3: 161/184
NBME form 4: 162/184
NBME form 7: 155/182
FRED: 81%

Real score: 228.
 
Sorry if this has already been answered before in here, but for those who took NBME Form 7, how well did it correlate with your score, and or difficulty of questions? I'm hearing from classmates of mine that have already took it that UWSA was closer to their actual score. I took UWSA earlier than I did my NBME, but more scores were similar, so I was just curious. Not that it matters lol, exam is in two days. :scared:
 
Why did you skip FA CK? Did it not suit your learning style, did you not have the time, or did you think it less than useful?

1.) I did not have the time.
2.) I found it less useful than the MTB 2 + MTB 3 combined for the few chapters I did decide to read from in FA Step 2 CK (For example: ob/gyn, peds, cvs, pulmonary).

I always thought people were harsh on FA CK, but I gave it a chance, and it really did not help me in my prep.

In my opinion, FA Step 2 CK is not necessary for doing well in Step 2 CK.
 
I can't correlate the NBME 7 because these are offline, but with the rule of correct questions x 1.50=232, my real score is 228.

I just did the UWSA online and the score was 224, so you can trust in your UWSA.

For the difficulty of the question I feel that they are similar in the real one.

My test has a lot of OB/GYN, ethics, biostatistics and psychiatric questions.

Good luck.
 
I can't correlate the NBME 7 because these are offline, but with the rule of correct questions x 1.50=232, my real score is 228.

I just did the UWSA online and the score was 224, so you can trust in your UWSA.

For the difficulty of the question I feel that they are similar in the real one.

My test has a lot of OB/GYN, ethics, biostatistics and psychiatric questions.

Good luck.

Just took NBME 7 it was pretty rough but reasonable I guess.
Did you take the exam offline? It seems like you did. I don't think you can count this whole offline thing to be accurate. I got 30 incorrect on NBME 7 which is 154/184 (even lower that your corrects) but I ended up scoring in the upper 240s.
 
Just got my step 2 CK score today.
SDN helped me out a lot so I thought I'd return the favor and share my experience

Study strategy: I learn by doing questions, so that's all I did. I also learn passively by seeing patients and picking up on what we did for them, so I tried to see as many patient's as possible during my rotation.

Shelf exam prep/scores (I took them in that order)
Surg - Pestanas and U World (75)
Peds - Pre-test and U World (78)
Medicine - Uworld (81)
Psych - Lange Q&A and U World (83)
Ob/Gyn - U World (87)

I took my test 20 days after I finished all of my third year core rotations. I had the time and wanted to have all of the information fresh in my mind from shelf exams before it got too late.

Step 2 CK:
Study time: 20 days
Study materials: U World only. I had finished it once during my cores (avg 70%), did it once again. I had about 500 questions left before the actual test. Avg (82%). I do all questions in timed, random mode and at the end of the day I do all the incorrect ones again. I read and review all explanations in great detail. That's all I did. No books. Not really a book person.
NBME 3 - 225 (10 days out), don't do this form, its really weird. I hear the other forms are better. I just did it for kicks and giggles.
IM Practice Shelf - 77 (Form 1), 88 (Form 2). My great plan was to do all of them from all the cores, that didn't really end up happening.
Real deal: 251

Walked out of the test thinking I failed. I was making way too many judgement calls on the exam. The questions were really long but vague at the same time. It was really weird. Just trust your gut and your clinical judgement and I guess it will all work out.

Just a tip: I had other friends who have also taken the test around the same time. Biostats and Drug Adds and Medical abstracts are heavily stressed on the test. I had at least 2-3 questions per block. Review that before your test. U world does a good job of preparing you for that.

Good luck to all. If you have specific questions PM me.
 
I am planning to take 2 NBMEs in addition to the UW assessment test ... My test is in 3 weeks
Any suggestions about the what to take and in what sequence ??? looking for both real test question difficulty and pattern simulation and score prediction ?
All input is appreciated ...

THANKS
 
NBME 3 - 225 (10 days out), don't do this form, its really weird. I hear the other forms are better. I just did it for kicks and giggles.
IM Practice Shelf - 77 (Form 1), 88 (Form 2). My great plan was to do all of them from all the cores, that didn't really end up happening.
Real deal: 251

First, congratulations for the great score..

I wanted to ask you if you took UW assessment test.. and if it provided good/bad score correlation to real deal?

thanks
 
First, congratulations for the great score..

I wanted to ask you if you took UW assessment test.. and if it provided good/bad score correlation to real deal?

thanks

I didn't really do the UW self assessment. I have a friend who did and she told me that it was not really like UWorld it was more like the NBME. More like NBME meaning it was more vague than the actual Qbank.
I found UWorld to be a good preparation tool for the test in terms of the material but I felt that it was very different in terms of overall question style compared to the real test.
 
Woof... just got done with the exam. That did not feel very good, as others have stated lots of vague stuff. I will be back once I get my score and throw up my NBME, USWA, and UWorld % for those that are curious. Fingers crossed.
 
nbme 7: 189 :dead:.... (two months out)
nbme 3: 210 (one month out)
nbme 6: 227 (2 weeks out)
UWSA: 242 (1 week out)
nbme 4: 237 (3 days before)






Real Deal: 250!!!

Basically did Uworld twice. First pass, my percentage was 63%. Mainly used Secrets for my last 3 weeks in addition to reviewing my notes and used FA once in a while. I felt like I got absolutely steamrolled during the actual exam so I am speechless to say the least!
:banana:
 
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nbme 7: 189 :dead:.... (two months out)
nbme 3: 210 (one month out)
nbme 6: 227 (2 weeks out)
UWSA: 242 (1 week out)
nbme 4: 237 (3 days before)






Real Deal: 250!!!

Basically did Uworld twice. First pass, my percentage was 63%. Mainly used Secrets for my last 3 weeks in addition to reviewing my notes and used FA once in a while. I felt like I got absolutely steamrolled during the actual exam so I am speechless to say the least!
:banana:
Awesome score!
Question for everyone who took the test [sorry for hijacking, just need some opinions]
with step 1 I found myself focusing on reading more than doing questions: like from pathoma, first aid, firecracker, etc. I still went through all the qbanks but my focus was on hammering down the concepts.
But for step 2 iam doing my question banks [uworld and kaplan] more than actual reading. As an aside, I went through all of uworld during ms3 and took notes. I reset my uworld [I really dont remember the questions which is good] but I essentially do 1 block in the morning [subject based], then spend a solid 3hrs going over each answer and refreshing my memory. The rest of the day is spent reading mtb [or skimming] and looking up each topic on uptodate to make sure I get the most out of the topic/know the guidelines as pholston suggested. As for my averages, they are around 85-90% uworld and roughly low to mid 80s for kaplan [I loose points on crap that is splitting hair/ really nitpicky]. Anyway, am I missing something here? It just feels weird focusing more on the qbank then reading...Like did uworld have most of what you need [85%+ of the tested material]?
Any input would be great!
 
Awesome score!
Question for everyone who took the test [sorry for hijacking, just need some opinions]
with step 1 I found myself focusing on reading more than doing questions: like from pathoma, first aid, firecracker, etc. I still went through all the qbanks but my focus was on hammering down the concepts.
But for step 2 iam doing my question banks [uworld and kaplan] more than actual reading. As an aside, I went through all of uworld during ms3 and took notes. I reset my uworld [I really dont remember the questions which is good] but I essentially do 1 block in the morning [subject based], then spend a solid 3hrs going over each answer and refreshing my memory. The rest of the day is spent reading mtb [or skimming] and looking up each topic on uptodate to make sure I get the most out of the topic/know the guidelines as pholston suggested. As for my averages, they are around 85-90% uworld and roughly low to mid 80s for kaplan [I loose points on crap that is splitting hair/ really nitpicky]. Anyway, am I missing something here? It just feels weird focusing more on the qbank then reading...Like did uworld have most of what you need [85%+ of the tested material]?
Any input would be great!

I felt like I better solidified the material during my 2nd pass of Uworld while taking notes. And yes, I focused more on questions this time around for CK compared to Step 1. For the actual exam, I felt like there were a good number of questions that I didn't really recognize from anywhere (Uworld or books) and ended up just making educated guesses. I felt rushed throughout the entire test, which may have worked in my favor because that didn't allow me time to overanalyze questions and get them wrong? Who knows? :shrug:
 
Just got my step 2 CK score today.
SDN helped me out a lot so I thought I'd return the favor and share my experience

Study strategy: I learn by doing questions, so that's all I did. I also learn passively by seeing patients and picking up on what we did for them, so I tried to see as many patient's as possible during my rotation.

Shelf exam prep/scores (I took them in that order)
Surg - Pestanas and U World (75)
Peds - Pre-test and U World (78)
Medicine - Uworld (81)
Psych - Lange Q&A and U World (83)
Ob/Gyn - U World (87)

I took my test 20 days after I finished all of my third year core rotations. I had the time and wanted to have all of the information fresh in my mind from shelf exams before it got too late.

Step 2 CK:
Study time: 20 days
Study materials: U World only. I had finished it once during my cores (avg 70%), did it once again. I had about 500 questions left before the actual test. Avg (82%). I do all questions in timed, random mode and at the end of the day I do all the incorrect ones again. I read and review all explanations in great detail. That's all I did. No books. Not really a book person.
NBME 3 - 225 (10 days out), don't do this form, its really weird. I hear the other forms are better. I just did it for kicks and giggles.
IM Practice Shelf - 77 (Form 1), 88 (Form 2). My great plan was to do all of them from all the cores, that didn't really end up happening.
Real deal: 251

Walked out of the test thinking I failed. I was making way too many judgement calls on the exam. The questions were really long but vague at the same time. It was really weird. Just trust your gut and your clinical judgement and I guess it will all work out.

Just a tip: I had other friends who have also taken the test around the same time. Biostats and Drug Adds and Medical abstracts are heavily stressed on the test. I had at least 2-3 questions per block. Review that before your test. U world does a good job of preparing you for that.

Good luck to all. If you have specific questions PM me.

when did you sit for the exam?
 
I'm doing the same prep, with 3 weeks to study. Background 260+ Step 1, avg 83 on shelfs. Let's do this.

Good to see some familiar faces from the Step 1 and shelf threads. Congrats to everyone who finished and good luck to everyone waiting for results/studying.
How much score on clinical mastery series is ok for 240+ ?
 
??? You're talking about the shelf NBME's right? I would too much predictive value in those for Step 2. Just good for practice.
I am asking about 50 Qs of Clinical Neurology, Medicine, Obstetrics/Gynecology, Pediatrics, Psychiatry, Surgery 20$ each.
I did surgery and obgyn, didn;t get beyond 74-77 !!
 
I did all 12 forms of clinical mastery series, aside from a couple of questions that were very very very very similar, the rest were just meh for me. In my opinion, neuro forms weren't necessary, as the real deal didn't go into as much detail, and for peds/OBGYN/Psych and even medicine, the real deal was considerably harder. Even for surgery, the topic is just too broad I guess. Most of the questions on the real thing were either really vague or felt like two different presentations mixed together to me, half of the time I was just guessing answers w/o really knowing the diagnosis

But you know what though, UW2, CMS, NBME practice tests are still the best you could do in preparing, I mean what else is there?

Btw just so u know where I'm coming from, I scored in the 260's in step 1, and my UW, UWSA/NBME averages for step 2 were very similar.

Half way through CK I felt so horrible I actually had the thought of just quitting and wanted to just run out of there. @@

Hi, How much score on clinical mastery series you think is safe for CK 240+ ? How would you correlate their score with actual exam ?
 
Hi, How much score on clinical mastery series you think is safe for CK 240+ ? How would you correlate their score with actual exam ?
Any of my classmates/seniors that just got done with CK reported that the CM forms were good to practice questions, and somewhat similar to what was being highly tested on the real deal. I haven't heard from anyone to expect it to be of any value as far as 3 digit score prediction.
 
I am asking about 50 Qs of Clinical Neurology, Medicine, Obstetrics/Gynecology, Pediatrics, Psychiatry, Surgery 20$ each.
I did surgery and obgyn, didn;t get beyond 74-77 !!

Those aren't for predicting Step 2 scores, and there's really no way to correlate them. They're for predicting shelf exam scores, which students take during 3rd year.

If you want a Step 2 diagnostic/predictive exam, take the Comprehensive Clinical Science Self-Assessments, which have forms 7, 6, 4, and 3. These will give you a direct score estimate.
 
Any of my classmates/seniors that just got done with CK reported that the CM forms were good to practice questions, and somewhat similar to what was being highly tested on the real deal. I haven't heard from anyone to expect it to be of any value as far as 3 digit score prediction.
Thanks
 
Those aren't for predicting Step 2 scores, and there's really no way to correlate them. They're for predicting shelf exam scores, which students take during 3rd year.

If you want a Step 2 diagnostic/predictive exam, take the Comprehensive Clinical Science Self-Assessments, which have forms 7, 6, 4, and 3. These will give you a direct score estimate.
Thanks
 
hey guys
those of who have recently taken the test, did you feel like the length of the questions on the real deal correlated with uworld? or were the questions longer?
thanks 🙂
 
hey guys
those of who have recently taken the test, did you feel like the length of the questions on the real deal correlated with uworld? or were the questions longer?
thanks 🙂

Absolutely not.
The real test has questions that are much longer. U world questions, even the long ones, were a quick read and easy to interpret.
To give you an estimate:
I used to be done answering, contemplating, debating, changing my answers, going over things I had doubt about etc for U world with 15 mins to spare. I would usually end all the blocks about 15 mins early.
On the real test, I was done with the first pass of the block with only at the most 10 mins to spare. I would say that my reading speed is above average. I was reading as fast as I possibly could. I would never sit on a question after reading it for any longer than a minute, I would just put down my initial gut, mark it and move on. Still was running short on time.
The NBMEs are also not a good predictor of length. Just go into the test knowing that.
My first block I kinda leisurely answered questions and took my own sweet time and before I knew it, I had 30 mins left and had only answered 18 questions. Time is not your friend on the test.

My strategy after the first block: read fast, answer fast, if you have time contemplate it later.
 
guys my step1 exam within 2 weeks i am going to prepare directly for step2 i have a question do you takes uworld note on a pdf or paper separatly from books or just annotated books?bcz i am seeing that uwolrd is most important for step2 which is not as step1
 
Hello
I need some advice. I am starting to prepare for step 2 CK and wanted to know if it's best to do uworld subject wise, timed like after I read topic?
 
For the folks that already took the test. I have a real quick question.

I did Uworld throughout 3rd year. During "crunch month" I've done 1 pass of Uworld and haven't used any other resource to be honest. I guess technically I've already had 2 passes of Uworld. The last 4 days should I read MTB 2 (IM) and 3 (everything but IM) or should I crank through 2200 uworld questions again? I still feel like I don't have all of uworld down cold.
 
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