USMLE - Official 2015 Step 2 CK Experiences and Scores Thread

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With 2015 right around the corner I think it's a good time to begin a Step 2 CK experiences and scores thread for 2015. Let's keep the all experiences and scores in this thread.

Good luck to everyone taking the exam in 2015!
 
Took it today, just wanted to make a few comments.

1) This was the hardest test I've ever taken (I did extremely well on Step 1). There is a tremendous amount of nuance in each question.

2) The questions were, in my opinion, way beyond what should be expected for an M3/M4 student. They often asked 3rd line drugs or gave some esoteric presentation of something that you could have never prepared for. Even if you knew the answer/presentation, the answer choices would be overly vague and confusing (or they would make it even more complex by turning a fourth order question into a fifth order question).

3) Quality improvement questions are impossible to study for.

4) Question stems are exceedingly long, and given the amount of detail that must be deciphered, the amount of time provided is inadequate.

5) Acid base disorders were extremely difficult (harder than step 1)

6) A tremendous amount of step 1 knowledge is necessary for this exam. Don't be fooled by onlinemeded or other resources saying "you don't need to know this". Had I not gone over pathoma I know I would have gotten quite a few questions wrong.

7) Too many questions asking "what is the most important indication for y", and then they would go on to list 4 indications for it. Pretty bull.

I'm applying derm and got >250 on step 1 so this test grade doesn't matter really for me. That being said, this test is far from fair or reasonable.

Got my score back today. Got >260. Obviously, trust your prep, but all I wanted to say is **** those money-grubbing asshats at the NBME. Can't wait until after I take Step 3 so I never have to give them another cent.
 
Step 1 : 7 months back, 250+
Test in 19 days
done with UWx2
NBME 6 : 256 - 3 weeks back
Plan to do NBMEs and CMS

Do you guys recommend reading ethics books like fischer and khans. I did it for step 1. And any advice for these last 3 weeks?
 
Took test on Monday 9/28. Does that mean I'll be getting my score this coming Wednesday? (it will be the 3rd Wednesday since my test)

Thanks and congrats on all of your amazing scores.
 
Took test on Monday 9/28. Does that mean I'll be getting my score this coming Wednesday? (it will be the 3rd Wednesday since my test)

Thanks and congrats on all of your amazing scores.

I believe it's 4th Wednesday for Mon and Tues test takers. It's the same Wednesday as people who took it on Thurs/Fri of that same week, but it's the 3rd Wednesday for those people.
 
So I just received my score not too long ago and because this thread has helped me so much I wanted to extend my study plan as to how I tackled the USMLE Step 2 CK.

I had 4 weeks to study for this exam (I was just coming off of my surgery rotation, so the first week was kind of shot)...Also, background I honored little over half of my 3rd year clerkships so had a somewhat solid foundation going into USMLE Step 2 CK prep.

Anyway my initial plan was to do DIT (I had success with it for USMLE Step 1, so I said what the hell let me try it again...). Long story short I did not feel like this had enough umph for USMLE Step 2 CK. Either it seemed to basic or I thought the text they went thru was super dry. So I scrapped it and started drafting other options:

Let me pause right here and tell you what really helps... QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS.... I want to echo everyone else when I say that Uworld is a very good resource and I went thru it once throughout the year, and twice during my dedicated study time with my incorrects x 2. Again I am not the most phenomenal test taker so I need the repetition. How did I utilize this resource to its potential?

I made notes on the notes feature of UWorld (this is a very good feature!) as soon as you are done reviewing a block and typing notes on each question, you can generate a PDF of notes from UWORLD which gives you each question number, and everything organized by subject (OB, Psych, Peds, etc.).

This helps a lot because #1 you are not wasting time annotating and #2 UW is doing all the organization by subject and giving you the question number so you can refer to an algorithm again. I consolidated the whole question bank into 30 pages.

What other question sources did I use?
1. Kaplan (I had this idealistic plan that I was going to finish this bank as well, I probably did 40% of it just to get more practice).
2. NBME Subject exams. Remember those practice tests you took before the shelfs? I decided to do them all again, yes this was not conducive to the wallet, but more questions and concepts the better. I took notes on each one as I used the extended time feature which gave me 4 hours to do it (again remember these are all learning tools and not assessment). The lame thing is that there are no answers given, but you can look them up. So again that is 100 questions per subject!
3. NBME Clinical Science exams (essentially practice USMLE Step 2 CK NBMEs): I took all of them and the UWSA
4: 272 (idk how I did this but I missed nine questions, this was my first assessment and I was shocked!).
6: 258 (okay a little bit back to reality...)
7: 229 (**** myself one week before...I knew it was hard going into it from reading on SDN)
UWSA: 235
I made sure that I did not let any of these score fluctuations affect me mentally, I kept focus and now kept organizing and reviewing my notes for UW.

Concurrently here is also what I did for studying:
1. Top Shelf Internal Medicine Course (essentially goes thru Master the Boards Internal Medicine). I used this for my IM shelf so I did the whole course again. I thought this was so helpful as I became more confident about the material, IM being a huge part of the test.
2. Online Med Ed, I did all the subjects that were not IM. These videos are short organized and amazing for the test. It gave me a structured way to review all of the material. I used the notes concurrently.
3. MTB Step 3 Peds and OBGYN. I kept reading that MTB Step 3 would be helpful so I went ahead and did it for these subjects. I think it was an adjunct that helped everything.

Let me know if you guys want my test experience, but all in all test day was long. Questions were hard. I went thru everything with 3-5 minutes per block to review.

FINAL SCORE:
253 🙂

Hope this helps and contact me with any questions!
Hello, first of all it´s very nice from you share this info.
Ok, if a have six (6) weeks full time daily to prepare the S2CK:
1) How much time one should need for each 44 Q block?
2) How many blocks do you think should be done and revised daily?
3) How many hours reading daily?
4) Any other advice from you that you consider important during the preparation?
Thank you very much in advance,
J
 
Step 1 : 7 months back, 250+
Test in 19 days
done with UWx2
NBME 6 : 256 - 3 weeks back
Plan to do NBMEs and CMS

Do you guys recommend reading ethics books like fischer and khans. I did it for step 1. And any advice for these last 3 weeks?

No. I don't have my score back (but my NBME 4 and 6 scores were >255) but I took it recently and had 1-2 ethics questions and they basically boiled down to autonomy and HIPPA questions. Don't waste your time.

Same kind of goes for bio stats. I spent about 2 hours studying that and had I think 4-5Qs on it, one of which was NNT. The others were drug studies and data interpretation.

Uworld is well and truly all you need. If you're getting the ethic questions in there right, you'll get the real ones right too.
 
Hello, first of all it´s very nice from you share this info.
Ok, if a have six (6) weeks full time daily to prepare the S2CK:
1) How much time one should need for each 44 Q block?
2) How many blocks do you think should be done and revised daily?
3) How many hours reading daily?
4) Any other advice from you that you consider important during the preparation?
Thank you very much in advance,
J

1. An hour for answering the questions. Do the same time constraints as the test, esp if you have a hard time with timing

2. I started with 4-5 and worked up to 8 the last few days before my test to build stamina. But I'm insane

3. I spent maybe 1-2 hours looking stuff up or listening to Kaplan videos. The vast majority should be spent doing uworld and learning what's there.

4. DO UWorld, repeatedly if you have time. I used MTB as backup but it was very supplemental. Uworld is the first aid for step 2. Meded is great though and I would highly recommend if you're more of a video person. Some of the videos are old so make sure to peak at the comments for updated info.

I took 3 weeks to study and felt with any longer, I would have started to backslide, with 6 weeks you may burn out so go slower at the start and go more hard core the closer you get to the test.
 
1. An hour for answering the questions. Do the same time constraints as the test, esp if you have a hard time with timing

2. I started with 4-5 and worked up to 8 the last few days before my test to build stamina. But I'm insane

3. I spent maybe 1-2 hours looking stuff up or listening to Kaplan videos. The vast majority should be spent doing uworld and learning what's there.

4. DO UWorld, repeatedly if you have time. I used MTB as backup but it was very supplemental. Uworld is the first aid for step 2. Meded is great though and I would highly recommend if you're more of a video person. Some of the videos are old so make sure to peak at the comments for updated info.

I took 3 weeks to study and felt with any longer, I would have started to backslide, with 6 weeks you may burn out so go slower at the start and go more hard core the closer you get to the test.

Thank you very much for your very complete and useful info.
In the point #1) I tried to ask about the total time for doing and carefully review every 44 Q UW block, I understood 1 hour responding, but how long should it take me to review carefully (average for a standard person)?
Thank you again,
J
 
Thank you very much for your very complete and useful info.
In the point #1) I tried to ask about the total time for doing and carefully review every 44 Q UW block, I understood 1 hour responding, but how long should it take me to review carefully (average for a standard person)?
Thank you again,
J

I'm probably not the best one to answer that, I just read the explanation and moved on, maybe 5mins max for me personally, you may need to pause and look up stuff if it doesn't stick (like I had to re look up RTAs and acid base stuff)
 
right, so for me is around 3-4 min p/question which means around 2 hr needed to review an already answered test so would be around 2.5 and 3 hr in total to finish a 44 UW question block, again, thank you very much; any other comment is always very welcome, J
 
I have about ~3 weeks of study time to study for CK. My step 1 was 240+ with the Uworld, FA, Pathoma, DIT combo. Definitely trying to not over-resource myself again because while I'm happy with my step 1 score, I often felt disorganized and cluttered with resources during studying. From this thread, I'm getting the impression that many people felt Uworld alone (with Up to date or Step up to Medicine available as reference only as needed) was sufficient - my question is less about what resources to use but rather how to use Uworld in terms of taking notes? I don't want to use the notes feature within Uworld and prefer either typing a list of notes, flashcards, or handwriting notes. For step 1, I annotated directly into FA but since I'm not planning on using FA during step 2 prep, I was curious how people approached note taking from Uworld when this was their sole/primary resource, and when they have at/a little less than 3 weeks to study?

I have myself scheduled to do about 3 blocks of 44q/ day, random and timed. I also want to be able to review these 3 blocks in that same day with notes, and feel like I'm walking that fine line between wanting to take enough notes that it's helpful for me to use as a review tool but also not spend so much time taking notes that I don't have time for questions or I lapse into straight up just writing everything down, since that is sometimes "easier" than taking concise, thoughtful notes.
 
Hello again, I have a very important question for you:
Despite all the changes recently USMLE made in the Step 2 CK do you think doing repeatedly, deeply and consistently UWorld questions is enough to get a good score or al least pass the S2CK, can I trust in the current UW material for the new S2CK?
Thank you in advance,
J
 
God I have about a week to study for this thing. I'll be lucky if I can get through even half of UW (2150 questions to go!). Wonder if you can do well without finishing this bank (and not being one of those shelf monsters during 3rd year; I certainly was not).
 
God I have about a week to study for this thing. I'll be lucky if I can get through even half of UW (2150 questions to go!). Wonder if you can do well without finishing this bank (and not being one of those shelf monsters during 3rd year; I certainly was not).

Hey I'm close to a similar situation but haven't figured it out yet. I hear it's about 2-3 hours to review a block of 44 after a timed random session but not sure if that's quicker on tutor.

How are you trying to do it now? e.g. randomly or subject? By tutor to read the explanation right then? Or timed to read after? How many blocks are you trying to get through in a day for the week? I think UW's total is ~2259, so in 7 days of half of that, is about 161 questions a day (about 4 blocks).

Obviously, books are not going to be the best here but I hope it works out for you. Make sure to get some good sleep each night because you'll need it to process all that info! Good luck and hopefully some answers from others with some experience on this, will arrive to guide a plan to consider!
 
Hey I'm close to a similar situation but haven't figured it out yet. I hear it's about 2-3 hours to review a block of 44 after a timed random session but not sure if that's quicker on tutor.

How are you trying to do it now? e.g. randomly or subject? By tutor to read the explanation right then? Or timed to read after? How many blocks are you trying to get through in a day for the week? I think UW's total is ~2259, so in 7 days of half of that, is about 161 questions a day (about 4 blocks).

Obviously, books are not going to be the best here but I hope it works out for you. Make sure to get some good sleep each night because you'll need it to process all that info! Good luck and hopefully some answers from others with some experience on this, will arrive to guide a plan to consider!

Hey glad to see there are others with the same kind of situation. I've briefly thought about the things you mentioned (like estimating how much is needed to complete everything). Today I got through 2 blocks of 44 and another block of 22 and it was pretty tiring. I would estimate it takes 3-4 hours for a full block if I'm reading everything carefully and 2-3 hours otherwise. I don't know how feasible is to do 4 blocks/day unless I just review incorrects and mostly ignore the correct ones, but even then it's not going to be easy. I can't sit and focus for long periods like I used to. Doing tutor mode and randomly.

I've given up on the idea of reading any book. It would be nice and that was my original plan but now I just don't have the time. I also don't have the full availability of the next few days as I'm going on a few interviews. At least after this is done with I have one thing less to stress about!

Definitely agree with you on getting good sleep. Lately I've been sleeping pretty late and it hasn't been doing any favors for my eyes staring at the monitor all day.
 
Took test Monday 9/28, permit is gone now. Perhaps I will actually get it back tomorrow... ? Isn't this usually a sign that it's coming ?
 
If I am averaging 70-75% on UW thus far. About halfway through IM. Is that good enough to pass? I have not taken a practice test yet. My time got cut in half so I am trying to make the best out of it. Thanks.

Yes, I'd say so.

I'd avoid NMBE 7 if you have limited time and need to prioritize practice tests. Even with knowing how it vastly underpredicts, it still shook my confidence a lot. My score was an average between my NBME 6 and 4. My test was most like NBME 4 in terms of style.
 
Yes, I'd say so.

I'd avoid NMBE 7 if you have limited time and need to prioritize practice tests. Even with knowing how it vastly underpredicts, it still shook my confidence a lot. My score was an average between my NBME 6 and 4. My test was most like NBME 4 in terms of style.
Thanks. I plan on getting 2 or 3 practice tests in and did plan on missing 7 since I need all the good feelings I can get.

I need a good review for biostats. I am horrible in that area.
 
Questions peoples: How long does it take for Step 2 score post on ERAS? Got my score today and I would like to release it to all the programs ASAP but when I look on ERAS it only shows that Step 1 scores have been received/sent
 
Questions peoples: How long does it take for Step 2 score post on ERAS? Got my score today and I would like to release it to all the programs ASAP but when I look on ERAS it only shows that Step 1 scores have been received/sent

When I updated my USMLE transcript around Sep 16th, my Step 2 CK score was received/sent on ERAS within 10 mins. I also hit the update button around 2pm, so that may have been why. If you just hit the "resend my scores" button this evening, it should be updated by tomorrow or Friday I'm assuming?
 
When I updated my USMLE transcript around Sep 16th, my Step 2 CK score was received/sent on ERAS within 10 mins. I also hit the update button around 2pm, so that may have been why. If you just hit the "resend my scores" button this evening, it should be updated by tomorrow or Friday I'm assuming?

Ah - did that. It wasn't clear to me what to do because it seemed like the score would appear on ERAS and then I would release it to the programs. But I clicked the re-send button and I see it says something like "requesting NBME transmit your scores to programs" so that seems like it was the correct action. Thanks!
 
Can anyone shed some light on how the Step 2 CK questions on the real test compare to the ones in UWorld?
In my opinion, the real questions were longer. I remember some of the paragraphs being 10-12 lines long from screen edge to screen edge. I also was finishing UW blocks with 10-20 minutes to spare, and I usually had 5-10 minutes at best when I finished the real CK blocks.

The other thing was real CK questions are more vague often having far less classic sign/sx than the UW questions.
 
Can anyone shed some light on how the Step 2 CK questions on the real test compare to the ones in UWorld?

My questions were short, like UWorld, with just a few long ones (including labs) in each block. I would describe my test as "extremely vague UWorld." Imagine all the UWorld questions that are vaguely worded or the answer choices are all very similar or are all potential choices with just one BEST answer. That was my test. Like 90% of the time I knew what was going on, I just wasn't very sure of most of my answers because I narrowed it down to 2 things and went with my gut.
 
Just took it today . All in all very manageable test. I thought it was easier then most shelf exams . Questions for me were quite short , nothing any longer then what you see on uworld. Mostly medicine Queations with a good amount of trauma and post op qs. I usually had 20 minutes to spare on the thing. Lots of questions that you have to "go off your gut " for , that only comes from doings a lot of questions and paying attention on the wards ... A lot of it is reasonably my through what is the most common sense. I will say that the psych questions were super ambiguous and might have been the hardest on the thing ( and I'm good at psych ). All I did was uworld during third year and repeat during 3 weeks dedicated with wrongs . I think the thing that helped me was studying really hard for all my shelf exams - that's what makes the test a lot easier
 
My questions were easily 2x as long as Uworld. Definitely agree with how vague the test is. It was a **** show of ..."yep I know exactly whats going on here...." to by the 10th sentence "what the hell, this can now be two things" , and then to "what do ya know, both are answer choices, awesome."
 
My questions were easily 2x as long as Uworld. Definitely agree with how vague the test is. It was a **** show of ..."yep I know exactly whats going on here...." to by the 10th sentence "what the hell, this can now be two things" , and then to "what do ya know, both are answer choices, awesome."

This is what made the 3 week wait so agonizing. I felt like I was only sure of maybe 10% of my answers, everything else was going with my gut. Very very few "WTF" questions, like 0-1 per block. I still ended up with a score I was happy with, but it was one of those tests where you feel like you either failed or did ok.
 
Has anyone used Kaplan CK qbank or heard some feedback of it? I'm couple months away from my exam. I started this qbank and try to save uworld to a more closer time. Questions there are so frustrated, stuff never seen in any book...
 
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Thanks for the responses, Ismet, DarwinianGuru, and AndreasVesalius. Btw, when did all of you the exam?

I took it in late September. And for some of the posts above, I too felt really crappy after walking out. I ended up getting a decent score, although it didn't quite match some of my practice tests. Definitely trust your prep.
 
My question though as I've developed a study plan is: do people just go into UW without having reviewed much? That's such a different mentality than step 1 studying where at least most people had gone through FA once before tackling UW. For those that pretty much used UW as the sole source, did you get absolutely destroyed on first pass? I know UW is for learning and the score can be misleading blah blah blah, but not having an outline of material like FA it just seems like a game of chance.
 
Ill make this short. Used the same three resources throughout all of third year and for boards. Just like the trinity for step 1 ( Pathoma, FA , Uworld) I believe this is the trinity for clinical/ step II. Scored honors on every shelf ,>80. And ended up with a 264 on step II ck. Technically I also did USMLE rx but it was of minimal if any help and FA for boards and wards , which is worth a quick read especially for OB and peds but these are the resources I spent >90% of my study time on.

MTB 3 – Thought it was way more straight forward than its step II counter part but really either book or FA will do. Didn’t help that much but probably got a few Qs and covers a good breadth of information.

Online Med Ed – This resource is just coming into itself but its amazing. After burning through just about every resource for clinicals and hating them for overcomplicating or just plain wasting my time with unnecessary words that didn’t aid in my understanding of medicine , sorry case files, I found this. Its not just for exams but on the wards as well. Admittedly it's IM and surgery sections are it’s best but even the other sections are pretty good. If I had to do just two resources it would be OnlineMedEd and Uworld. He teaches you real medicine not just how to answer Qs but in turn you learn to think like a doctor when you get a Q you haven’t seen before. If you need to find it just good OnlineMedEd.

Uworld – Of course we all know this is a must but I feel a lot of people use this incorrectly. I know because I was one of those people. Uworld is NOT a Question bank it’s a USMLE text book in question form. Read everything, highlight then reread over and over. Don’t skip anything, don’t assume because the Q was easy you shouldn’t go over it. Infact a number of Qs on my test were one step further from a Uworld Q that you would only know from reading the answers in detail. Don’t redo the Qs just to redo them. Once again it’s NOT ABOUT THE Qs, its about the information. Treat it right and it will treat you right however without the above resources you’ll be too lost on the big picture to learn the nuances in each Q that will make the difference on the exam, or atleast waste a lot of time before you do. Onlinemeded unlocks Uworld so rather than learning why they are doing an echo your learning what exactly is it about this disease that separates it from every other heart disease you do an echo for.

MCAT – 27 – For all those aspiring MDs who didn’t do well on this.

Step 1 – 250+

NBME 4 – 225 ( Before spending 4 hrs /day doing 1 uworld block/day for my entire peds rotation.

NBME 6 – 263 – With about 4 blocks of U world left and five weeks from my exam

NBME – 7 – 254 – three weeks out

NBME 3 – 263 – 10 days out

Uworld Self Assesment- 261 – 10 days out

Step II CK - 264

Listing your MCAT here made me laugh for some reason. I'm not sure why. Congrats on all your scores
 
Worst-written exam I've ever encountered. The NBME is grossly incompetent. There was one biostats question that didn't even have a correct answer choice (believe me - I know how to calculate sensitivity, specificity, PPV, and NPV).
 
@Everyone

I need some suggestion about step1 as you all have crossed step1 and ck by this time.... I am studying for step1 but also solving multiple step2 ck q bank qs and also referring step 2 ck notes....I am not at all neglecting step1 material and q banks...

Do you think will step 2 ck knowledge make someone, more comfortable to face step1 real exam qs? Thank you all for your time
 
@Everyone

I need some suggestion about step1 as you all have crossed step1 and ck by this time.... I am studying for step1 but also solving multiple step2 ck q bank qs and also referring step 2 ck notes....I am not at all neglecting step1 material and q banks...

Do you think will step 2 ck knowledge make someone, more comfortable to face step1 real exam qs? Thank you all for your time

Yes, but then again, so does having a PhD in Microbiology. Unless you have two or more months to study for Step 1, you shouldn't be using Step 2 material.
 
@Everyone

I need some suggestion about step1...yes you are correct, it is regarding step1. I am studying for step1 but also solving multiple step2 ck q bank qs and also referring step 2 ck notes....I am not at all neglecting step1 material and q banks...

Do you think will step 2 ck knowledge make someone, more comfortable to face step1 real exam qs?

I do. I felt 30% of my test came from stuff I did not know until I got to Step 2 material.

I was like, "oh that is where they got that material from". Not everyone had my experience but that is my opinion.

Why I used MTB 3 more than 2 along with SUTM.
 
Yes, but then again, so does having a PhD in Microbiology. Unless you have two or more months to study for Step 1, you shouldn't be using Step 2 material.

Yes, I have up to 5 months to take step1...thanks

I do. I felt 30% of my test came from stuff I did not know until I got to Step 2 material.

I was like, "oh that is where they got that material from". Not everyone had my experience but that is my opinion.

Why I used MTB 3 more than 2 along with SUTM.

Thanks for reply...For me some step1 concepts looks relatively easy after knowing some ck material...hopefully this strategy can make me more comfortable dealing with step1 qs..
 
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