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Probably been discussed before, but can't find a recent thread....

I'm just curious about what scores people were getting on USMLE World, and then how you ended up doing on Step 2.

All you have to do is post two numbers...... 🙂

Thanks folks, and good luck with everything!!
 
Look at the NBME score report for form 2. Where exactly did you go wrong? Burnout is a garbage excuse imo. Just focus on those weak points, review whichever primary source you used, you will retain better what you read the last 2 weeks before the exam than any other material. So if you used MTB re-read that quickly focusing on your weak points as dictated by form 2, if you did UWORLD read your incorrects/notes etc. Basically take a systematic approach now.
 
Just took the exam today. Just wanted to say that it is so similar to taking the shelf, doing Uworld questions at home, NBME practice exams etc that it isn't even funny. I don't understand when people say the questions are different or longer or whatever. It really felt like I was doing questions much longer than I normally do and while wearing pants.
 
thanks DRK I will re-read my uworld notes by system I guess. Should I take another nbme or UWSA or neither?
 
You could take an NBME or the UWSA. From my research people have correlated their scores most closely with NBME 4 or UWSA. Which is great since you did better on 4. I'm personally saving UWSA for 4-5 days before my exam which is in 15 days. We actually have the exact same NBME scores except I took NBME 2 first, same score as you, then NBME 4 2 weeks later and same score as you again. But either way both scores are solid and I think with some polishing up you should be looking at a 240+ easily for the real thing if NBME correlation can be trusted.
 
Thanks 🙂 makes me feel better...exam in 7 days and nbme 4 is just 206!!
Will take uwsa in 2 days and see how that goes.
 
For me first pass was my first time through it, throughout third year rotations. Not sure if that's what everyone else means by it.

This is what I mean as well on first pass. Questions throughout MS3.

Also, received a PM about prevalence of heart sounds and EKGs on Step 2. I'll post it here for anyone else that wants to know.

A little bit of heart sounds (maybe 3-5 questions), but the story correlates pretty well with whatever disease process they're going for. EKG wasn't too bad either, maybe 3-5 questions, same thing with knowing what diagnosis the person has before the EKG (pulse of 120, irregularly irregular, then the EKG shows A-fib)
 
So just took the exam yesterday. Figured with all the help this board has given me, least I could do is give back.
First pass UWorld (including throughout the year while I was studying for shelves) = 64%.
Didn't do a full second pass, instead re-did the problem questions (ones I either missed or had marked b/c I wasn't 100% confident in my answer), ranging around 70-80% on most question sets.
When I was finishing my first pass of UWorld (probably aruond 500-700 IM questions) I did them on timed tutor with all subjects.
Second pass (for the review) was timed 44 question blocks with re-review at the end. I also took notes on any information within the question or the other answer choices that I thought I should know. Ended up being about 17-18 pages of typed one to two line notes.

Sources used:
UWorld (obviously)
MTB 2 (taking notes on anything I didn't already know, turned out to be about 25-30 pages of handwritten one to two liners)
MTB 3 NON-IM (every section besides IM, including derm, tox, etc. etc.; no notes taken here)
Top 200 Diagnostic Test Questions You Need to Know For Step 2 (Conrad Fischer Flashcards)

Step I - 224
School-sponsored mock Step 2 (4 blocks, without exact scoring, prior to dedicated 4 week studying period) - 220s
UWSA (3 weeks into studying, ~ 1 week before test): 245
Didn't take any NBMEs as I didn't want to be demoralized by a crappy score.

Test Day:
Usual waiting period, usual GED takers behind me clacking away on her keyboard like she was typing a book. Anyways, on to the actual test.
41-45 question blocks x 8.
Content wise I'm going to be a bit biased. Consider the fact there are 320+ questions, and that the ones I feel like there was more of was because they are not my strong points.
Things that were on it MORE than I expected:
Ophtho (where analyzing a fundoscopic image is key to diagnosis),
Pediatrics (both Neonate/Infantile AND middle-aged [10-15 w/o being solely GYN issues]),
OB/GYN,
Pulmonary,
Management/Pattern "Does this disease get cured completely or will it temporarily cure and then relapse?"

Things that were on it LESS than I expected:
Trauma (and Surgery),
Cardiovascular Dz,
Pure unadulterated Diagnosis (not "what is the next step in management", but "What is the most likely diagnosis")

Can't make a definitive comment about other ones.

Most frustrating portions of the test: I read the vignette and I know the diagnosis and the next step before I even read the answer choices. Get to the answer choices, and they have the 2nd through 5th step (and I don't remember exactly in what order those next 4 steps go in).
Also, standard things like you know the diagnosis, but they use some other term for it that you've never heard of before, so you have to use process of elimination on all the diagnoses you know to understand what it is (never knew what hematocolpos was until I took the exam and selected it as an answer choice).
Another thing - They had these ridiculous questions about how some nurse or physician makes some minor mistake (not procedural, but like failing to follow up on a lab) and the question asks what could be done in the future to make sure things don't happen again. Definitely thought there were 2 or 3 valid answers for each of those questions (only like 4-5 on the entire exam).

There were also times that you had an exceedingly clear clinical diagnosis, but they asked you what the next step in diagnosis would be. Sometimes they had the "no further diagnosis needed" option, but often times it was picking between one of the two things that would have anything to do with the original disease process at all.

A good amount of biostats, but as long as you know sensitivity/specificity/PPV/NPV and the definitions to all of those words, you'll do fine. Some of the "what's wrong with this study" stuff was a little tricky.
I had 2-3 drug adds (only 1 page each thankfully) and 2-3 abstracts with 2-3 questions per abstract. Not too bad. One of the drug adds dealt with an herbal supplement, which had it's own wack study conducted, and wasn't confirmed by the FDA. Not sure if I was just supposed to throw out the entire study when the patient asks if it is good for him.

Glad to be done and get on with my research year. Googled some of the questions I can remember that I wasn't sure on, and so far doing well in that category. The worst feeling in the world is when you're answering a 2-parter that has to be answered one step at a time, and you see you've missed the first part during the exam b/c the 2nd question went a different direction than what you were thinking.

Breaks - While studying I was routinely drinking/snacking on something, which is obviously super duper illegal during the actual test. I took a break after every single section for ~ 5 minutes, just to get a glass of water, some sips of coffee (I took 4 of those cappucino bottles you'd get from starbucks, and drank half of one after every section), a granola bar if I needed it. I ate a decent sized breakfast and didn't have an actual lunch (just sugary cappuccino and granola bars).

Glad to be done, waiting for my score now, and good luck to everyone.

PS - About 4-6 weeks for the score report to come back, right?

Thank you for your contribution to this thread! Very helpful to hear the feedback!
 
Got my score back this week, thought I'd chime in with my thoughts.

Study time:
4 weeks
6-7 days per week
3-4 hours per day on average (some days more, some less)

Resources used:
UWORLD (most highly recommended resource). I went through about 2.5 times, very quickly on each question (~30 seconds), but I realize this strategy probably won't work for everyone. 62% on first pass, non-timed tutor mode by subject. ~80% on second pass, again non-timed tutor mode by subject. After my second pass, I did every remaining incorrect question until I got it right, making a word document of important factoids or one-word associations that I wanted to remember. I looked over that document a few times in the days before my exam.

MTB2. I skimmed through this, paying closer attention to some of the trickier treatment algorithms (how to handle different PPD reactivity, for example). This was a pretty good book, but I'm not sure how much it helped. UWORLD was much better.

First Aid Step 2CK: I mostly looked at the clinical images in the back of this, and looked over their rapid review one-word associations. Again, not sure how helpful that was. If you're pressed for time, I'd recommend maximizing UWORLD.

Step 1: ~240

Step 2: ~250

All in all, extremely satisfied. Good luck everyone!
 
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Any tricks to get good sleep (~7h) night before/few nights leading into CK? Seems to be a problem for me.

Improve your sleep hygiene or try zolpidem (depending on if you have problems with sleep latency)....at least that's what the test writers would tell you.:laugh:
 
Took it this past week.

2.5 weeks of study time
NBME 4 (beginning): 268
UWSA (1 week out): 263
Shelf Scores: mid 80s

Used UWorld, Kaplan QBook, MKSAP

Had lots of OB/GYN (like 25% of the test). Stems were significantly longer than UWorld and didn't have many answers that I was 100% sure of. Will update when scores come back.
 
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I can't believe 14-3-3 protein was a choice

Pretty standard way for the NBME to ask about a diagnosis of CJD. Hopefully you were able to eliminate the other answer choices based on the vignette. I had to pick multiple answers that I didn't know the definitions to during the test.
 
the following graphs have been updated in Usmle correlation results table of this poll

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How does everyone prepare for the drug ad and clinical investigation questions on the exam? I'm guessing there aren't any practice questions in uworld? Are there any practice questions anywhere for those?
 
How does everyone prepare for the drug ad and clinical investigation questions on the exam? I'm guessing there aren't any practice questions in uworld? Are there any practice questions anywhere for those?

There are a few practice drug ads in UWorld. The drug ad questions on my actual test were all fairly easy and straightforward. They often require you to feel comfortable interpreting graphs and statistics (a favorite is confidence intervals and statistical significance) so reviewing biostats alongside doing a few practice Qs in UWorld should be more than sufficient
 
There are a few practice drug ads in UWorld. The drug ad questions on my actual test were all fairly easy and straightforward. They often require you to feel comfortable interpreting graphs and statistics (a favorite is confidence intervals and statistical significance) so reviewing biostats alongside doing a few practice Qs in UWorld should be more than sufficient

this was my experience as well
 
Took exam on 27 June ,got results today
step 1 256

Did master the boards 2 + 3 and Uworld 2x

Uworld score :83 % subject wise ,timed ,first time
UWSA : 265/800

Step 2 CK score : 275😍
 
Step 1: 262
School-sponsored NBME diagnostic about 4 weeks prior to step 2: 262
UWSA about 1 week prior to step 2: 272
NBME 4 a couple days prior to step 2: 262
Real step 2 (6/24): 272

Study materials: various review books during the year for shelf exams (case files, first aid, etc), and a bootlegged 2010 version of First Aid for Step 2 during 3 wks of dedicated studying. My shelf exam scores vary from 82 to 88. I used USMLE World all throughout the year, and then reset it and repeated all the OB/Gyn and Peds questions (my weaker areas according to the diagnostic). I was surprised with the perceived difficulty of the real test, and I'm surprised and very happy with my score. I took a chance taking it early, given my high step 1 score, and just didn't want to show any downward trend. I'm a DO and applying allopathic EM.

Good luck everyone!
 
Took exam 7/5, got scores back today. DO student. Had ~3 weeks of dedicated study time between end of year school exams and starting an ER rotation.

Step 1 - 253
UWSA - 242 before studying for a baseline
Did not have time for NBME exams
DIT, MTB 2 and Boards & Wards
Uworld - 73% overall, >80% last 20 sets of 46, random and timed.

Felt like crap coming out of step 2, so I was glad to see it is the norm. Stems were long and I struggled to find time to review marked questions. Felt material was equally tested (especially compared to COMLEX - had only 2 heme/onc questions 2 renal questions).

Step 2 - 258! Off to go celebrate 🙂 -- good luck to all those who have yet to sit for the exam, and those still anxiously awaiting their scores!
 
Step 1: 237
NBME diagnostic from school 4 weeks out: 203
NBME #4 1 week out: 237
Real Step 2: 257

I'll harp what others have said about uworld being the key, and then get another text that fits your style. I did uworld throughout the year for shelves, then reset and did all the questions again before the test. Everyone here seems to love MTB but I already had all my notes from a years worth of studying annotated into my Step up to Medicine text, so I stuck with that. Also used secrets which I loved, definitely got a few questions right because of it. The MKSAP book are also outstanding, and I would definitely recommend either 4 or 5 if you have the time to do them on top of uworld. DO applying allopathic anesthesia.

Felt OK coming out of the test, there we only 1-2 questions on the test that I was clueless on. But there did feel like a TON that I could get down to 2 answers, and then had to randomly guess from those two.

Thanks to everyone that came before me and contributed to this thread (it helped me a ton), and good luck to everyone in the future!
 
Step 1: 262
School-sponsored NBME diagnostic about 4 weeks prior to step 2: 262
UWSA about 1 week prior to step 2: 272
NBME 4 a couple days prior to step 2: 262
Real step 2 (6/24): 272

Study materials: various review books during the year for shelf exams (case files, first aid, etc), and a bootlegged 2010 version of First Aid for Step 2 during 3 wks of dedicated studying. My shelf exam scores vary from 82 to 88. I used USMLE World all throughout the year, and then reset it and repeated all the OB/Gyn and Peds questions (my weaker areas according to the diagnostic). I was surprised with the perceived difficulty of the real test, and I'm surprised and very happy with my score. I took a chance taking it early, given my high step 1 score, and just didn't want to show any downward trend. I'm a DO and applying allopathic EM.

Good luck everyone!

Nice work! Question: I thought UWSA caps out at 265 so did you mean 262?
 
Nice work! Question: I thought UWSA caps out at 265 so did you mean 262?

No i must have reversed the UWSA and the NBME then. I thought I remembered the last practice test being lower than the one before it, though. I know I got a 27-something on one and a 26-something on the other.
 
I usually don't write on forums but I want other average students to get inspiration from my story.
Background:
I am a below average student with very low score-196(yes you read it right) on step1. After studying my arse off for step1, I ended up getting miserable score. At that moment I realized that my approach regarding board exams was not correct. So for Ck I used different strategy.

Study material:
MTB-2 most beneficial book in my opinion. I studied only IM part from it
UW: Completed 100% twice, tutor mode, untimed. Content is good but question style is nothing like real exam
Kaplan Qbank: finished about 800 question. I would advice doing it if you have time. Questions style was similar to real exam
Kaplan Books:Very important source for Obgy, ped, preventive med(one of most imp subject in exam),surgery

Self assessments:
NBME2: After finishing 1st round of UW and superficial reading of MTB2: 300/183 (april 4th)
I was stressed out by this score on NBME. I realized that I was taking shortcut by using just MTB2 so I decided to add kaplan notes for ob-gy,ped,surgery
I also noted that UW keeps repeating same concepts in their Qbank so I started going through kaplan qbank.

NBME4: After 2nd round of UW, Kaplan qbank, Mtb2, kaplan books : 490/235(may 19th)



Exam day(june 24th):
First of all I would like to assure that question length and difficulty aren't any different than NBME self assessment exams or UW. Students on this forum who claim they had longest/toughest questions in exam and had to guess 50% of answers and then end up getting 260s are masochistic. Plz don't pay attention to them.

My Rule no1: Never guess an answer. Dont choose an answer till you can justify it. Getting a question right is more important than finishing the block on time
Rule no2:

Lab/radio>Clinical presentation>personal history>family history


1st block: Ran out of time not because questions were long but I was slow in reading(exam started at 6.45 in morning). I had 5 mins to answer last 7 questions. I missed last 2 questions.
Took a break after first block and started to make a strategy to deal with next block.

Block 2: Ran out of time again. Only had 7 mins to answer 9 questions but this time I was prepared for this situation. Here is what I did. I started going to questions without selecting an answer. I went through 9 questions in 9 seconds. Then I answered short questions(<10 lines) first. After that I had 3 mins to answer 3 questions which is not too bad. I used same strategy in rest of blocks and I was able to finish all blocks on time afterwards.
Block 7 was hardest for me
Last block was easy


Real Deal: 252 (July 24th). All the best. If I can do it then anyone can do it
 
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Just got my score back today:
- IMG
- Step 1: 263
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- Time of prep: 2 months dedicated.
- Materials used: DIT (pure gold!), SU2, FA2013, USMLEWORLD (another gold mine)
- UWORLD timed-tutor, first pass: 85%
- NMBE 6 (1 week out): 690/277
- NMBE 4 (5 days out): 680/ 275
- UWSA: 800/265

Real deal: 270.

Pretty happy. 🙂 Hope this might help get at least some interviews in GS categorical :xf:
 
Got my score today as well.

Step 1 - 262
NBME 6 (3 days before) - 283
UWSA (2 days before) - 265
NBME 4 (1 day before) - 279
Step 2 - 276

Prep: Really my studying was learning everything well during my 3rd year clerkships. I had a year-long uworld subscription, which I used to study for the rotation I was on, and that helped me finish 2 full passes before my final 3rd year clerkship. I also used case files and pretest for most blocks during each rotation, but never used any of the step review books like step up 2 medicine or MTB or whatever those other things people talk about. I did a 3rd pass of uworld during my final rotation and took step 2 4 days after my last shelf exam. Raw scores on the shelves were all 94-99, so I felt pretty confident taking it early. Bottom line, if you're doing well on the shelves and learning everything adequately the first time, you don't really need any dedicated study time or shelf-specific resources.
 
Hello everyone.

I took my exam on july 4th and got my result today. I Failed with a 200.

I am an IMG and i studied for like 6 months. I did Uworld 1.5 times and took USWA 2 days before my exam and got 510/221. I dont know where i went wrong and what to do.

This is crazy... For me to have even a remote chance of getting into residency like family med i need like 250+ on step 2 ck.

My question is i need help regarding where i should start from.. This is very depressing to be honest.

Any input is grately appreciated.
 
Got my score today as well.

Step 1 - 262
NBME 6 (3 days before) - 283
UWSA (2 days before) - 265
NBME 4 (1 day before) - 279
Step 2 - 276

Prep: Really my studying was learning everything well during my 3rd year clerkships. I had a year-long uworld subscription, which I used to study for the rotation I was on, and that helped me finish 2 full passes before my final 3rd year clerkship. I also used case files and pretest for most blocks during each rotation, but never used any of the step review books like step up 2 medicine or MTB or whatever those other things people talk about. I did a 3rd pass of uworld during my final rotation and took step 2 4 days after my last shelf exam. Raw scores on the shelves were all 94-99, so I felt pretty confident taking it early. Bottom line, if you're doing well on the shelves and learning everything adequately the first time, you don't really need any dedicated study time or shelf-specific resources.

Great work Bbon! What were your UWorld averages going through?
 
Hello everyone.

I took my exam on july 4th and got my result today. I Failed with a 200.

I am an IMG and i studied for like 6 months. I did Uworld 1.5 times and took USWA 2 days before my exam and got 510/221. I dont know where i went wrong and what to do.

This is crazy... For me to have even a remote chance of getting into residency like family med i need like 250+ on step 2 ck.

My question is i need help regarding where i should start from.. This is very depressing to be honest.

Any input is grately appreciated.

Jeez, that was a passing score up till a few weeks ago. Sorry to hear that.

What was your Step 1 score, and did you just take it? And what was your UW %?

I think a concise prep is a better option, unlike Step 1. I think the highest yield thing you can do for CK (aside from crushing shelfs) is a rapid review of one resource and then just drilling UW until you reach a respectable average. At that point it's safe to take the exam.
 
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Thanks for your reply CDI.
I took my Step 1 last year and got 225. honestly i had not studied as much as i did for step 2.
My UW % was in low 60% but i took it timed,tutor ,subject wise mode.
How would u approach this exam if u were in my place and i would never wish that on anyone.
thanks again.
 
Step 1: 261
Step 2: 265
Bench: 325

Shelves Average 88%
Uworld First Pass 73%
Uworld Second Pass 93%

Mental Marathon. I had a weird distribution of questions for my knowledge. The first 4 blocks I felt like a champ and felt like I knew every answer. Then in the afternoon the NBME beat my ass. From purely anecdotal evidence, most of my friends really stayed the same or moved up slightly on step 2. I spent 5 of my 13 months of my 3rd year on surgery and ortho rotations and still had enough time to cover my medicine knowledge.

As been stated repeatedly. Keep studying in your 3rd year for your shelves. I did my first pass of Uworld over my 3rd year then 2nd pass the month before my USMLE. I think for shelves, case files and uworld were more than enough for me to do well. Obviously use other sources during the wards ex: uptodate for medicine, surgical recall for surgery, etc.
-> 4 weeks before my USMLE: Step up to step 2, DIT, Uworld 2nd pass.

Good luck to the rest of you waiting anxiously for your results. Fortunately for us, med school testing can be put behind us while we all rise up to the challenge to match into our residency of choice.
 
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