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Since i have received quite a few PMs about USN. So, I'd like to answer to all of you in this thread. I'll borrow the questions from someone that PM me to post the answers here.



I'm a USN applicant this year. I was wondering if you could answer some questions for me?

Sure i can.
The first is I heard that the summer between P1 and P2 you go through 6 weeks of rotations and then you have a two month break...is this accurate?

Yes and Maybe. Yes because you have to do a community pharmacy rotation for 6 weeks during summer between P1 and P2. "Maybe" because you would have 1 and 1/2 month off if you don't have summer school. Some people have summer schools (because they failed during the school year), so they have NO break literally😱 .

Is every other weekend a 3-day weekend? When does your first year begin/end? When do you graduate?

First year begins in the end of August and ends at May. Graduation is always in June. Like me, i started in August 2004, so i will be grad in June 2007.


When do you have vacations?
Vacation is like NOW. XMAS, thanksgiving, new year's day, and maybe the weekend of the exam (if you don't fail...)If you don't pass an exam, can you retake it until you pass?

Yes, exams are given every other Friday and if you don't pass, you'll have a second chance on the following Monday. But keep in mind that the exam on Monday won't be the same as the one on friday (if it is, then who will study anymore rite?). And the monday exam is usually a bit harder than the one on Friday. For both exams, you need 90% to be passing. On hard exams, they can be curved (usually very rare because facultys always try to stick with their 90% rate). Some exams, everyone passes. But in some exams, almost 50% of the class fails.

How difficult are the exams?
See above comment.

Can you do your rotations wherever you want?
Yes, but it also can be NO. Generally, some sites already "contracted" with school thru years, so if you pick those sites, it would be easier. Other sites must be approved by the school coordinators. So if things don't work out between the site and the coordinator, then it's too bad. It also depends on the "lottery" draw at the end of your second year. If you are lucky, you will get what you want. Or else, it could be 50/50, or 60/40, etc..
Which of the didactic years are more difficult?

Second year is harder. But i personally liked 2nd year because it's more interesting. Like in first year, you learn about pharmacology drug A...work here...metabolized by X, excreted renally, etc...but have no clue why you're doing that. In second year (therapeutic year), you learn each disease state management, such as cardiovascular disease, hyperlipidemia, infectious disease, COPD. And in each disease state, you learn drug A, B, C working like this and that...and you will have a bigger overall picture.

Test-taking wise, second year is also different from first year. Second year is more of clinical, case-by-case presented...and you have to apply what you learn into the case studies. And yeah, it can be really challenging because a) the case is long to read b) You have to use your reasoning, knowledge to figure out the best answer c) All answers can be reasonable if you don't know what you're doing d)Too much information in a short period of time.

What is your daily schedule like?
8AM-12:00 straight, then 1 hour lunch...and then 13:00 to 15:00.
Class ends at 15:00


Do I have a chance with an overall and pre-req GPA of 3.6, biology degree, 82 PCAT, 1 and 1/2 years of pharmacy experience?

Yes, that seems to be competitive. And to me, everyone deserves a chance...😍
 
Thanks! Great idea! I have been getting a lot of inquiries as well. I was going to post a similar thread with my answers to these questions, but you covered most of the topics and of course you have more experience than I do answering some of these questions comparing P1-P3. Most people do say that P2 is harder and more time consuming, but they enjoyed it more.
 
Thanks! Great idea! I have been getting a lot of inquiries as well. I was going to post a similar thread with my answers to these questions, but you covered most of the topics and of course you have more experience than I do answering some of these questions comparing P1-P3. Most people do say that P2 is harder and more time consuming, but they enjoyed it more.


Thanks for the info you two!
 
Thanks for the info. USN is my top choice. Do you think that someone with a medical background has an edge if they already know some about the diseases you mentioned?
 
thanks this helps a lot.. especially on the exams.....
 
As a future P1 at Pacific University, you just answered a few of my questions since we are adopting the exact same curriculum as USN. Very helpful. Thanks.
 
Hello,

I am looking for the alumni of USN to see where the majority of USN graduates go to work. What states have USN's graduates; what settings the majority of them go? I just want to see a bigger picture of the alumni of USN.

Anybody has any clue? where to find it or how would you browse these data?

Ray
 
Ray, I asked my interviewer where USN grads went, and he told me that the great majority become retail pharmacists.
 
Hello, was wondering if anyone knew how fixed USN's admission scale was. I heard it was something like 28/28 pts given for gpa and 40 pts for interview.
A 91 total grants admission. Is that true? Does USN strictly go by this scale?

First time posting, sorry if done improperly.
 
Hello, was wondering if anyone knew how fixed USN's admission scale was. I heard it was something like 28/28 pts given for gpa and 40 pts for interview.
A 91 total grants admission. Is that true? Does USN strictly go by this scale?

First time posting, sorry if done improperly.


RxDink21,

Welcome to SDN.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=361939 - scroll down in this thread and you should see the info you seek around post #20 or so.

There is no official info from USN on this or info on whether or not USN goes strictly by the scale.
 
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Hello,

I am looking for the alumni of USN to see where the majority of USN graduates go to work. What states have USN's graduates; what settings the majority of them go? I just want to see a bigger picture of the alumni of USN.

Anybody has any clue? where to find it or how would you browse these data?

Ray

Ray, I asked my interviewer where USN grads went, and he told me that the great majority become retail pharmacists.

Ray and SoylentGreen,

I've heard that 70% or so of USA pharmacy school graduates will work in Retail. That is where the majority of the jobs are. I'm sure you could find this info through just by using google if you searched effectively. You'll likely need to contact USN for USN specfic info. You could even try PMing the current students or alumini who use SDN.

I'll give you one ancedotal account. I have a friend who is finishing up his 3rd year right now and will be graduating from USN in the next few weeks. He obtained a 2 year, which he'll begin this July, hospital/administrative residency position at a "prestigious state" pharmacy school/teaching hospital and medical center. He beat out six other applicants who wanted to match into this residency many of whom were from the same "prestigious state" pharmacy school.

It is true that the USN name may not ring in the pharmacy world as stellar as UCSF but few if any schools do. I think the USN name rings well in the pharmacy world though. USN was and is my first choice amongst Pharmacy schools. The Pharmacy School you attend will not likely be the determining factor on what you become in the Pharmacy world. If you set your goals and work hard I'd bet you can accomplish them.
 
Ray and SoylentGreen,

I've heard that 70% or so of USA pharmacy school graduates will work in Retail. That is where the majority of the jobs are. I'm sure you could find this info through just by using google if you searched effectively. You'll likely need to contact USN for USN specfic info. You could even try PMing the current students or alumini who use SDN.

I'll give you one ancedotal account. I have a friend who is finishing up his 3rd year right now and will be graduating from USN in the next few weeks. He obtained a 2 year, which he'll begin this July, hospital/administrative residency position at a "prestigious state" pharmacy school/teaching hospital and medical center. He beat out six other applicants who wanted to match into this residency many of whom were from the same "prestigious state" pharmacy school.

It is true that the USN name may not ring in the pharmacy world as stellar as UCSF but few if any schools do. I think the USN name rings well in the pharmacy world though. USN was and is my first choice amongst Pharmacy schools. The Pharmacy School you attend will not likely be the determining factor on what you become in the Pharmacy world. If you set your goals and work hard I'd bet you can accomplish them.

Thank you very much gsinccom,
There is no question about the quality of education that USN offers. USN has been in my top list of pharmacy school too. Their faculty members i think are one of the strong assets of USN that any university would like to have.
When i was in Portland during my interview with Pacific University. Their assitant dean spoke about USN's successful history and how they were able to produce one of the well versed set of pharmacists through their 3 year program. She also mentioned that graduates from USN has done great in NAPLEX and have been so competitive to hold any job in the market.
Her statements validated Pacific University's faith over USN's program (its an honor). I had taken her approach very seriously then. I was like "how did she know it?". Its not in USN's website. It made me more curious to know about graduates of USN. I searched and searched in google but could not the whole list. But, it was a worth try, i get to know how appreciatives the city of Henderson has been after launching pharmacy school in NV. Furthermore, USN is a growing institution with exanding pharmacy school in UTAH and adding up Nursing program in Henderson campus.
I am very positive all the graduates from USN must be satisfied with the educational experience they had at USN and job opportunities they got after graduation. Anyway, thank you very much for the information you provided about your friend from USN. We are proud to be a part of USN. 🙂

Ray
 
Since i have received quite a few PMs about USN. So, I'd like to answer to all of you in this thread. I'll borrow the questions from someone that PM me to post the answers here.



I'm a USN applicant this year. I was wondering if you could answer some questions for me?

Sure i can.
The first is I heard that the summer between P1 and P2 you go through 6 weeks of rotations and then you have a two month break...is this accurate?

Yes and Maybe. Yes because you have to do a community pharmacy rotation for 6 weeks during summer between P1 and P2. "Maybe" because you would have 1 and 1/2 month off if you don't have summer school. Some people have summer schools (because they failed during the school year), so they have NO break literally😱 .

Is every other weekend a 3-day weekend? When does your first year begin/end? When do you graduate?

First year begins in the end of August and ends at May. Graduation is always in June. Like me, i started in August 2004, so i will be grad in June 2007.


When do you have vacations?
Vacation is like NOW. XMAS, thanksgiving, new year's day, and maybe the weekend of the exam (if you don't fail...)If you don't pass an exam, can you retake it until you pass?

Yes, exams are given every other Friday and if you don't pass, you'll have a second chance on the following Monday. But keep in mind that the exam on Monday won't be the same as the one on friday (if it is, then who will study anymore rite?). And the monday exam is usually a bit harder than the one on Friday. For both exams, you need 90% to be passing. On hard exams, they can be curved (usually very rare because facultys always try to stick with their 90% rate). Some exams, everyone passes. But in some exams, almost 50% of the class fails.

How difficult are the exams?
See above comment.

Can you do your rotations wherever you want?
Yes, but it also can be NO. Generally, some sites already "contracted" with school thru years, so if you pick those sites, it would be easier. Other sites must be approved by the school coordinators. So if things don't work out between the site and the coordinator, then it's too bad. It also depends on the "lottery" draw at the end of your second year. If you are lucky, you will get what you want. Or else, it could be 50/50, or 60/40, etc..
Which of the didactic years are more difficult?

Second year is harder. But i personally liked 2nd year because it's more interesting. Like in first year, you learn about pharmacology drug A...work here...metabolized by X, excreted renally, etc...but have no clue why you're doing that. In second year (therapeutic year), you learn each disease state management, such as cardiovascular disease, hyperlipidemia, infectious disease, COPD. And in each disease state, you learn drug A, B, C working like this and that...and you will have a bigger overall picture.

Test-taking wise, second year is also different from first year. Second year is more of clinical, case-by-case presented...and you have to apply what you learn into the case studies. And yeah, it can be really challenging because a) the case is long to read b) You have to use your reasoning, knowledge to figure out the best answer c) All answers can be reasonable if you don't know what you're doing d)Too much information in a short period of time.

What is your daily schedule like?
8AM-12:00 straight, then 1 hour lunch...and then 13:00 to 15:00.
Class ends at 15:00


Do I have a chance with an overall and pre-req GPA of 3.6, biology degree, 82 PCAT, 1 and 1/2 years of pharmacy experience?

Yes, that seems to be competitive. And to me, everyone deserves a chance...😍

I think this is a very accurate summation of what our school is like. Thanks for posting. I have gotten a lot of PMs asking these types of questions and have been a bit too busy to answer (2nd year is done now though :hardy: ) so I am glad you took the time.
 
Its really helpful
 
Of course it is always helpful to have a medical background--it certainly couldn't hurt. You will come to see however, that the curriculum will still be quite challenging regardless. For all of those disease states there are many many drugs and here is where the fun begins. I'm sure you will do great though, so no worries.

This is in response to the 4th post asked by jaypea65.
 
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