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Maybe they are 3rd and 4th year students. I know that 1st and 2nd years would not be sent. But a 3rd or 4th year may want to do a rotation to gain more military medicine experience.
I am sure that someone who is currently at USUHS could clarify this.
When I interviewed at USUHS, they told me that they would not send a student to war because we would not be very helpful. We wouldn't have the skills to treat anyone. They would much rather have physicians who have gone through residency already.
I am sure that someone who is currently at USUHS could clarify this.
When I interviewed at USUHS, they told me that they would not send a student to war because we would not be very helpful. We wouldn't have the skills to treat anyone. They would much rather have physicians who have gone through residency already.
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I know, that's what they told us at the interviews. But my friend said that these were young students at the school being shipped off. I really didn't believe it. Which is why I'm looking to see if anybody else knows anything about this.
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I highly doubt the personnel your friend saw were medical students; they were probably other USUHS-assigned personnel, or the TV news people got their terminology mixed up. There is absolutely no value added by deploying medical students to a theater of operations. There are plenty of people they can still tap in the Active and Inactive Reserves (knocking on wood) before they need to yank med students.
That being said, there are lots of reasons why USUHS-assigned personnel might "go overseas". Students may just be going to Landstuhl RMC for a rotation. It's possible some 3rd/4th years are visiting Afghanistan for 2 weeks to see level I and II care in theater. Some of the graduate nursing students may still be PROFIS to deploying field hospitals. Alaska and Hawaii are considered OCONUS; when I was stationed in AK, we had USUHS students there in the summer attempting to earn their EFMB's. Worst case scenario would be, I think, is if SOCOM is hurting <<really>> bad for former SOF personnel, and USUHS students of that background are volunteering.
This above is all just speculation (75% of SDN posts by my reckoning 😉 ), but if you're USUHS bound, I think you can be confident they won't be handing you an M-4 and telling you walk point anytime soon.
That being said, there are lots of reasons why USUHS-assigned personnel might "go overseas". Students may just be going to Landstuhl RMC for a rotation. It's possible some 3rd/4th years are visiting Afghanistan for 2 weeks to see level I and II care in theater. Some of the graduate nursing students may still be PROFIS to deploying field hospitals. Alaska and Hawaii are considered OCONUS; when I was stationed in AK, we had USUHS students there in the summer attempting to earn their EFMB's. Worst case scenario would be, I think, is if SOCOM is hurting <<really>> bad for former SOF personnel, and USUHS students of that background are volunteering.
This above is all just speculation (75% of SDN posts by my reckoning 😉 ), but if you're USUHS bound, I think you can be confident they won't be handing you an M-4 and telling you walk point anytime soon.
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Wow...who comes up with this stuff?? I am assuming that you are saying that someone told you that USU students are being shipped out to support the operations in the Kuwait Theater of Operations or some other ongoing real world operation? If that is the question the answer is NO, about the only thing a medical student would be qualified to do over there is help put up tents and dig latrines and there is no shortage of people over there who are more qualified than we are to do that. Not only that, due to something called Operational Security even if we were being shipped out THIS forum is not an appropriate place to discuss unit/force movement or deployment. Furthermore, if our military's Medical Corps was depleted to the point where the only people left to act as docs were med students we would be in serious trouble (i.e. getting our tails kicked in an all out global war).
Do USU students ever go overseas? As Denali mentioned students here at USU do have opportunites to train and get various experiences overseas.
Do USU students ever go overseas? As Denali mentioned students here at USU do have opportunites to train and get various experiences overseas.
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USUHS students may indeed be deployed. The school trains more than just medical students... active duty nurses(CRNA's and post-bacc, as well as others). These active duty personnel with prior military experience are deployable. But, med students would not be. I am not saying that this scenario is exactly what occurred, but it is a possibility.
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You mean there is a Nursing program at USUHS?? After spending 2 years here I had no idea... 
Stavich and his crew must have really expanded the topic list for interview day. You mean to tell me they're now briefing prospective students on the deployment status of the nursing students?? 😕
Stavich and his crew must have really expanded the topic list for interview day. You mean to tell me they're now briefing prospective students on the deployment status of the nursing students?? 😕
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I think there is just a graduate nursing school...Originally posted by tman
You mean there is a Nursing program at USUHS?? After spending 2 years here I had no idea...
Stavich and his crew must have really expanded the topic list for interview day. You mean to tell me they're now briefing prospective students on the deployment status of the nursing students?? 😕
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To begin with, I was merely offering a possibility. Secondly, I think that a second year would show enough respect to refer to Col (ret) Stavish by his name and rank.
And USUHS does train graduate level nurses to become certified registered nurse anesthetists (hence the CRNA reference in my original post). There are two locations in the Armed Forces that have this program- USUHS and Fort Sam Houston. 😉
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Apparently my sarcasm was not adequately conveyed...
So I'll just skip the BS and cut to the chase:
A. I am well aware of the nursing programs at USUHS. I found it rather assinine that someone who has spent a grand total of two days at the school for interviews somehow decides that they know more about what's going on at the school than someone who has practically lived at the school for the past 2 years.
B. Any active duty or reserve soldier/sailor/marine/airman COULD be deployed. If they wanted me to go back to my old job I COULD be back operating in Iraq again in a matter of days. The handful of 18D medics we have here COULD be called back to SOCOM and be back on the teams in a matter of days. And yes, despite the fact that there are several thousand nurses in the military, they COULD decide that, "hey the 30-some nurses that are training at USUHS and who we've managed to get 1/2 to 3/4 of the way through training are needed so badly that we are going to pull them out of training and deploy them". So yes cdreed you are correct, virtually anyone who puts on a uniform COULD be deployed.
C. And finally if and when I decide that I need a refresher on customs and courtesies, I can guaranDAMNte you that the last person I will consult is an A1C/SRA med tech. PRIOR to matriculating into USUHS I had spent more than twice the amount of time that you have in service Deployed to some pretty crappy parts of the world. I spent more time as an AETC Training Instructor than you have in the service and in all I have already spent more time in the military than you'll probably serve in your career, so save your "I think that a second year...BLAHBLABLAHBLAwonkingBLAH" for someone who gives a hairy rat's behind about what you think.
Take Care
So I'll just skip the BS and cut to the chase:
A. I am well aware of the nursing programs at USUHS. I found it rather assinine that someone who has spent a grand total of two days at the school for interviews somehow decides that they know more about what's going on at the school than someone who has practically lived at the school for the past 2 years.
B. Any active duty or reserve soldier/sailor/marine/airman COULD be deployed. If they wanted me to go back to my old job I COULD be back operating in Iraq again in a matter of days. The handful of 18D medics we have here COULD be called back to SOCOM and be back on the teams in a matter of days. And yes, despite the fact that there are several thousand nurses in the military, they COULD decide that, "hey the 30-some nurses that are training at USUHS and who we've managed to get 1/2 to 3/4 of the way through training are needed so badly that we are going to pull them out of training and deploy them". So yes cdreed you are correct, virtually anyone who puts on a uniform COULD be deployed.
C. And finally if and when I decide that I need a refresher on customs and courtesies, I can guaranDAMNte you that the last person I will consult is an A1C/SRA med tech. PRIOR to matriculating into USUHS I had spent more than twice the amount of time that you have in service Deployed to some pretty crappy parts of the world. I spent more time as an AETC Training Instructor than you have in the service and in all I have already spent more time in the military than you'll probably serve in your career, so save your "I think that a second year...BLAHBLABLAHBLAwonkingBLAH" for someone who gives a hairy rat's behind about what you think.
Take Care
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You know what tman. I sincerely apologize for anything I said that may have offended you. I did not intend to patronize you or question your knowledge about the military or USUHS. Evidently, I hit a sore spot.
Hopefully, you'll be able to understand that I did not mean to attack you, and that I probably read through your sarcasm and misinterpreted it. I just get tired of the image of medical personnel that do not live up to the standards of military custom and courtesy. I should not have vented at you. Once again, I do appreciate all the time, effort and sacrifice that you and any other uniformed officer has devoted to defending the US.
Eventually, we will be colleagues. I don't want any negative action from an anonymous board to affect what might be a professional future in the AF. Please accept my humble apology.
Cyndi
Hopefully, you'll be able to understand that I did not mean to attack you, and that I probably read through your sarcasm and misinterpreted it. I just get tired of the image of medical personnel that do not live up to the standards of military custom and courtesy. I should not have vented at you. Once again, I do appreciate all the time, effort and sacrifice that you and any other uniformed officer has devoted to defending the US.
Eventually, we will be colleagues. I don't want any negative action from an anonymous board to affect what might be a professional future in the AF. Please accept my humble apology.
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Cyndi,
No need for an appology, it is I who should be doing that. I certainly could/should have been more tactful in my reply but sometimes I let my mouth..err fingers get the best of me. I spent a lot of years as an operator in the military where it's a dog eat dog mentality and my communications skills were honed around other boistrous warriors, it is not that we despise or disliked each other (just as I have no ill feelings toward you), in fact just the opposite is true, but brashness and sarcasm tends to be the lingo of an operator... a language that I must remind myself that most "civilized" people do not understand or use. Most people would be dumbfounded to hear the conversations that go on among a group of operators, one minute it sounds like they're about to stomp each others guts out and the next they are hanging out drinking a few beers being the best friends in the world. At any rate MY apologies for being such a jerk...
Indeed one day we shall be collegues and I will undoubtably benefit from working along side someone with the humility and professionalism (not to mention spelling skills) that you display...maybe some of it will rub off. In retrospect I should have simply answered the question and left it at that. Note to self...I should spend more time studying and quit spending my time typing up tirades on here...
Have a Good 'Un
P.S. anyone up for a round of Kumbya?
No need for an appology, it is I who should be doing that. I certainly could/should have been more tactful in my reply but sometimes I let my mouth..err fingers get the best of me. I spent a lot of years as an operator in the military where it's a dog eat dog mentality and my communications skills were honed around other boistrous warriors, it is not that we despise or disliked each other (just as I have no ill feelings toward you), in fact just the opposite is true, but brashness and sarcasm tends to be the lingo of an operator... a language that I must remind myself that most "civilized" people do not understand or use. Most people would be dumbfounded to hear the conversations that go on among a group of operators, one minute it sounds like they're about to stomp each others guts out and the next they are hanging out drinking a few beers being the best friends in the world. At any rate MY apologies for being such a jerk...
Indeed one day we shall be collegues and I will undoubtably benefit from working along side someone with the humility and professionalism (not to mention spelling skills) that you display...maybe some of it will rub off. In retrospect I should have simply answered the question and left it at that. Note to self...I should spend more time studying and quit spending my time typing up tirades on here...
Have a Good 'Un
P.S. anyone up for a round of Kumbya?
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Thank you for your response, tman. I would be honored to serve with you in the AF Medical Service. You have demonstrated extreme integrity, and I applaud you for your commitment to educating prospective applicants and myself.
On a side note, do you have any nuggets of wisdom to offer such a green medic in this time of political uncertainty?
Cyndi
On a side note, do you have any nuggets of wisdom to offer such a green medic in this time of political uncertainty?
Cyndi
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