UVa vs. UC Davis. I NEED ADVICE!!!

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hey all,

so as the title says, I am deciding between UVa and UC Davis. After fin aid packages, money comes out equal.

I dont want a flame war, but can anyone give me a reason of why to choose one over the other?

thanks!
 
As a graduate of UC Davis undergrad, an employee of the UC Davis Medical Center for two years, friend of several UC Davis physicians and researchers and "Aggie" for life, I would say you'd be CRAZY not to go to UVA unless there is some compelling reason for you to be in Northern Cali. That's just real talk.

hey all,

so as the title says, I am deciding between UVa and UC Davis. After fin aid packages, money comes out equal.

I dont want a flame war, but can anyone give me a reason of why to choose one over the other?

thanks!
 
As a graduate of UC Davis undergrad, an employee of the UC Davis Medical Center for two years, friend of several UC Davis physicians and researchers and "Aggie" for life, I would say you'd be CRAZY not to go to UVA unless there is some compelling reason for you to be in Northern Cali. That's just real talk.
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Another vote for UVA. Sacramento really really sucks 😛
 
UVA for sure! I live close to charlottesville and its an amazing school in an amazing setting. You wouldn't regret this choice unless you have a SO in california.
 
Well, if you want to do me a favor, you'll go to UC Davis.
 
As a graduate of UC Davis undergrad, an employee of the UC Davis Medical Center for two years, friend of several UC Davis physicians and researchers and "Aggie" for life, I would say you'd be CRAZY not to go to UVA unless there is some compelling reason for you to be in Northern Cali. That's just real talk.

Wow... that's unexpected 😱😱.

These threads are quite lame (even though I love UVA and will be there next year 😀). OP - you have given us NOTHING to work with, so it will become a war of preferences (i.e. west coast v. east coast) which most likely won't match your personal tastes. Give us something to work with (like your personal perceived pros and cons for each) and we can give you some more objective (instead of subjective) advice.

At any rate, congrats on your acceptances and good luck!
 
where are you from, OP? That should matter in your decision.
 
Go to UVA... Davis sucks.
 
I heard the school UC Davis is quite good. Is it because of Sacramento that people are hating on it?
 
Davis doesn't suck at all. It's just that UVA is that awesome. I've known quite a few people who've gone there, and every single one of them has nothing but praise for the place.
 
Davis doesn't suck at all. It's just that UVA is that awesome. I've known quite a few people who've gone there, and every single one of them has nothing but praise for the place.

they never interviewed me, so by that virtue they suck😛
 
hey all,

so as the title says, I am deciding between UVa and UC Davis. After fin aid packages, money comes out equal.

I dont want a flame war, but can anyone give me a reason of why to choose one over the other?

thanks!

I think it mostly depends where you want to live for the next 4 years and if you wanna end up in California for residency. Davis is probably better for getting a California residency and UVA for the East Coast. But they're both good schools.
 
Oh why didn't you just say that was why? I use the same measuring stick for my own feeling on schools, for the most part. 🙂

they never interviewed me, so by that virtue they suck😛
 
To me, UC Davis is impressive ! Maybe this is the only university that I go to so yea ...

I don't understand why pple hate UCD this much. In my opinion, UC Davis has a really friendly, and helpful atmosphere. Isn't that you are looking for? Academic level is not bad either. Period
 
To me, UC Davis is impressive ! Maybe this is the only university that I go to so yea ...

I don't understand why pple hate UCD this much. In my opinion, UC Davis has a really friendly, and helpful atmosphere. Isn't that you are looking for? Academic level is not bad either. Period

I think people hate Sac-town, not the university.
 
Wait wait wait. Okay. Davis is a sweet school. Any UC is a good deal for medical school (in state) and you'll get a fantastic education at any of them. Also, I think Sacramento is a pleasant and seriously underrated little city.

However, the issue here isn't how weak of a school UC Davis is. It's far from weak, it's an excellent medical school... UVA is just in a higher tier, that's all.
 
Wait wait wait. Okay. Davis is a sweet school.
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Any UC is a good deal for medical school (in state) and you'll get a fantastic education at any of them.
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Also, I think Sacramento is a pleasant and seriously underrated little city.
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However, the issue here isn't how weak of a school UC Davis is. It's far from weak, it's an excellent medical school... UVA is just in a higher tier, that's all.
UVA was amazing (from what I saw). Very relaxed atmosphere. If the tuition were cheaper, there's no doubt I'd be a UVA med student next year (I loved it that much)...UC Davis is also wonderful. Neither of these schools will hurt you when it comes to residency. So, it comes down to cost (which is not an issue for you) and where you'd rather live. Charlottesville >>> Sacramento. It's a fact 😛
 
I don't know much bout uva but I have heard great things bout the skool.

On the otherhand, I interviewed at davis and thought the skool was amazing. Totally was above my expectations: the faculty, students, facilities, etc. I am sure uva is the same. The only downside to davis is the location. Do have preference for east or west coast? And ur residency preferences?
 
I think it mostly depends where you want to live for the next 4 years and if you wanna end up in California for residency. Davis is probably better for getting a California residency and UVA for the East Coast. But they're both good schools.

I agree with this 👍👍
 
Gonna beat ya up. 😛

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UVA was amazing (from what I saw). Very relaxed atmosphere. If the tuition were cheaper, there's no doubt I'd be a UVA med student next year (I loved it that much)...UC Davis is also wonderful. Neither of these schools will hurt you when it comes to residency. So, it comes down to cost (which is not an issue for you) and where you'd rather live. Charlottesville >>> Sacramento. It's a fact 😛
 
What's the deal? My uncle seemed to think it was OK when he lived there in the mid-90s... I mean it's not Cville but still!
It's empty, cheap, there's nothing at all to do, real estate is dead, hot dry summers (in comparison to cali), cold rainy winters (also in comparison to cali)...It just plain sucks 😛
 
You guys just don't know what you're talking about. Sacramento is definitely the best city within the valley and there's plenty of things to do. Maybe its because I currently live in Stockton (but going to school in So Cal) and I can appreciate all that Sac-Town has to offer.
 
If worse comes to worst, I guess you could drive for couple of hours to the City, right?
 
Now Stockton, I think we can all agree, sucks balls. All they had was 49'ers training camp. 🙂

You guys just don't know what you're talking about. Sacramento is definitely the best city within the valley and there's plenty of things to do. Maybe its because I currently live in Stockton (but going to school in So Cal) and I can appreciate all that Sac-Town has to offer.
 
I'm an undergrad at Davis right now, and yeah... it's a bit dead. I literally just talked to two med students at UCDMC, and by the sounds of it (and med school in general), you'll be working so hard, there will hardly be time to worry about trivial things like a social life. 😀

These two students have had experience with interviewing applicants and everything, so I'll give a quick summary on what they said. Davis works really hard to match their applicants together to ensure that personalities mesh well, so there's a strong sense of unity. UCDMC is also the only Level I trauma center for Northern California, so if that floats your boat, you can consider that too.

Congrats on your acceptances, and best of luck deciding!
 
I'm an undergrad at Davis right now, and yeah... it's a bit dead. I literally just talked to two med students at UCDMC, and by the sounds of it (and med school in general), you'll be working so hard, there will hardly be time to worry about trivial things like a social life. 😀

These two students have had experience with interviewing applicants and everything, so I'll give a quick summary on what they said. Davis works really hard to match their applicants together to ensure that personalities mesh well, so there's a strong sense of unity. UCDMC is also the only Level I trauma center for Northern California, so if that floats your boat, you can consider that too.

Congrats on your acceptances, and best of luck deciding!
I dunno about that, pretty sure stanford and ucsf have their trauma centers and are in norcal.
 
Go Hoos! I've been at UVA since '03 and I love Cville. Check out the thread comparing UCLA vs UVA to get my detailed opinions on a lot of the positives about cville and UVA. I don't really have many negatives, sorry!
http://more.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=618376
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My apologies. I meant to say in the sac region, but that UCDMC trauma center is nationally ranked for norcal. I think it was in either top five or ten the last time I heard.

But yes, that would make sense there would be more than one trauma center around here. 😛
 
As long as you love me, we can live in any city you want, my dear.

:laugh: Maja, you know I love you...but you will never be able to convince me that Sacramento is a decent city.
 
I'd vote UC Davis.

Solid education, outstanding clinical training (ie. level-1 trauma center), new facilities, very highly regarded among CA residency directors, and if you aren't too big on the whole city thing you have Tahoe right there and SF/Beaches down the highway. Sac may not be picture perfect, but its got a pretty nice downtown and there has been an big influx of younger people. I haven't met any students that have disliked UCD-SOM, but that does not mean there aren't any.

I was turned down by Davis, but have always been a big fan. Its an underrated school in many respects. But don't let national prestige or ranking fool you, especially if you are eyeing CA for residency.
 
Now Stockton, I think we can all agree, sucks balls. All they had was 49'ers training camp. 🙂

Yes, Stockton does suck. They don't even have the 49'ers training camp anymore.
 
The father of one of my closest friends from home is a medical professor at UC Davis in Neuro. I'm a non-trad, so her dad is in his late 70's. He has become extremely disappointed at the deterioration of the medical education at UCD in the past decade or so and has increasingly felt that the reputation of Davis is just taking a long time to catch up with the deterioration of its education. I believe he thinks a huge part of the problem stems from cuts (whether financial-based or simply time-wise I don't know) to the anatomy curriculum and less tangibly from students' understanding of basic physiology/biomedical principles that mean by the time he gets the students in their 3rd and 4th years, they are too often disappointingly underprepared. He has gone as far as to say that he has felt that some (not all) of the Touro D.O. students who have rotated through have been better prepared recently and that he truly feels some of the recent grads will not be competent and safe physicians due to their shortcomings in really fundamental concepts. What I don't know is if this truly speaks to the education as a whole or actually speaks to shortcomings within the basic education relevant to his field (for instance maybe Davis is really preparing students more for fields other than Neuro and he perceives they are more broadly underprepared than they are b/c Neuro is his field), but it is definitely something he has been really distraught about for the past several years.

I believe he has made comments about a significant portion of the anatomy labs being computer and/or pro-section supplemented and thus not "sticking" with students? I am not 100% certain this was a comment about the Davis students b/c he gets graduates from all med schools as residents in addition to rotating med students, but I do believe it was a comment about Davis and some of the other UC schools. I would simply investigate the anatomy education and see if you feel it is lesser than at UVA.

-Look into the match lists for both schoools.

-Consider the location (Sacramento stinks...someone just reminded me that the med school is in Sac...as a former CA engineer, I was thinking of the main UC campus. At least Davis has some cute parts).

-People do have an easier time matching places near where they went to school, so long-term if you want to stay in CA, it *might* behoove you to go to Davis, but it definitely isn't necessary. If you want to stay out east, UVA might be a better option. Either school is good, so it's not like you're not going to match, and your own USMLE's and clerkship performance will be the biggest factor in your success.

I don't have any inside info for comparison to UVA, so please don't take this as a statement that UVA is a better option than Davis...maybe if I also knew someone there, I'd say UVA had worse problems. I just want to alert you that I know some issues to consider.

Obviously you have 2 great choices. Good Luck!
 
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the OP is from cali..he/she should go to UCDavis..cheaper, better chance to stay in cali after med school..assuming he/she wants to stay in cali...which everyone in their right mind would...

UVA is an expensive school. if it's UCDavis vs. let's say...Yale/Penn...then it's a harder decision...go with the $$$
 
the OP is from cali..he/she should go to UCDavis..cheaper, better chance to stay in cali after med school..assuming he/she wants to stay in cali...which everyone in their right mind would...

UVA is an expensive school. if it's UCDavis vs. let's say...Yale/Penn...then it's a harder decision...go with the $$$

The OP said that after financial awards, the prices for both schools would be around the same.
 
You may have a point there. Except, I don't know about the "everyone in their right mind would" want to stay in Cali for residency.

- Most of the nice places to live in Cali are extremely expensive.
- Most of the nice places to live in Cali are filled with generally superficial, anti-intellectual populations.
- Not everyone likes not having 4 "seasons".

I have family in Cali, I was born and raised in Cali, but I think it's over rated. Particularly Los Angeles. I get sick to my stomach watching these dumb ass, shallow, self-important, anti-intellectual girls walking around in their knee-high Uggz and "Juicy" or "PINK" short-shorts. Not that the shorts aren't sexy, but the girls' personalities usually aren't sexy, making the skimpy clothing they wear an annoying-tease at best and a disgusting-misrepresentation at the worst. When you stop and talk to them, you realize they have nothing to offer the world other than the physical traits they were born with, the physical traits that have tragically been wasted on their otherwise empty selves.

When you visit Washington DC, Boston, Philadelphia... you more often find that the pretty girls (or pretty "people" in general) a) have minds and b) actually think it's cool to share them.

... Hmm. But why don't I tell you how I REALLY feel about Cali. 🙂

the OP is from cali..he/she should go to UCDavis..cheaper, better chance to stay in cali after med school..assuming he/she wants to stay in cali...which everyone in their right mind would...

UVA is an expensive school. if it's UCDavis vs. let's say...Yale/Penn...then it's a harder decision...go with the $$$
 
You may have a point there. Except, I don't know about the "everyone in their right mind would" want to stay in Cali for residency.

- Most of the nice places to live in Cali are extremely expensive.
- Most of the nice places to live in Cali are filled with generally superficial, anti-intellectual populations.
- Not everyone likes not having 4 "seasons".

I have family in Cali, I was born and raised in Cali, but I think it's over rated. Particularly Los Angeles. I get sick to my stomach watching these dumb ass, shallow, self-important, anti-intellectual girls walking around in their knee-high Uggz and "Juicy" or "PINK" short-shorts. Not that the shorts aren't sexy, but the girls' personalities usually aren't sexy, making the skimpy clothing they wear an annoying-tease at best and a disgusting-misrepresentation at the worst. When you stop and talk to them, you realize they have nothing to offer the world other than the physical traits they were born with, the physical traits that have tragically been wasted on their otherwise empty selves.

... Hmm. But why don't I tell you how I REALLY feel about Cali. 🙂

LOL! We have our fair share of that crowd at UVA (some of the undergrad crowd considers it to be the "country club" university or something) - but they are at least fun to talk to/look at for 10 minutes :laugh::laugh:
 
The father of one of my closest friends from home is a medical professor at UC Davis in Neuro. I'm a non-trad, so her dad is in his late 70's. He has become extremely disappointed at the deterioration of the medical education at UCD in the past decade or so and has increasingly felt that the reputation of Davis is just taking a long time to catch up with the deterioration of its education. I believe he thinks a huge part of the problem stems from cuts (whether financial-based or simply time-wise I don't know) to the anatomy curriculum and less tangibly from students' understanding of basic physiology/biomedical principles that mean by the time he gets the students in their 3rd and 4th years, they are too often disappointingly underprepared. He has gone as far as to say that he has felt that some (not all) of the Touro D.O. students who have rotated through have been better prepared recently and that he truly feels some of the recent grads will not be competent and safe physicians due to their shortcomings in really fundamental concepts. What I don't know is if this truly speaks to the education as a whole or actually speaks to shortcomings within the basic education relevant to his field (for instance maybe Davis is really preparing students more for fields other than Neuro and he perceives they are more broadly underprepared than they are b/c Neuro is his field), but it is definitely something he has been really distraught about for the past several years.

I believe he has made comments about a significant portion of the anatomy labs being computer and/or pro-section supplemented and thus not "sticking" with students? I am not 100% certain this was a comment about the Davis students b/c he gets graduates from all med schools as residents in addition to rotating med students, but I do believe it was a comment about Davis and some of the other UC schools. I would simply investigate the anatomy education and see if you feel it is lesser than at UVA.

-Look into the match lists for both schoools.

-Consider the location (Sacramento stinks...someone just reminded me that the med school is in Sac...as a former CA engineer, I was thinking of the main UC campus. At least Davis has some cute parts).

-People do have an easier time matching places near where they went to school, so long-term if you want to stay in CA, it *might* behoove you to go to Davis, but it definitely isn't necessary. If you want to stay out east, UVA might be a better option. Either school is good, so it's not like you're not going to match, and your own USMLE's and clerkship performance will be the biggest factor in your success.

I don't have any inside info for comparison to UVA, so please don't take this as a statement that UVA is a better option than Davis...maybe if I also knew someone there, I'd say UVA had worse problems. I just want to alert you that I know some issues to consider.

Obviously you have 2 great choices. Good Luck!

I'm not sure who your friend's dad is, but your description does not describe my experiences at UC Davis in the basic science years. We definitely did anatomy and neuroanatomy on cadavers that we dissected ourselves, not on a computer or prosections. Pathology was done via computer with some gross specimens to supplement. They have restructured the curriculum since I did it, but from my understanding most of the content remained the same and was just re-organized to be systems-based. If the OP is concerned about this, I am sure the admissions office could clarify.

In terms of UC Davis students being underprepared for practice, I find that very hard to believe given my experiences thus far in residency and those of my classmates that I am in touch with. When we went through 4th year, most people I spoke with about it felt very aqequately prepared to perform well on away rotations and matched at one of their top choice programs. I think that there will always be people at every institution who think that the curriculum could be changed in certain ways to better prepare students. But I really do not think that UCD graduates incompetent people.

I agree with your list of factors for the OP to consider. I would emphasize that now having gone through the match and seeing residency decision be made, I do think that geographic connections can be very helpful. The letter you have from someone at your home program who is well-known by other colleagues in the area can carry a lot of weight. If you are sure you want to practice in California, UCD is a good choice. That said, obviously you can still match in CA if you go elsewhere for medical school, especially if you do away rotations. Pick the school that you will be most comfortable at and that will give you the best clinical training. Best of luck with your decision and if you have questions about UCD feel free to PM me.
 
You may have a point there. Except, I don't know about the "everyone in their right mind would" want to stay in Cali for residency.

- Most of the nice places to live in Cali are extremely expensive.
- Most of the nice places to live in Cali are filled with generally superficial, anti-intellectual populations.
- Not everyone likes not having 4 "seasons".

I have family in Cali, I was born and raised in Cali, but I think it's over rated. Particularly Los Angeles. I get sick to my stomach watching these dumb ass, shallow, self-important, anti-intellectual girls walking around in their knee-high Uggz and "Juicy" or "PINK" short-shorts. Not that the shorts aren't sexy, but the girls' personalities usually aren't sexy, making the skimpy clothing they wear an annoying-tease at best and a disgusting-misrepresentation at the worst. When you stop and talk to them, you realize they have nothing to offer the world other than the physical traits they were born with, the physical traits that have tragically been wasted on their otherwise empty selves.

When you visit Washington DC, Boston, Philadelphia... you more often find that the pretty girls (or pretty "people" in general) a) have minds and b) actually think it's cool to share them.

... Hmm. But why don't I tell you how I REALLY feel about Cali. 🙂

Totally funny, and illogical.
 
i think he's talking about so cali, specifically, the wealthy areas like brentwood, westwood, bel-air, hollywood...

females in nor cal like san fran and berkeley are not that generally superficial because they like to let go and grow armpit hair
 
i think he's talking about so cali, specifically, the wealthy areas like brentwood, westwood, bel-air, hollywood...

females in nor cal like san fran and berkeley are not that generally superficial because they like to let go and grow armpit hair

So your answer is UVA?
 
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