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Hello everyone!
What is the current state in the medical job market in Canada?
Are there open positions for foreign medical graduates?
Thanks!

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For FMG's, I assume that you mean somebody who did not have their medical education in Canada or the US. For that, there are no job vacancies.

For FMG's you will need to do a residency before you can have an independent license. See http://www.img-canada.ca/ for more information.

Also see www.carms.ca for more information and statistics on Canadian residencies.
 
Unless you're prepared to do family practice in rural areas. Rural British Columbia have over 60 vacancies for people who are prepared to practice in rural areas and their only requirement is 2 years postgraduate training somewhere with rotations in family medicine, O&G, psychiatry, ED, medicine and surgery (so a basic family med training). And the salaries are none too shabby. So there are ways in depending on what you want to do.
 
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DrIng said:
Unless you're prepared to do family practice in rural areas. Rural British Columbia have over 60 vacancies for people who are prepared to practice in rural areas and their only requirement is 2 years postgraduate training somewhere with rotations in family medicine, O&G, psychiatry, ED, medicine and surgery (so a basic family med training). And the salaries are none too shabby. So there are ways in depending on what you want to do.

Might need to check the facts well. BC might grant you a temprary license if you postgraduate training is in some specific countries (See the article below). I have several friends in BC who have all the postgraduate training that is needed for countries not on that list and cant get the license. I live in Ontario and I know of hundreds of IMG's who have all the postgraduate training required and would jump at the opportunity to practice in rural BC. Some of these people have tried and always receive the polite response that their postgraduate training is not equivalent to Canadian training. Even if you want to repeat your residency in BC, the government only sponsors 6 IMG's per year for family medicine residency and you will be competing against 100's.

You can have a look at this site which represents IMG's in BC
http://aimd.bcitp.net/

The article below is from the site and it will explian the BC situation.


Straight Talk about Getting a Practice in BC


It is important to understand some diffecult facts if you are an internationally trained medical doctor looking for work in your field in Canada, and specifically in BC.

First, internationally trained medical doctors are not referred to as "medical doctors" or "internationally trained medical doctors". The Canadian medical community refers to these professionals as "International Medical Graduates", or "IMGs". For the sake of clarity, AIMD BC also refers to doctors who are trained outside Canada as "IMGs".

There are a number of different kinds of IMGs in Canada. There are “Fellows” who come to Canada for a set period of time to gain work experience and advance thier skills. These IMGs work in hospitals and in exchange for the opportunity to expand their knowledge they are paid less than what a licensed Canadian doctor would make for the same work. Once "Fellows" have completed their experience they must return to their countries of origin.

A second group of IMG’s in Canada are referred to by the media as "Visa Doctors", for lack of a better term. These IMGs come from countries that pay a premium to Canadian medical universities for post graduate residency training. Again, once the "Visa Doctors" have completed their residency training they must return to their country of origin.

A third group of IMGs are those who immigrate to Canada from a select group of Commonwealth countries. Each province in Canada has different criteria for accepting foreign trained doctors. The College of Physicians and Surgeons of BC (usually referred to as ‘the College”), which presides over the licensing of all doctors in British Columbia, has referred to these Commonwealth doctors in the past as "Group A" IMGs.

We have ascertained that England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa are on this so called ‘Group A’ list for the BC College. Qualified citizens of those countries can practice medicine immediately upon arrival in BC, although it is usually in a rural area. You must successfully complete all the national exams within three years of arriving in Canada. If you are a "Group A" IMG, getting work here is fairly straightforward. (Specialists must first be accepted by the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada before being licensed by the College of Physicians and Surgeons of BC.)

The fourth group is made up of those doctors who immigrate to Canada to work and become productive Canadian citezens but who come from other countries outside of the Group A list. These IMGs were referred to as Group B in the past and they must repeat their post graduate training, in Canada, before they can obtain a medical licence. AIMD BC is primarily concerned with addressing the barriers and challenges that concern these doctors in getting recognition and employment in the field of health care. When we at AIMD BC refer to "IMGs", we are actually referring to medical doctors who are trained in countries and/or universities not recognized by the College and who must repeat training in BC.


The Royal College has a list of countries they accept and if you are a specialist then you need to be familiar with this list. (See the 'acceptable' list at the Royal College website). We have asked the College of Physicians and Surgeons of BC to provide us with a similar list of countries and/or universities whose training it has accredited and approved for BC, but we have been told that a definitive list does not exist. Instead the BC College asks IMGs to contact it directly. Be prepared to pay a fee to be told whether your residency training is acceptable in BC or not.

If you come from BC's main immigration countires, China, India, the Phillipines, Iran, Eastern Europe, Russia and most other non-English speaking, non-Commonwealth countries, then your education is not recognized in BC and you must re-do your residency training to work as a doctor here. Getting access to a residency is extremely difficult, which is one of the main reasons why AIMD BC has formed.
 
Grand_Master said:
Hello everyone!
What is the current state in the medical job market in Canada?
Are there open positions for foreign medical graduates?
Thanks!

The medical job market is hot in Canada, although of course, you shouldn't expect to earn as much as an American doctor. In the province of Quebec, for instance, I read that there is a shortage of as many as 800 general doctors and an even greater demand for specialists. However, just keep in mind that in order to practice in any health care profession in Quebec, you have to satisfy the bilingual laws set by the "Office de la Langue Francaise". In other words, you have to know french and either provide evidence of schooling in french or pass a french exam. These bilingual laws are restricted to Quebec.

I suppose if you worked in academia, you might be able to get away with not knowing French. Montreal is a hub of great academic activity as it is home to four universities, including McGill, an internationally reknown Ivy League university attracting many international students and researchers of high caliber. This year, McGill was named the top medical/doctoral university in Canada.

From what I understand, Canada is accepting more foreign trained doctors because of the doctor shortage we are experiencing across the country. I've met a number of foreign trained doctors who worked in research labs in universities while they prepared to pass medical board exams required for licensing to practice here.
 
Smilemaker100 said:
...including McGill, an internationally reknown Ivy League university attracting many international students and researchers of high caliber. This year, McGill was named the top medical/doctoral university in Canada....

since when mcgill is an ivy league university ?
do you know what ivy league is ?
 
Smilemaker100 said:
The medical job market is hot in Canada, although of course, you shouldn't expect to earn as much as an American doctor. In the province of Quebec, for instance, I read that there is a shortage of as many as 800 general doctors and an even greater demand for specialists. However, just keep in mind that in order to practice in any health care profession in Quebec, you have to satisfy the bilingual laws set by the "Office de la Langue Francaise". In other words, you have to know french and either provide evidence of schooling in french or pass a french exam. These bilingual laws are restricted to Quebec.

I suppose if you worked in academia, you might be able to get away with not knowing French. Montreal is a hub of great academic activity as it is home to four universities, including McGill, an internationally reknown Ivy League university attracting many international students and researchers of high caliber. This year, McGill was named the top medical/doctoral university in Canada.

From what I understand, Canada is accepting more foreign trained doctors because of the doctor shortage we are experiencing across the country. I've met a number of foreign trained doctors who worked in research labs in universities while they prepared to pass medical board exams required for licensing to practice here.

Remember that Quebec have got the lowest number of IMG's practicing in Canada. From what I understand it is the most difficult province to get a licence to practice. To work in academia, I do not think that you need any licence. All that you need is a job offer. Remember also that it is estimated that there are about 10,000 IMG's in Canada trying to get their licence inspite of all the noise about doctor shortages. You may want to check this site
http://www.img-canada.ca/
The site provides a lot of information about provincial licensing requirements. I estimate that in all there may be not more than 400 positions across Canada for IMG's for residency every year. Ontario is the best province providing up to 200 positions per year (normally about 150 positions get filled). Carms may provide about 80 positions per year and other provinces provide from as low as 4 positions to about 25 positions per year.
 
avenirv said:
since when mcgill is an ivy league university ?
do you know what ivy league is ?[/QUOTE:

Definition of Ivy League

"An association of eight universities and colleges in the northeast United States, comprising Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Princeton, the University of Pennsylvania, and Yale."

While McGill University isn't officially called an "ivy league", it does have an international reputation and is considered to be the equivalent to Harvard University .It has occasionally been referred to as the "Harvard of the North."

http://www.mcgill.ca/newswire/?ItemID=17434

http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/education/article.jsp?content=20051114_115060_115060#continue
 
While McGill University isn't officially called an "ivy league", it does have an international reputation and is considered to be the equivalent to Harvard University .It has occasionally been referred to as the "Harvard of the North."



"Harvard of the North". Yeah, I own that T-shirt, too.

McGill is an internationaly-renowned institution, full-stop. It doesn't need to be quantified by some reference to Ivy League. Jesus, can we get over the Canadian inferiority complex all ready?

And no, I didn't go to McGill (in fact, I went to one of their traditional rivals).
 
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