Vanderbilt vs Case vs Rochester

[minidinosaur]

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[Hollow Knight]

I'm going to plug Vandy- their med students are SOOO happy, and that counts for a lot. Step 1 is fine since their year 2 isn't intense at all. You don't get grades, so when the IM resident lets you go at noon..... you can go study. No penalty whatsoever for skipping out.

As you noted, though, they're going to suck at primary care. And honestly, assuming you take out loans, you'd want to avoid going into FM/general IM/peds with that kind of debt anyway (but that might apply to all three of these schools, I'm not sure). How much would each school cost you in total?

Yes, there are racist people in the south. However, the vast majority of people down here are completely fine/normal/not racist hicks, especially in urban areas. Like no way your classmates/faculty/staff will be racist, but some of your lower SES patients might be.

I'd avoid Case only because of useless mandatory things. But if you're the type of person who got into any of these schools, you'll match well regardless of where you go.

 

[minidinosaur]

I'm going to plug Vandy- their med students are SOOO happy, and that counts for a lot. Step 1 is fine since their year 2 isn't intense at all. You don't get grades, so when the IM resident lets you go at noon..... you can go study. No penalty whatsoever for skipping out.

As you noted, though, they're going to suck at primary care. And honestly, assuming you take out loans, you'd want to avoid going into FM/general IM/peds with that kind of debt anyway (but that might apply to all three of these schools, I'm not sure). How much would each school cost you in total?

Yes, there are racist people in the south. However, the vast majority of people down here are completely fine/normal/not racist hicks, especially in urban areas. Like no way your classmates/faculty/staff will be racist, but some of your lower SES patients might be.

I'd avoid Case only because of useless mandatory things. But if you're the type of person who got into any of these schools, you'll match well regardless of where you go.

Thanks so much! Great to hear your insights into Vandy. And in terms of COA, Rochester would be at the lower end of around 95k and vandy at the higher end of 105k, so yes, I can see how going into primary care wouldn’t be the most appealing. I’m not sure if that’s a significant difference but I also won’t know for sure till I get aid packages later.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Thanks so much! Great to hear your insights into Vandy. And in terms of COA, Rochester would be at the lower end of around 95k and vandy at the higher end of 105k, so yes, I can see how going into primary care wouldn’t be the most appealing. I’m not sure if that’s a significant difference but I also won’t know for sure till I get aid packages later.

It's not a substantial difference. The general rule is not to borrow more than twice your annual salary. If an internist makes about $200,000 a year (that's pretty conservative, you can make more), try not to borrow more than $400,000 for school.

So I guess you could pay your loans off as a PCP from vandy. It would just be easier as a [insert well-paid subspecialist here]

 

[deleted1065184]

Nashville is ~27% Black, ~11% Latino, over 6% mixed race, and almost 4% Asian. 45% of the population is non-white. We're not in the Jim Crow era anymore, you'll be fine.

Don't worry about Step, you'll be find wherever you go, it won't make a difference. You'll use 3rd party resources regardless.

Assuming COA is similar at all 3, which school do you like the most? Just strictly based on vibes? Consider that and the fact that Vandy has semi-pass/fail clinical, which will reduce your stress a lot. They also have a reputation for meaningfully caring about student mental well-being. Not just mandatory wellness lectures where they blame trainees for burnout like most other schools do lmfao

 

[CHCl3]

yes please select vandy so i can get off rochester's mf waitlist pls thanks. JK but pls do. ur awesome.

 

[CompleteTheComeback]

Accepted Rochester applicant here, did not apply to Case/Vanderbilt. Just wanted to second that I really liked the vibe and atmosphere of the school, and it seems like student support and wellness is emphasized. I'm sure you would do amazing at any these great options! On another note, you mentioned that Rochester's match list was pretty good. Do you know if they publish this? All I saw on their website was general statistics with percentages but they don't list the specific programs students match to. Congratulations and thanks!

 

[minidinosaur]

@CompleteTheComeback Thanks! And yes, you’re right, I did also see some aggregate data specialty wise but there’s a list of the programs from 2020 and some older ones here: https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/Medi...md/alumni/Match-Results-2020-By-Specialty.pdf