Originally posted by Premed2003
You know, I think your jealosy is showing. I haven't had much luck yet either, but at least I'm not blaming other people for my deficiencies.
How could you claim that the hardest working people -- goal-oriented and ambitious -- are not empathetic? And you claim that because you're not ambitious, you are empathetic? If you want to be a doctor so badly, maybe you should have worked harder in school. I am not blaming others for my low numbers. I take responsibility for it, and I know why adcomms are accepting other people and not me -- they did better, have a more impressive record, and deserve to be doctors.
Now, my numbers aren't horrific, but other people have better numbers.
I just wish people would stop claiming "it is a numbers game, just as I had feared." Of course numbers are important. If admissions offices don't trust that you could succeed in the academic environment, they're not going to accept you.
The extracurriculars come into play after you have passed the initial numbers screen. They know you'll succeed...now, will you be a leader? Will you make a significant contribution to society, or just be another doctor.
Good luck everyone!
I hope this was not directed to me because I in no way implied a correlation between intellect and empathy. I think you are really misunderstanding what others are saying here.
I don't mean to bring up somethign that may be a sore point to you, but when the MCATs came out, were you not the person who made like two different threads about getting 7,13,13?? Were you also not the person who spoke to your intelligence simply because you went to an Ivy school.....asking questions like, "I may have a three point whatever GPA but I'm from Princeton?" I think that this whole process is grueling to everybody as it is. We need support around here, not reasons to make somebody feel bad because they didn't do too well in school. And while we are on the topic, I would like to make it known that my lower grades are not because I was partying in undergrad years. I got into an Ivy, chose not to go there because my parents who are immigrants had no money at the time; I had to work two jobs, go to school, and also make sure I had enough EC's and other things that would make me a good applicant. You heard enough yet? Now, imagine yourself doing all that and finding out that somebody in your family got into an accident. Now imagine them being in a coma for God knows how long. I was lost...depressed...I could not cope with it at the time. So, I did poorly in school. Sorry, I am only human.
I don't really want to make my case here (although I feel like I am going there), but you really should not make generalizations that "if you want to get into medical school, you should have worked harder." I probably worked harder than you, for all you know. Sometimes, HARD WORK is not the only ingredient for success. There are other things like luck. That is why this whole process is called a crap shoot. And even if I was jealous, SO WHAT? I think it's only natural for others to compare (and I know I am not the first on SDN; others will just not TELL YOU that they are jealous) their scores et al to see how they match up. It's only HUMAN. Jealousy or being envious is okay, as long as you are not hurting other's sentiments. I believe I have not done anything to intentionally hurt anybody, even you (and God knows I have wanted to send you a nasty PM with that remark you made about going to Ivy schools). It would be weird for me to NOT get envious because that would mean that I don't care about my application. And I also think that being envious of others, and being happy for them when they get an interview/acceptance are exclusive of each other. In other words, let's say my friend Lola gets an interview (and I know she's been wanting one too!)...yes, I might be envious but it will not stop me from being happy for her. I WANT others to succeed too, I just want myself to be part of that group. How bad is that??
And where did you even get the "I am not blaming others for my low numbers, I am taking responsiblity for it." I'd like to know where you saw me "blame others" for anything. I'd like to think I am a responsible, caring, intelligent and mature candidate who is being overlooked because I don't have the numbers to make the initial screen. Not some monster you just made me out to be.
Anyway, it's all good. I know WHAT I am and I got nuthin to prove to you. I hope you do well this process because the first time is bad enough......
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PS: and one more comment about jealousy--we'll see how you feel when somebody with a measly 27 from a state school gets in and you don't with your Ivy GPA 33 on the MCAT. This process is horrific as it is, why not instill a bit of faith in your peers instead??
PPS: To all others that replied to my thread, esp. OneStrongBro, you are all awesome. I am really glad to see that I'm not the only one. Lola, I still got my fingers crossed for your Loyola secondary, bebe.