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TMS@1987

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I was just wondering, in all of your yrs of working in the MH field, has a patient ever become violent with you? that includes screaming, pushing, hitting, grabbing, biting, etc.
If so, what happened? how did it happen? etc.
 
I worked in a neurorehab center where I was screamed at, threatened, grabbed, punched, kicked, bitten, scratched, sexually propositioned, and where I had my hair pulled, my glasses broken twice, and almost had a pencil shoved in my neck at one point. I usually experienced violent episodes every single shift. Oh, how I miss it! They definitely kept me on my toes. :meanie:
 
I worked in a neurorehab center where I was screamed at, threatened, grabbed, punched, kicked, bitten, scratched, sexually propositioned, and where I had my hair pulled, my glasses broken twice, and almost had a pencil shoved in my neck at one point. I usually experienced violent episodes every single shift. Oh, how I miss it! They definitely kept me on my toes. :meanie:


Noooo, not your glasses getting broken, lol!! I used to volunteer for a school for emotionally troubled students and...I would usually wear contacts when there because my glasses seem like such a good target lol, made me feel 10x more vulnerable if that makes sense.
 
i once had a young man with autism come up behind me (he was much taller than i am) and scratch his nails down the sides of my face.
i was more in shock than in pain. the pain came after.

i also had a girl with m.r. bite me and punch me in the stomach.

sigh, i love kids 🙂
 
In a past position as a mental health care worker at a large psychiatric hospital, I had to serve on the restraint team for aggressive and violent patients (I used to use this as a pcik-up line :laugh:. It even worked on RayneeDeigh!😀) Designated workers used to be paged from all units and would arrive in a large group to deal with the patient. The team was usually led by a nurse who had a sedative medication ready to inject. The patient was always verbally redirected first and usually the very presence of the team was enough to get the patient to comply. Non-compliance was frequently followed by members of the team physically placing the patient on a bed in a room away from the others patients. The patient was then restrained with various combinations of four point leather restraints, velcro straps, over the body mesh sheets, and occasional mouth or facial protectives. Usually, by that point the patient was already injected with a sedative so the patient relaxed quickly. I seem to remember seeing a real straight jacket before but do not remember using it.

Aggressive individuals with mental ******ation/ developmental disabilities are a whole other ball game. Staff can not even touch the clients unless it is written into their physician/ psychologist signed plans ahead of time, which are further reviewed by different committees, due to so many years of abuse in the industry. Staff are always trained in SCIP (Strategies of Crisis Intervention Prevention) or similar techniques. Much of the aggression is self-injurious behavior and staff is hurt by trying to stop the person from harming him or herself. When a physical restraint is used everything is monitored and the whole "incident" in written up and submitted to state officials who the decide if staff did anything inappropriate to the client.

I have been slapped, hit, kicked, grabbed, scraped, nearly bitten, pushed, pulled, and had clothes ripped (that will teach me to wear Armani suits to work:laugh:). By the way, never wear something like a tie or scraf arounf your neck when you are working with people who are prone to aggression. Also, long hair is not such a great idea.

If you have never experienced any of this, do not worry. Everyone in the field in always trained in basic safety/ intevention methods. I have seen many small people deal very well with very large aggressive patients. You should really always be on your defensive and always know where back up help is available if necessary. Many clinics have their own security to deal with such situations or just call the police and/or EMS so they can take care of the problem. Also, 99% of the time, there are warning signs to the patient aggression and it does not just come out of the blue so the real trick is to intevene early before the person become physically aggressive.
 
Been screamed at and threatened a lot, charged at, scratched, had my ponytail yanked, and given the occasional death threat. One client was sure they were going to kill me by putting me through the paper shredder. One time I was wearing a red shirt with black lettering and a client was convinced that I was a Russian spy b/c I was wearing red and I must have been sent by the Nazis b/c of the black lettering. The client was then convinced I put microchips and/or poison in his meds and made all the other clients take their meds first to see if they croaked 😛 Client also told me that the Nazis were spying on America (through me) from their vacation home in Jamaica. 😛
 
Been screamed at and threatened a lot, charged at, scratched, had my ponytail yanked, and given the occasional death threat. One client was sure they were going to kill me by putting me through the paper shredder. One time I was wearing a red shirt with black lettering and a client was convinced that I was a Russian spy b/c I was wearing red and I must have been sent by the Nazis b/c of the black lettering. The client was then convinced I put microchips and/or poison in his meds and made all the other clients take their meds first to see if they croaked 😛 Client also told me that the Nazis were spying on America (through me) from their vacation home in Jamaica. 😛

Man can you imagine how much that would suck, going through life believing that kind of stuff. Miserable. Guess that's why people like us want to help.
 
Been screamed at and threatened a lot, charged at, scratched, had my ponytail yanked, and given the occasional death threat. One client was sure they were going to kill me by putting me through the paper shredder. One time I was wearing a red shirt with black lettering and a client was convinced that I was a Russian spy b/c I was wearing red and I must have been sent by the Nazis b/c of the black lettering. The client was then convinced I put microchips and/or poison in his meds and made all the other clients take their meds first to see if they croaked 😛 Client also told me that the Nazis were spying on America (through me) from their vacation home in Jamaica. 😛

Do you think there is a gender difference in the level of violence threatened/used at therapists?

Mark
 
In regards to the gender of the person doing the threatening or the person it's aimed at? Most of the stuff I have experienced has come from females. In my experience at least, the females threaten more violence whereas the males express more delusions/paranoia (if they do make threats, it's more like "I'm going to call the FBI" where as the females have expressed more direct threats).

I also find that I tend to receive more threats/profanity than some of my older coworkers (I'm fairly young and look younger - clients aren't always happy when someone younger than them enforces the rules). On the other side of the coin, I also tend to get more compliments/propositions from clients. It just feels weird to go to work where I may very well be proposed to and receive a death threat in the same shift 😛
 
I had to chase a guy down 2 flights of stairs at the Medical Center where I was a psych tech. We came out of the stairwell on 4 which was an empty floor at night (admin floor) so the only person there was a little old lady housekeeper. She ran away screaming and didn't even call anyone. I tackled the patient and waited for security to arrive to help me take him back up to the ward. It was like an episode of "Cops."

His Dx was Schizophrenia, Paranoid Type.
 
I had to chase a guy down 2 flights of stairs at the Medical Center where I was a psych tech. We came out of the stairwell on 4 which was an empty floor at night (admin floor) so the only person there was a little old lady housekeeper. She ran away screaming and didn't even call anyone. I tackled the patient and waited for security to arrive to help me take him back up to the ward. It was like an episode of "Cops."

His Dx was Schizophrenia, Paranoid Type.

I absolutely loathe chasing down patients. The neurorehab center I mentioned previously was in the middle of the woods on many, many acres of land. They'd get outside their cabins and make a run for it. It was a pain in the arse doing it over . . . and over . . . and over again. Unfortunately, most of my coworkers weren't so "in shape" to put it politely, so I usually ended up being the one to run after, tackle, & subdue the buggers long enough to get 'em transported back. 🙁 Weaving in & out of trees, leaping fences, & various other obstacles made me think I was training for something a bit more stringent than my position there.
 
I used to work with a man who had schizophrenia and a developmental disorder in a supported living program. After a verbal confrontation with him, he later asked me if he would go to prison or a state hospital if he killed somebody. Yeah....ask me if I slept well that night while I did the overnight-asleep at his house that evening.

-JR
 
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