Volunteering at Group Home for people with developmental disabilities-Clinical?

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I'm a bit unclear about the differentiation between clinical experience and non-clinical. I am planning on volunteering at a group home for people with developmental disabilities, helping them do everyday tasks and talking to them. Would this count as patient contact? Do these people count as patients even though it's not really a hospital setting?

In another program I am currently working at, I help people with brain damage in their everyday life. Again, this isn't at a hospital, so would this count as patient contact?

Thanks so much for your help!

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I currently work at a similar group home and I would say that it's clinical experience. My home is very medically involved and we basically act as CNAs. We do everything from showers and going to the mall to severe wound care. It's a really great experience and I love going to work, I hope you'll find it just as rewarding!
 
Most of my "clinical experience" was of this nature. I listed it as "non clinical volunteer work" on AMCAS just to be safe (health services were provided at these facilities but my work was not directly health related) but made sure to explain how it related to health in the activity explanation. I commented on the unique health challenges faced by these individuals during interviews as well. Good luck! 🙂
 
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When LizzyM comments on this, she'll say it's technically not clinical because it isn't a hospital or similar setting where you will have doctors and nurses. Even though they have disabilities, this is similar to taking care of a sick relative. Fantastic experience nonetheless, especially if you really enjoy it!
 
I wouldn't list this as a clinical experience. a clinical experience should be where you are working/interacting with people who are patients in that setting. most likely there will be doctors, PAs and nurses all working in that setting as well i.e. a hospital, a clinic, medical practice (physician private practice), hospice, certain mental health facilities - places like that

LizzyM says it counts as a clinical experience if you are working close enough with patients to be able to smell the patients. in this setting these people aren't patients, yes they are people with developmental disabilities, but that doesn't mean they are patients in every setting.

hope this helps! it's still an excellent EC experience to have!
 
Thanks so much for your input! Just one last thing - another volunteering possibility I am considering is at a treatment facility for mental illnesses. Since these people would be undergoing treatment, they would be considered patients, and therefore this would be a clinical experience, right?
 
Thanks so much for your input! Just one last thing - another volunteering possibility I am considering is at a treatment facility for mental illnesses. Since these people would be undergoing treatment, they would be considered patients, and therefore this would be a clinical experience, right?
yes but it also depends on what role you would have there. will you be interacting with the patients?
 
What if it is with a hospice?
 
There are a few different things that adcoms like to see:

That you have had some exposure to what physicians do and what other health care providers do in settings where people are receiving professional services for injuries, illnesses, or in the context of health promotion/disease prevention (such as vaccines and "check-ups" for babies). This experience might include shadowing, employment and/or volunteerism.

That you have had some experience dealing with people ... including people who are not like you due to their age, socioeconomic circumstances, culture, etc. This experience can come from employment or volunteerism. It can be clinical or non-clinical. Keep in mind that some people are patients during the moments when they are actively receiving treatment for a condition but they are always "people". You can learn a lot of people skills and a lot about the human condition by interacting with all kinds of people in their everyday lives whether you are working at a convenience store or a public library or a halfway house or a sandwich shop.

That you have had given of your time and talent to "repair the world", to be involved in community service to the needy. Most often this is going to start with volunteer service that is either clinical or non-clinical and might (in rare instances) expand to full-time service for which you are paid a stipend (e.g. City Year, Jesuit Service Corps, Peace Corps, etc).

That you have had experience training and leading members of a team toward a common goal. This can be in the context of a work setting or a volunteer program or club or organization.

Bottom line: the adcom asks itself: how has this person learned about what is involved in the career of doctoring? what does this person know about human nature and how to deal with people outside of their family or their comfort zone? does this person have a heart for service?
 
I'm a bit unclear about the differentiation between clinical experience and non-clinical. I am planning on volunteering at a group home for people with developmental disabilities, helping them do everyday tasks and talking to them. Would this count as patient contact? Do these people count as patients even though it's not really a hospital setting?

In another program I am currently working at, I help people with brain damage in their everyday life. Again, this isn't at a hospital, so would this count as patient contact?

Thanks so much for your help!

These are both GREAT activities that you should do/continue. However, you will want to do some "clinical" time in a hospital setting. As LizzyM mentioned below, they want to see that you understand what medicine is about and what a physician does as well as that you understand (to a limited degree) the roles of other professions in the clinical setting (which I have underlined). These opportunities lack that; HOWEVER, what they have is also important, such as the bolded in LizzyM's statement:

There are a few different things that adcoms like to see:

That you have had some exposure to what physicians do and what other health care providers do in settings where people are receiving professional services for injuries, illnesses, or in the context of health promotion/disease prevention (such as vaccines and "check-ups" for babies). This experience might include shadowing, employment and/or volunteerism.

That you have had some experience dealing with people ... including people who are not like you due to their age, socioeconomic circumstances, culture, etc. This experience can come from employment or volunteerism. It can be clinical or non-clinical. Keep in mind that some people are patients during the moments when they are actively receiving treatment for a condition but they are always "people". You can learn a lot of people skills and a lot about the human condition by interacting with all kinds of people in their everyday lives whether you are working at a convenience store or a public library or a halfway house or a sandwich shop.

That you have had given of your time and talent to "repair the world", to be involved in community service to the needy. Most often this is going to start with volunteer service that is either clinical or non-clinical and might (in rare instances) expand to full-time service for which you are paid a stipend (e.g. City Year, Jesuit Service Corps, Peace Corps, etc).

That you have had experience training and leading members of a team toward a common goal.(MAYBE) This can be in the context of a work setting or a volunteer program or club or organization.

Bottom line: the adcom asks itself: how has this person learned about what is involved in the career of doctoring? what does this person know about human nature and how to deal with people outside of their family or their comfort zone? does this person have a heart for service?


So basically, in the end, these activities are 2 for 3 (heart for service + dealing with people) but lack the clinical element.
 
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