WAG PTO changes

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hwks09 said:
Correct. Also no PTO if you're under 32 hours.
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any idea when the payout for our current banked PTO will be? Going forward with the new system, if we dont use up our PTO (i.e. end the year with more than the allowable 40 hours) will we be paid out or lose it?
 
PharmDminus said:
any idea when the payout for our current banked PTO will be? Going forward with the new system, if we dont use up our PTO (i.e. end the year with more than the allowable 40 hours) will we be paid out or lose it?
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Not sure. But it is walgreens so I'm leaning to lose it.
 
hwks09 said:
Not sure. But it is walgreens so I'm leaning to lose it.
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People will be livid if they don't pay it out - and the fact that we have been told that we can bank up to 150% of what we earn before we stop earning more PTO.

If they don't pay it out, surely they would give us a year to try to use it and not make us try to burn it until January? If not, the schedulers will have a million PTO requests for the end of the year.
 
drakegrad2011 said:
People will be livid if they don't pay it out - and the fact that we have been told that we can bank up to 150% of what we earn before we stop earning more PTO.

If they don't pay it out, surely they would give us a year to try to use it and not make us try to burn it until January? If not, the schedulers will have a million PTO requests for the end of the year.
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Policy starts 4/1/2020
 
drakegrad2011 said:
People will be livid if they don't pay it out - and the fact that we have been told that we can bank up to 150% of what we earn before we stop earning more PTO.

If they don't pay it out, surely they would give us a year to try to use it and not make us try to burn it until January? If not, the schedulers will have a million PTO requests for the end of the year.
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i believe 4/1/20 is the date this begins. They almost have to pay out what we currently have, there isnt enough staff to cover all those shifts. But once the new policy begins, i am guess we will lose anything over 40 hours at year end.
 
hwks09 said:
Policy starts 4/1/2020
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Good to know! Was this released to the store managers today or just the DMs? A number of times I've found info on here or Reddit and asked our manager about the new policies and he is always wondering were I got the information from haha.
 
drakegrad2011 said:
Good to know! Was this released to the store managers today or just the DMs? A number of times I've found info on here or Reddit and asked our manager about the new policies and he is always wondering were I got the information from haha.
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just DM so far
 
Wow no more than 1 week of PTO? My company lets me accrue 7.5 weeks of PTO and I get 5.5 weeks PTO per year.
 
Sorry to hear that. They are really trying to chip away at employee morale. Only carrying a week seems incredibly low for a professional position. It does not increase with years with the company?

Most health systems in my area allow for carrying 5-12 weeks of PTO
 
i still dont quite understand how paying out our banked PTO helps the company. It is to their benefit to have employees stockpile PTO days. Considering the company no longer gives raises, it is essentially an interest free loan the employees are giving them
 
PharmDminus said:
i still dont quite understand how paying out our banked PTO helps the company. It is to their benefit to have employees stockpile PTO days. Considering the company no longer gives raises, it is essentially an interest free loan the employees are giving them
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More people taking their PTO equals more shift to assign to the desperate new grads with 200K loans
 
So basically now until 4/2020, everyone must use up their saved PTO since only 40 hrs can be transfer over? Thats fine with me, but if say # of ppl requesting PTO won't they need to hire more pharmacists? In my area there is literally only 2 or 3 floaters left and that won't be enough to cover everyone's PTO. I guess it can be a good thing, more hours for floaters and more PTO for ppl like myself 🙂
 
shiba15 said:
So basically now until 4/2020, everyone must use up their saved PTO since only 40 hrs can be transfer over? Thats fine with me, but if say # of ppl requesting PTO won't they need to hire more pharmacists? In my area there is literally only 2 or 3 floaters left and that won't be enough to cover everyone's PTO. I guess it can be a good thing, more hours for floaters and more PTO for ppl like myself 🙂
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my guess is they will do a payout on the PTO we currently have. Some of us have 4-6 months of PTO/vacation. They would never be able to cover that many shifts
 
PharmDminus said:
my guess is they will do a payout on the PTO we currently have. Some of us have 4-6 months of PTO/vacation. They would never be able to cover that many shifts
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As long as we don't lose it after saving all that PTO. There is also the case with schedulers, i know my scheduler will never approve all my PTO days if I am to use it all up in a batch or spread out in a year.
 
shiba15 said:
So basically now until 4/2020, everyone must use up their saved PTO since only 40 hrs can be transfer over? Thats fine with me, but if say # of ppl requesting PTO won't they need to hire more pharmacists? In my area there is literally only 2 or 3 floaters left and that won't be enough to cover everyone's PTO. I guess it can be a good thing, more hours for floaters and more PTO for ppl like myself 🙂
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Imagine it being November with many people needs to use PTO or it will expire... I doubt there are enough floaters to cover those shifts... so most people will have PTO expire.
 
PharmDminus said:
i still dont quite understand how paying out our banked PTO helps the company. It is to their benefit to have employees stockpile PTO days. Considering the company no longer gives raises, it is essentially an interest free loan the employees are giving them
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if you have PDO in a bank - it shows up as a liability on the balance sheet.
Not saying I agree with the practice - it is pretty crappy of wags, but I see from a business side why they are doing it. They also probably hope there are more people that end up losing it bc they can't use it.
 
18 months before this policy kicks it. Anything can happen between now and then. Wouldn't worry too much about it right now.
 
VA77 said:
18 months before this policy kicks it. Anything can happen between now and then. Wouldn't worry too much about it right now.
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new policy just released. PTO rate cut for those with 25 years of service. Ouch
 
Confirmed.

Anyone under 30 hours will accrue no PTO.

Only 40 hours of PTO can be carried over.

Decreased PTO accrual for those with 15+ years.
 
Wow I didn't know they let PTO rollover. Had to use it all at CVS before year end otherwise they paid it out in Feb or so.
 
PharmDminus said:
new policy just released. PTO rate cut for those with 25 years of service. Ouch
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Thought policy didn't kick in till April 2020. Also how have they done the PTO of the RA employees they acquired?
 
VA77 said:
Thought policy didn't kick in till April 2020. Also how have they done the PTO of the RA employees they acquired?
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new PTO rates kick in 1/1/19. not sure a out RAD.

This is a tough pill to swallow for those of us wanting to go down to part time one day. Will earn zero PTO
 
25+ years? is there a tier at 25 years where you get more PDO?
 
CVS did a similar PTO restructuring some time ago.. They had allowed for a "grandfathering" period with people who had more than those hours, and that they allowed you to carry it over up until a specified date, you had to use your extra time (and cut it down to 40 hours to carry) by that date or lose it..
 
mentos said:
Wow I didn't know they let PTO rollover. Had to use it all at CVS before year end otherwise they paid it out in Feb or so.
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That's nice you have yours paid out... I am assuming at Walgreens people will just lose the PTO?
 
Positive change, evidently they are now giving 8 weeks full parental leave for new births or adoptions. I believe there used to be no leave for fathers.
 
drakegrad2011 said:
Positive change, evidently they are now giving 8 weeks full parental leave for new births or adoptions. I believe there used to be no leave for fathers.
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are they paying you for your time off or is it time off without pay?
 
Dred Pirate said:
are they paying you for your time off or is it time off without pay?
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100% pay for 8 weeks.

Mothers who give birth also get 6 weeks at 100% pay under the short term disability plan (used to be 2 wks 100% then 4 wks 50%) then 8 weeks of parental leave.
 
awval999 said:
FLMA would already cover unpaid paternity leave. Most US employees are eligible for 12 weeks of unpaid leave following the birth of a newborn.
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Looks like they have updated all the changes and policies on MyHR now and it does say 8 weeks of full pay for parental leave starting in 2019
 
That is truly a wonderful benefit by WAGs. And it may induce CVS, et al, to compete with similar.

My wife and I just had a baby this week. And I work for a large hospital health-system. And there is zero paternity leave. I just have to use my PTO. So I have enough for 2 weeks off.
 
California also has its own California Family Rights Act that allows "bonding leave" and often it doesn't need to overlap with FMLA (they are both 12 weeks max). I don't see companies rushing to give pregnant women up to 24 weeks of consecutive leave voluntarily.
 
awval999 said:
FLMA would already cover unpaid paternity leave. Most US employees are eligible for 12 weeks of unpaid leave following the birth of a newborn.
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paternity leave is not guaranteed by law and covered by FMLA
 
Dred Pirate said:
paternity leave is not guaranteed by law and covered by FMLA
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Paternity leave is covered by FLMA.

Family and Medical Leave Act - Wage and Hour Division (WHD) - U.S. Department of Labor

  • Twelve workweeks of leave in a 12-month period for:
    • the birth of a child and to care for the newborn child within one year of birth;
    • the placement with the employee of a child for adoption or foster care and to care for the newly placed child within one year of placement;
    • to care for the employee’s spouse, child, or parent who has a serious health condition;
    • a serious health condition that makes the employee unable to perform the essential functions of his or her job;
    • any qualifying exigency arising out of the fact that the employee’s spouse, son, daughter, or parent is a covered military member on “covered active duty;” or
  • Twenty-six workweeks of leave during a single 12-month period to care for a covered servicemember with a serious injury or illness if the eligible employee is the servicemember’s spouse, son, daughter, parent, or next of kin (military caregiver leave).
 
awval999 said:
Paternity leave is covered by FLMA.

Family and Medical Leave Act - Wage and Hour Division (WHD) - U.S. Department of Labor

  • Twelve workweeks of leave in a 12-month period for:
    • the birth of a child and to care for the newborn child within one year of birth;
    • the placement with the employee of a child for adoption or foster care and to care for the newly placed child within one year of placement;
    • to care for the employee’s spouse, child, or parent who has a serious health condition;
    • a serious health condition that makes the employee unable to perform the essential functions of his or her job;
    • any qualifying exigency arising out of the fact that the employee’s spouse, son, daughter, or parent is a covered military member on “covered active duty;” or
  • Twenty-six workweeks of leave during a single 12-month period to care for a covered servicemember with a serious injury or illness if the eligible employee is the servicemember’s spouse, son, daughter, parent, or next of kin (military caregiver leave).
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that is not what our HR told us -but I am not an expert.

edit - I found the reason - if both mother and father work for the same company -it is not guaranteed - that is what happened to my friend
 
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