Walgreens just made mass layoffs.

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The #2 employer of pharmacists just laid off several experienced/high earning pharmacists to replace with tech hours which will also be cut later. Look for CVS to follow. I hope a few pre pharms see this news before they censor this thread to the hidden forum.
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I don't know exactly how many, but I wouldn't be surprised. Also someone just reported a new grad got offered $45/hr. That's only $70,200 per year before taxes assuming 30 hours per week. Very hard to pay off $200,000 in loans on that salary.
 
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mentos said:
The #2 employer of pharmacists just laid off several experienced/high earning pharmacists to replace with tech hours which will also be cut later. Look for CVS to follow. I hope a few pre pharms see this news before they censor this thread to the hidden forum.
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No worries, there are plenty of industry, informatics and clinical jobs for everyone so this is an irrelevant discussion for most.
 
mentos said:
The #2 employer of pharmacists just laid off several experienced/high earning pharmacists to replace with tech hours which will also be cut later. Look for CVS to follow. I hope a few pre pharms see this news before they censor this thread to the hidden forum.
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Could you provide a source, I want to read more...thank you
 
mentos said:
I don't know exactly how many, but I wouldn't be surprised. Also someone just reported a new grad got offered $45/hr. That's only $70,200 per year before taxes assuming 30 hours per week. Very hard to pay off $200,000 in loans on that salary.
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I wouldn't be surprised if most graduates end up choosing to go on PAYE/REPAYE. Unless my fortunes change substantially in the near future, I know that's what I'll be doing.
 
LMAO this post didn't last long in the pre-pharm forum! Can't let them know the truth about the profession.
 
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especialty said:
I just graduated and was offered $49 a few months ago, and a few weeks before graduation was told it was now $46. This was for 32 hours guaranteed.
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Sheesh why would even accept an offer that low? Did you even try to negotiate? It's people like you who are part of the problem. Keep accepting lower and lower wages and they're just going to keep of dropping wages further and further. Have some balls and stand up for the profession. You Have a doctorate degree for Christ's sake, have some respect for yourself. You're really screwing things up for the rest of us
 
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Timbo said:
Sheesh why would even accept an offer that low? Did you even try to negotiate? It's people like you who are part of the problem. Keep accepting lower and lower wages and they're just going to keep of dropping wages further and further. Have some balls and stand up for the profession. Have a doctorate degree for Christ's sake, have some respect for yourself. You're really screwing things up for the rest of us
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I typically don't stand behind inflammatory comments like this, but I have to say that I agree that pharmacists in general need to have more backbone - myself included. That being said, in the current job market that we're in and the amount of student loan debt that they carry, any pharmacist is lucky to basically have any job. Maybe the most practical approach is to attempt a negotiation, accept a job at whatever you can negotiate to, and while you work that job keep an eye out for better opportunities.

Also, don't take any **** from corporate. When your shift is up, you leave. I've made it a personal rule to never leave more than 15 minutes after the end of my shift. Keep some documentation of your shifts - one thing I'm doing is print screening the numbers if I walk into a mess in the morning, so I have some evidence to back me up if I get accused of underperforming. It has saved me one time. I remember floating to a store, and I took screenshots of the numbers when I walked into a store one day with nearly 80 Rx's printed out and needed filling, and the regional manager happened to stop by the pharmacy later that day and saw the numbers. She did attempt to tell me how to do my job and basically accused me of underperforming "why aren't you verifying more scripts, it's not your job to answer phones", etc - I pulled out the screenshots and they basically had nothing more to say. She tried to downplay it, saying "I'm only trying to help you out.", etc.

Just don't let them get away with illegal ****, basically. Yes, we're gonna have to take some crap, but don't take any more than you have to.
 
Timbo said:
Sheesh why would even accept an offer that low? Did you even try to negotiate? It's people like you who are part of the problem. Keep accepting lower and lower wages and they're just going to keep of dropping wages further and further. Have some balls and stand up for the profession. Have a doctorate degree for Christ's sake, have some respect for yourself. You're really screwing things up for the rest of us
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Yeah he/she should turn down the job offer so thousands of other unemployed pharmacists can take it. That'll show them!
 
mentos said:
Yeah he/she should turn down the job offer so thousands of other unemployed pharmacists can take it. That'll show them!
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At least they'll keep their self-respect knowing that they didn't sell themselves short. Let the other thousands of pharmacists be ball-less suckers for accepting trash wages.
 
Timbo said:
At least they'll keep their self-respect knowing that they didn't sell themselves short. Let the other thousands of pharmacists be ball-less suckers for accepting trash wages.
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Pride/vanity certainly has its costs...

 
Timbo said:
Sheesh why would even accept an offer that low? Did you even try to negotiate? It's people like you who are part of the problem. Keep accepting lower and lower wages and they're just going to keep of dropping wages further and further. Have some balls and stand up for the profession. You Have a doctorate degree for Christ's sake, have some respect for yourself. You're really screwing things up for the rest of us
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You incorrectly made an assumption that I accepted the offer. I kept it on the backburner because in this market + this pandemic, I would rather have a job than let my bills go unpaid. Thankfully, I found a job in specialty with better QOL and better pay!
 
especialty said:
I know, I feel extremely lucky.
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I’m kinda LOLing cause of our names. I recently got a specialty job after being let go and was unemployed for 1.5 years. When they offered me the job, I was ready to say yes to whatever they offered me. But I decided to negotiate and got $2 more. I really like this setting so far. I hope you’re learning a lot. I definitely am
 
DH1987 said:
I typically don't stand behind inflammatory comments like this, but I have to say that I agree that pharmacists in general need to have more backbone - myself included. That being said, in the current job market that we're in and the amount of student loan debt that they carry, any pharmacist is lucky to basically have any job. Maybe the most practical approach is to attempt a negotiation, accept a job at whatever you can negotiate to, and while you work that job keep an eye out for better opportunities.

Also, don't take any **** from corporate. When your shift is up, you leave. I've made it a personal rule to never leave more than 15 minutes after the end of my shift. Keep some documentation of your shifts - one thing I'm doing is print screening the numbers if I walk into a mess in the morning, so I have some evidence to back me up if I get accused of underperforming. It has saved me one time. I remember floating to a store, and I took screenshots of the numbers when I walked into a store one day with nearly 80 Rx's printed out and needed filling, and the regional manager happened to stop by the pharmacy later that day and saw the numbers. She did attempt to tell me how to do my job and basically accused me of underperforming "why aren't you verifying more scripts, it's not your job to answer phones", etc - I pulled out the screenshots and they basically had nothing more to say. She tried to downplay it, saying "I'm only trying to help you out.", etc.

Just don't let them get away with illegal ****, basically. Yes, we're gonna have to take some crap, but don't take any more than you have to.
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thank you for this. Going to do this from now on.. Ill let corporate figure out how to do more with less and leave me alone to do my job which is patient safety and care. If they want to cut hours and cut help, they will get the quality of work that no tech hours gets you.
 
Ctrl + print screen is an excellent tool. I'm surprised some chains haven't blocked that function yet.

I mean Walmart gives asset protection computers Microsoft Office whereas all computers in the pharmacy have only the "viewers" installed
 
O.State said:
thank you for this. Going to do this from now on.. Ill let corporate figure out how to do more with less and leave me alone to do my job which is patient safety and care. If they want to cut hours and cut help, they will get the quality of work that no tech hours gets you.
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That's right. The main takeaway from my post is realize that the company sees you as easily replaceable, but make that as hard as possible for them. Do *only* what your job requires, but document everything you can, because they will find any excuse they can to fire you. Don't let them find an excuse.
 
DH1987 said:
That's right. The main takeaway from my post is realize that the company sees you as easily replaceable, but make that as hard as possible for them. Do *only* what your job requires, but document everything you can, because they will find any excuse they can to fire you. Don't let them find an excuse.
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Any newbee reading this should ax themselves...WHY would I want a career in such a miserable environment?
 
APN-59 rph said:
Any newbee reading this should ax themselves...WHY would I want a career in such a miserable environment?
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But I’m a special snowflake bro. I shine. I did all the clubs and all the things. I’ll get a super special clinical job in the middle of a hip city everyone wants to be In because everyone will recognize I’m a pharmacy snowflake!
 
projektreverb said:
But I’m a special snowflake bro. I shine. I did all the clubs and all the things. I’ll get a super special clinical job in the middle of a hip city everyone wants to be In because everyone will recognize I’m a pharmacy snowflake!
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Yes, you will! A part-time $30/hour job where the cost of living is even higher than your student loan debt! Hurray!
 
projektreverb said:
But I’m a special snowflake bro. I shine. I did all the clubs and all the things. I’ll get a super special clinical job in the middle of a hip city everyone wants to be In because everyone will recognize I’m a pharmacy snowflake!
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Little do they know that saturation is the mortal enemy that will melt all the snowflakes. Just think of all that body heat being generated when everyone's crowded in the same space...
 
PharmtoCS said:
We’ve been beating the drums on saturation for the last 10 years. Seems like there will be those who’ll remain in denial no matter what you tell them.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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I would be on denial too if I was the dean of a new school that just opened up lol
 
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