WAMC (First Time Applicant)

[Herzchen]

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[macsak]

Date of submission:
ALL TMDSAS SUBMITTED (7/31)
UT San Antonio
UT Houston
El-Paso
A&M
6 ADEA ADSAS SUBMITTED (8/1)
ATSMissouri
ATSArizona
LECOM
Meharry
Roseman
Touro
TMDSAS Overall GPA: 3.33
TMDSAS Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 3.38
My university GPA shows an upward trend.
Made Deans list at least 3 times
Post Bacc: DIY 4.0 (Ochem 1 & 2, Physics 1 & 2, Bio Chem Lab & Lec Recieved A in all classes)
DAT score (include AA and all sections): Taking the DAT end of August.
State of Residence: Texas (graduated in 2023) Indian Muslim
Major: Public Health B.S
Minor: Biology
Minority? No
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad? No
Shadowing Experience:
209 hrs shadowing generals and ortho
455 hrs working as DA
Volunteering Experience:
Volunteer hours ( for 5 years i worked my way up with the varying positions as assistant teacher, teacher, staff member, student council mentor to assistant principle at a religious education school ): 1,806 hrs
Non-Profit Clinic: 312 hrs
Non-Profit Dental Office: 312 hrs
Miscellaneous (Community Service): 803 hrs
Leadership (school and community) : 200+ hours
Employment:
-Restaurant Manager: Recruited employees, managed hours, built and sent out promotions for marketing purposes and worked on financial reconciliations.
-Tutor: 40+ elementary & high school students across various subjects.
-Swim Instructor: conducted one on one swim lessons tailored to students.
-Dental Assistant: worked at the front desk dealing with insurance and patient scheduling and signing them in for about 4 months. Then I worked in the back bringing in patients, taking vitals, sterilizing, assisting the dentists, taking x-rays etc.
-Internship at a non-profit hearing institute (not paid): worked on a major community outreach project with the audiologist and assistant director of the institute. shadowed audiologists and ENT doctors. Did some hands on work with the audiology assistants.
-Planned and hosted an oral health workshop at my religious center with the support of two dentists who spoke on the importance of oral hygiene. I was responsible for organizing the event, coordinating logistics.
-Worked with Afghani Refugees within my Community to help them with daily tasks
Research: No research
Other Extracurriculars:
-Choreographer Bollywood Fusion Dance (2500+ hrs)
-Graphic Designing (65+ hrs)
-Indoor Bouldering, Weightlifiting (1650+ hrs)
Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools?
No
LOR type and strength:
Biochemistry Lab Prof (Mid)
Physics Prof (Mid)
Dentist shadowed: (strong)
Director of Education Board: (Strong)
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags:
My Application is heavily focused on serving underserved communities (I haven't listed all the details of community volunteer services but hours are shown). My essay and activity descriptions tie in very well with everything. I liked the way my app turned out.
Scared that I might not have a chance at getting in due to my gpa but I really want to do my best to get in anywhere I have a chance. This DAT is my last shot at really boosting my app and covering up for such a low gpa.
- Will I have to do a Masters because of this GPA? And is that the only way I can improve my app?
School list:
(I have listed all the schools I've already applied to above, however I haven't submitted these remaining schools below. Please let me know if there's any schools I should definitely remove from my list based off my stats, or if there's any schools that I should include that will most likely look at my app and consider me as a good candidate for their dental school.
-BU GSDM DMD
-California Northstate University
-Herman Ostrow School (ik this school is a reach, but it's my dream school and I wanted to take my chances anyway, but if this definitely not a school that would except me then I will remove it)
-Lincoln Memorial
-Midwestern Illinois
-Midwestern Arizona
-NYU
-Detroit Mercy
-New England
-Pacific Arthur A. Dug.

we really cannot say without a DAT, but in general, USC is not a reach, but UOP is...

 

[Mr.Smile12]

Where did you do your postbac courses?

I would hope you find success in Texas... if you don't blow that DAT.

 

[Herzchen]

Where did you do your postbac courses?

I would hope you find success in Texas... if you don't blow that DAT.

Did my post bac at scuhs accelerated online for bio Chem and lonestar for physics and ochem

 

[Herzchen]

Date of submission:
ALL TMDSAS SUBMITTED (7/31)
UT San Antonio
UT Houston
El-Paso
A&M
6 ADEA ADSAS SUBMITTED (8/1)
ATSMissouri
ATSArizona
LECOM
Meharry
Roseman
Touro
TMDSAS Overall GPA: 3.33
TMDSAS Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 3.38
My university GPA shows an upward trend.
Made Deans list at least 3 times
Post Bacc: DIY 4.0 (Ochem 1 & 2, Physics 1 & 2, Bio Chem Lab & Lec Recieved A in all classes)
DAT score (include AA and all sections): Taking the DAT end of August.
State of Residence: Texas (graduated in 2023) Indian Muslim
Major: Public Health B.S
Minor: Biology
Minority? No
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad? No
Shadowing Experience:
209 hrs shadowing generals and ortho
455 hrs working as DA
Volunteering Experience:
Volunteer hours ( for 5 years i worked my way up with the varying positions as assistant teacher, teacher, staff member, student council mentor to assistant principle at a religious education school ): 1,806 hrs
Non-Profit Clinic: 312 hrs
Non-Profit Dental Office: 312 hrs
Miscellaneous (Community Service): 803 hrs
Leadership (school and community) : 200+ hours
Employment:
-Restaurant Manager: Recruited employees, managed hours, built and sent out promotions for marketing purposes and worked on financial reconciliations.
-Tutor: 40+ elementary & high school students across various subjects.
-Swim Instructor: conducted one on one swim lessons tailored to students.
-Dental Assistant: worked at the front desk dealing with insurance and patient scheduling and signing them in for about 4 months. Then I worked in the back bringing in patients, taking vitals, sterilizing, assisting the dentists, taking x-rays etc.
-Internship at a non-profit hearing institute (not paid): worked on a major community outreach project with the audiologist and assistant director of the institute. shadowed audiologists and ENT doctors. Did some hands on work with the audiology assistants.
-Planned and hosted an oral health workshop at my religious center with the support of two dentists who spoke on the importance of oral hygiene. I was responsible for organizing the event, coordinating logistics.
-Worked with Afghani Refugees within my Community to help them with daily tasks
Research: No research
Other Extracurriculars:
-Choreographer Bollywood Fusion Dance (2500+ hrs)
-Graphic Designing (65+ hrs)
-Indoor Bouldering, Weightlifiting (1650+ hrs)
Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools?
No
LOR type and strength:
Biochemistry Lab Prof (Mid)
Physics Prof (Mid)
Dentist shadowed: (strong)
Director of Education Board: (Strong)
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags:
My Application is heavily focused on serving underserved communities (I haven't listed all the details of community volunteer services but hours are shown). My essay and activity descriptions tie in very well with everything. I liked the way my app turned out.
Scared that I might not have a chance at getting in due to my gpa but I really want to do my best to get in anywhere I have a chance. This DAT is my last shot at really boosting my app and covering up for such a low gpa.
- Will I have to do a Masters because of this GPA? And is that the only way I can improve my app?
School list:
(I have listed all the schools I've already applied to above, however I haven't submitted these remaining schools below. Please let me know if there's any schools I should definitely remove from my list based off my stats, or if there's any schools that I should include that will most likely look at my app and consider me as a good candidate for their dental school.
-BU GSDM DMD
-California Northstate University
-Herman Ostrow School (ik this school is a reach, but it's my dream school and I wanted to take my chances anyway, but if this definitely not a school that would except me then I will remove it)
-Lincoln Memorial
-Midwestern Illinois
-Midwestern Arizona
-NYU
-Detroit Mercy
-New England
-Pacific Arthur A. Dug.

Should I apply to the remaining schools? Retake my DAT? Are there schools that I should take off from my list 100%? Are there any other schools that I should apply to that would maybe consider me?

 

[macsak]

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Thought my scores were going to be better. I don’t know what to do anymore. I was really hoping to get in this year. Regardless of what school I get into.

you pretty much have only 2 choices
a retake means you have to wait 60 days, and that would put you really late in the cycle
plus you need to significantly increase your scores, which is not an easy task
you could apply to as many privates as you can afford, including the new schools (skipping UOP and the ivies), right now and take your chances
the other choice is to just see how this cycle goes without adding, retake next year and apply at the beginning of next cycle

 

[Herzchen]

you pretty much have only 2 choices
a retake means you have to wait 60 days, and that would put you really late in the cycle
plus you need to significantly increase your scores, which is not an easy task
you could apply to as many privates as you can afford, including the new schools (skipping UOP and the ivies), right now and take your chances
the other choice is to just see how this cycle goes without adding, retake next year and apply at the beginning of next cycle

If I retake my DAT would they not look at my current application?

I’m just confused on how this works. I was thinking about going through with the exam in 60 days, but not stating that I’m going retake it on my application so they don’t put my application on hold.

I wanted to take it soon since the material is fresh in my memory.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

If I retake my DAT would they not look at my current application?

I’m just confused on how this works. I was thinking about going through with the exam in 60 days, but not stating that I’m going retake it on my application so they don’t put my application on hold.

I wanted to take it soon since the material is fresh in my memory.

At this point, the schools will likely review your application with your scores in hand. The Texas timeline is a little faster than the AADSAS timeline given the smaller number of schools and the matching process. You should run with what you have and trust the process. An interview invitation for December offers should occur before November 1 (for an interview occurring before Thanksgiving), and most people on the forums will say there are no pre-December interviews once you hit September-October (they are filling spring or waitlisting in case anyone drops before December... which seldom happens).

 

[macsak]

If I retake my DAT would they not look at my current application?

I’m just confused on how this works. I was thinking about going through with the exam in 60 days, but not stating that I’m going retake it on my application so they don’t put my application on hold.

I wanted to take it soon since the material is fresh in my memory.

if you do not tell them you are retaking, they will look at your application once they receive your DAT scores
you do run the risk of getting rejected before your new DAT though...