WAMC Nontrad (26-27)

[Witland]

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Date of submission: Upcoming cycle (June 4th 2026)
Overall GPA: 3.5

• Undergrad (2018): 3.3
• Postbacc (2025): 4.0

Science GPA: 3.5

• Undergrad (2018): 2.5
• Postbacc (2025): 4.0

(GPA may be somewhat ballpark)

Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 3.5

• Undergrad (2018): 2.5
• Postbacc (2025): 4.0

DAT score (include AA and all sections): 510 BIO; 560 CHEM; 600 OCHEM; 510 RC; 590 QR (550 AA 560 TS) 530 PAT
State of Residence: NY

Major: Economics
Minor: English
Minority? No
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad? Yes

Shadowing Experience: 319 hrs general dentistry
Volunteering Experience: 50 hrs food bank (looking for more)
Employment:

• 5 years full time SaaS enterprise relationship management (CCM/billing/government primarily insurance + utilities)+ongoing internal consultancy role
• 660 hrs dental assisting, currently employed and able to go full time

Research: Undergrad poster research
Other Extracurriculars: Hours and type; includes athletics, military, leadership, etc.
Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? None at this point aside from online events
Relevant Honors or Awards: Dean's list the last few semesters of college and recognition + bonus from work
LOR type and strength: Committee (2x dentist, 3x professor, 1x former VP 1x former director, strong)
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags:

• Low simultaneous course load in postbacc; didn't have 3+ science courses per semester
• Few high level electives; just microbiology (I used up all my finaid and am paying pocket a la carte)
• Postbacc consists of retakes and is at a less prestigious school

School list:

1. Moonshots: Harvard/UPenn/Columbia
2. Goals: Stonybrook/Buffalo: In state
3. Tranche 1 OOS public schools: Rutgers: proximity
4. Tranche 2 OOS Public schools: Appreciate recommendations in this category
   1. UConn, UMaryland, VCU (Proximity)
   2. UTennessee (local connections)
5. Tranche 1 private schools: NYU/Touro/Temple/Pittsburgh: Proximity + connections
6. Tranche 2 private schools:
   1. Tufts, Case Western, Creighton
   2. UD Mercy (willing to go to the Vermont location)
   3. Meharry (local connections)
7. New schools: NEOMED/LMU

 

[macsak]

Date of submission: Upcoming cycle (June 4th 2026)
Overall GPA: 3.5

• Undergrad (2018): 3.3
• Postbacc (2025): 4.0

Science GPA: 3.5

• Undergrad (2018): 2.5
• Postbacc (2025): 4.0

(GPA may be somewhat ballpark)

Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 3.5

• Undergrad (2018): 2.5
• Postbacc (2025): 4.0

DAT score (include AA and all sections): 510 BIO; 560 CHEM; 600 OCHEM; 510 RC; 590 QR (550 AA 560 TS) 530 PAT
State of Residence: NY

Major: Economics
Minor: English
Minority? No
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad? Yes

Shadowing Experience: 319 hrs general dentistry
Volunteering Experience: 50 hrs food bank (looking for more)
Employment:

• 5 years full time SaaS enterprise relationship management (CCM/billing/government primarily insurance + utilities)+ongoing internal consultancy role
• 660 hrs dental assisting, currently employed and able to go full time

Research: Undergrad poster research
Other Extracurriculars: Hours and type; includes athletics, military, leadership, etc.
Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? None at this point aside from online events
Relevant Honors or Awards: Dean's list the last few semesters of college and recognition + bonus from work
LOR type and strength: 2x dentist, 3x professor, 1x former VP 1x former director, strong
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags:

• Low simultaneous course load in postbacc; didn't have 3+ science courses per semester
• Few high level electives; just microbiology (I used up all my finaid and am paying pocket a la carte)
• Postbacc consists of retakes and is at a less prestigious school

School list:

1. Moonshots: Harvard/UPenn/Columbia
2. Goals: Stonybrook/Buffalo: In state
3. Tranche 1 OOS public schools: Rutgers: proximity
4. Tranche 2 OOS Public schools: Appreciate recommendations in this category
   1. UConn, UMaryland, VCU (Proximity)
   2. UTennessee (local connections)
5. Tranche 1 private schools: NYU/Touro/Temple/Pittsburgh: Proximity + connections
6. Tranche 2 private schools:
   1. Tufts, Case Western, Creighton
   2. UD Mercy (willing to go to the Vermont location)
   3. Meharry (local connections)
7. New schools: NEOMED/LMU

how did you come up with this school list?
are you aware that meharry is an HBCU?

 

[Witland]

how did you come up with this school list?
are you aware that meharry is an HBCU?

Meharry - no, I wasn't; dropped
School list reasoning: as remarked, in state preference followed by proximity. Creighton isn't close but I happened to speak to an admissions counselor and had a very positive experience.
Would appreciate the most input on OOS public options.

 

[macsak]

Meharry - no, I wasn't; dropped
School list reasoning: as remarked, in state preference followed by proximity. Creighton isn't close but I happened to speak to an admissions counselor and had a very positive experience.
Would appreciate the most input on OOS public options.

you get interview invites and acceptances from having mission fit with schools...

 

[macsak]

Date of submission: Upcoming cycle (June 4th 2026)
Overall GPA: 3.5

• Undergrad (2018): 3.3
• Postbacc (2025): 4.0

Science GPA: 3.5

• Undergrad (2018): 2.5
• Postbacc (2025): 4.0

(GPA may be somewhat ballpark)

Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 3.5

• Undergrad (2018): 2.5
• Postbacc (2025): 4.0

DAT score (include AA and all sections): 510 BIO; 560 CHEM; 600 OCHEM; 510 RC; 590 QR (550 AA 560 TS) 530 PAT
State of Residence: NY

Major: Economics
Minor: English
Minority? No
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad? Yes

Shadowing Experience: 319 hrs general dentistry
Volunteering Experience: 50 hrs food bank (looking for more)
Employment:

• 5 years full time SaaS enterprise relationship management (CCM/billing/government primarily insurance + utilities)+ongoing internal consultancy role
• 660 hrs dental assisting, currently employed and able to go full time

Research: Undergrad poster research
Other Extracurriculars: Hours and type; includes athletics, military, leadership, etc.
Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? None at this point aside from online events
Relevant Honors or Awards: Dean's list the last few semesters of college and recognition + bonus from work
LOR type and strength: 2x dentist, 3x professor, 1x former VP 1x former director, strong
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags:

• Low simultaneous course load in postbacc; didn't have 3+ science courses per semester
• Few high level electives; just microbiology (I used up all my finaid and am paying pocket a la carte)
• Postbacc consists of retakes and is at a less prestigious school

School list:

1. Moonshots: Harvard/UPenn/Columbia
2. Goals: Stonybrook/Buffalo: In state
3. Tranche 1 OOS public schools: Rutgers: proximity
4. Tranche 2 OOS Public schools: Appreciate recommendations in this category
   1. UConn, UMaryland, VCU (Proximity)
   2. UTennessee (local connections)
5. Tranche 1 private schools: NYU/Touro/Temple/Pittsburgh: Proximity + connections
6. Tranche 2 private schools:
   1. Tufts, Case Western, Creighton
   2. UD Mercy (willing to go to the Vermont location)
   3. Meharry (local connections)
7. New schools: NEOMED/LMU

i recommend you research LOR requirements at schools
sounds like you have too many...

 

[Witland]

i recommend you research LOR requirements at schools
sounds like you have too many...

I should have mentioned this is going into a committee letter. Edited.

 

[macsak]

I should have mentioned this is going into a committee letter. Edited.

ok, thanks

 

[macsak]

Date of submission: Upcoming cycle (June 4th 2026)
Overall GPA: 3.5

• Undergrad (2018): 3.3
• Postbacc (2025): 4.0

Science GPA: 3.5

• Undergrad (2018): 2.5
• Postbacc (2025): 4.0

(GPA may be somewhat ballpark)

Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 3.5

• Undergrad (2018): 2.5
• Postbacc (2025): 4.0

DAT score (include AA and all sections): 510 BIO; 560 CHEM; 600 OCHEM; 510 RC; 590 QR (550 AA 560 TS) 530 PAT
State of Residence: NY

Major: Economics
Minor: English
Minority? No
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad? Yes

Shadowing Experience: 319 hrs general dentistry
Volunteering Experience: 50 hrs food bank (looking for more)
Employment:

• 5 years full time SaaS enterprise relationship management (CCM/billing/government primarily insurance + utilities)+ongoing internal consultancy role
• 660 hrs dental assisting, currently employed and able to go full time

Research: Undergrad poster research
Other Extracurriculars: Hours and type; includes athletics, military, leadership, etc.
Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? None at this point aside from online events
Relevant Honors or Awards: Dean's list the last few semesters of college and recognition + bonus from work
LOR type and strength: Committee (2x dentist, 3x professor, 1x former VP 1x former director, strong)
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags:

• Low simultaneous course load in postbacc; didn't have 3+ science courses per semester
• Few high level electives; just microbiology (I used up all my finaid and am paying pocket a la carte)
• Postbacc consists of retakes and is at a less prestigious school

School list:

1. Moonshots: Harvard/UPenn/Columbia
2. Goals: Stonybrook/Buffalo: In state
3. Tranche 1 OOS public schools: Rutgers: proximity
4. Tranche 2 OOS Public schools: Appreciate recommendations in this category
   1. UConn, UMaryland, VCU (Proximity)
   2. UTennessee (local connections)
5. Tranche 1 private schools: NYU/Touro/Temple/Pittsburgh: Proximity + connections
6. Tranche 2 private schools:
   1. Tufts, Case Western, Creighton
   2. UD Mercy (willing to go to the Vermont location)
   3. Meharry (local connections)
7. New schools: NEOMED/LMU

did you calculate retake gpa with replacement or by keeping both attempts?

 

[Witland]

did you calculate retake gpa with replacement or by keeping both attempts?

Calculated by keeping both attempts; my understanding is that the GPA I had never goes away.

 

[macsak]

Calculated by keeping both attempts; my understanding is that the GPA I had never goes away.

correct
just making sure...

 

[macsak]

correct
just making sure...

congrats on the awesome DAT score and postbacc grades
for sure you need to up your volunteering hours
i would try and see if you can schedule a meeting with admissions at your IS publics and any other target schools...

 

[Mr.Smile12]

How many credit hours comprise your postbac GPA? What did you take?

I'm a little confused with the absence of the Boston University. UNE is also in the Northeast, though I also presume a potential yield protect possibility... but if you're willing to go to Detroit/Vermont...

I don't think either NEOMED or LMU are good fits unless you grew up in rural New York (not close to the Tri-State area).

 

[Witland]

congrats on the awesome DAT score and postbacc grades
for sure you need to up your volunteering hours
i would try and see if you can schedule a meeting with admissions at your IS publics and any other target schools...

Thank you!

I will be trying to add another 30 hours by submission day and updating hours over the remainder of the year while going to a full time schedule at work; I would love to hear additional recommendations.

How many credit hours comprise your postbac GPA? What did you take?

I'm a little confused with the absence of the Boston University. UNE is also in the Northeast, though I also presume a potential yield protect possibility... but if you're willing to go to Detroit/Vermont...

I don't think either NEOMED or LMU are good fits unless you grew up in rural New York (not close to the Tri-State area).

Postbac GPA consists of 54 hours
BCPOchem 2 semesters each, Microbiology, Biochemistry, Calc 1 and 2, 2x english classes

(The last 4 are entirely for the SUNYs because my prereqs all expired)​

​

BU: "2 additional BCP, not used to satisfy other requirements" not satisfied
UNE: A&P not satisfied, additional upper level coursework not satisfied

A lot of prior advice I received suggested that taking the extra time and $ to add specific prereqs, unless I very specifically want to go to a school (i.e. IS) was not too valuable so I followed a pretty barebone electives set.

NEOMED/LMU: No, I grew up fairly urban; I suppose these are highly rural-focused?

Appreciate your input and thank you for your help.
Best,​

 

[macsak]

Thank you!

I will be trying to add another 30 hours by submission day and updating hours over the remainder of the year while going to a full time schedule at work; I would love to hear additional recommendations.

i recommend you look at schools where you have mission fit...