Guy the other night in discord from Kaplan wanted to retake a 518 saying basically, "his ego couldn't handle..." am pretty sure everyone tuned out and it didn't end well for him. I doubt it would end well for you either.
Hubris is not welcomed from what I've heard even at the top 10 and that 516 is plenty fine coupled with everything else you have.
My bad, I actually meant whether you thought my application was competitive enough for Top 20. But yeah, I agree.
Retaking a 516 would get you rejected at a lot of schools (like gyngyn's) for poor both hubris and poor choice making.Hey guys,
Currently applying; have submitted all secondaries I intend to. I would like advice for Top 20, WAMC.
Undergrad Top 10
cGPA 3.70 (3.95, 3.88, approximately 3.5, approximately 3.5) (got lazy...)
MCAT 516 ...
Clinical Volunteering 520
Clinical Shadowing 115
Regular Volunteering 150
I'm asking because I'm considering whether to retake the MCAT September. I am pretty confident that I can get a significantly higher score. But, because many schools seem to take primary consideration for the most recent score, it comes at a risk.
Interesting question, but I would appreciate if you could start a different thread if you have your own question. Thread's closed, thanks.Suppose our hero retook his 516 - and raised his score ten points, earning a 526. Would his retake still be seen as an act of hubris, even if he had a dramatic performance increase to back it up? Is the only thing that can justify retaking a strong score like that expiration because you decided on the Peace Corps or military service?
Suppose he throws on a year of postbacc to show he's serious, earns a 4.0, and retakes the MCAT for a 523+ score...Might he then have good chances at top 20s?Retaking a 516 would get you rejected at a lot of schools (like gyngyn's) for poor both hubris and poor choice making.
Your MCAT isn't going to save a downward GPA trend. Adcoms will get worried that you'll just get lazy in med school, which will be a lot harder than UG.
I suggest the following:
Uniformed Services University/Hebert (just be aware of the military service commitment)
Your state school(s).
Any DO school.
Suppose he throws on a year of postbacc to show he's serious, earns a 4.0, and retakes the MCAT for a 523+ score...Might he then have good chances at top 20s?
Yeah - our guy might have better luck if he did Peace Corps or Teach for America after his 4.0 postbacc and stellar MCAT.No, the MSAR shows that plenty of students with OP's stats get in to, say, Harvard. At that level, there are intangibles and unique experiences that set them apart from the pack. Some of these experiences were begun in childhood (a friend at Harvard played for the Cleveland Philharmonic starting from age 15) and some of these experiences are simply one in thousands (Rhodes, Marshall, Fulbright, etc). These experiences and credentials are in limited quantity, hence sought after by top schools. Most people that apply to med school already have a 3.8+ (it's not special) and most people have a great MCAT (again, this is not special). Those things simply place you in line for A medical school, not the creme de la creme