WAMC (Two low MCAT Scores)

[Khanwar]

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Really confused about what schools to apply to because Im scared of my two low scores. Thank you so much in advance!
Here are my stats:
cGPA: 3.89 sGPA: 3.84
1st MCAT: 504
2nd MCAT: 498
3rd MCAT: 515
Main Extracurricular
200 hrs shadowing diff physicians
Presented poster board on medically related research: 100-150 hrs
Taught underprivileged private school for a year
1000+ hrs comm service
I am a reapplicant and am Asian so not URM.


I am a Fl resident so I will be applying to all Fl schools of course. Looking for other schools private or public that are not crazy expensive.
Please help me @Goro @Faha

 

[Faha]

In addition to all your Florida schools I suggest these OOS schools:
Tufts
Vermont
Quinnipiac
Hofstra
Seton Hall
Drexel
Temple
Jefferson
George Washington
Eastern Virginia
Wake Forest
Oakland Beaumont
Western Michigan
Medical College Wisconsin
Rosalind Franklin
Loyola
TCU-UNT

 

[Khanwar]

Wow Thank you so much, Ill look into those now!
Also What do you think about
Rush
Emory
Warren Alpert at Brown
(and big reach)- Icahn mnt sinai

@Faha

 

[Goro]

Really confused about what schools to apply to because Im scared of my two low scores. Thank you so much in advance!
Here are my stats:
cGPA: 3.89 sGPA: 3.84
1st MCAT: 504
2nd MCAT: 498
3rd MCAT: 515
Main Extracurricular
200 hrs shadowing diff physicians
Presented poster board on medically related research: 100-150 hrs
Taught underprivileged private school for a year
1000+ hrs comm service
I am a reapplicant and am Asian so not URM.


I am a Fl resident so I will be applying to all Fl schools of course. Looking for other schools private or public that are not crazy expensive.
Please help me @Goro @Faha

I am being conservative; being a 3x MCAT taker is ared flag, even witht he 515 score. Still, a 515 is nothing to sneeze at.

200 hrs shadowing is overkill. No other clinical experiences? if not, that's lethal.

I recommend:
Rochester (maybe)
Pitt (maybe)
U VM
Tufts
George Washington
Georgetown
SLU
Albany
Rush
Rosy Franklin
NYMC
MCW
VCU
EVMS
Wayne State
Wake Forest
Netter
Jefferson
Temple
Drexel
Creighton
Tulane
Loyola
Uniformed Services University/Hebert (just be aware of the military service commitment)
Oakland-B
Seton Hall
TCU/UNT

ALL FL schools

Any DO program. I can't recommend Touro-NY, Nova, Wm Carey, LUCOM, for different reasons. MSUCOM? Read up on Larry Nasser and you decide. LMU has an accreditation warning, which concerns me. CalHS is too new and has a too small a rotations base, it seems.

 

[Kardio]

Really confused about what schools to apply to because Im scared of my two low scores. Thank you so much in advance!
Here are my stats:
cGPA: 3.89 sGPA: 3.84
1st MCAT: 504
2nd MCAT: 498
3rd MCAT: 515
Main Extracurricular
200 hrs shadowing diff physicians
Presented poster board on medically related research: 100-150 hrs
Taught underprivileged private school for a year
1000+ hrs comm service
I am a reapplicant and am Asian so not URM.


I am a Fl resident so I will be applying to all Fl schools of course. Looking for other schools private or public that are not crazy expensive.
Please help me @Goro @Faha

Just curious OP - did you take your second MCAT immediately after the first one (with little prep in-between)?

 

[907914]

2nd MCAT: 498
3rd MCAT: 515

3X retake red flag aside, I just want to jump in here and way to ****ing go!!! You jumped 44 percentile points! That is ****ing awesome! Killing it!!!!!!!

 

[candbgirl]

You need clinical experience other than shadowing. You have enough shadowing as long as some of the 200 hours includes shadowing a primary care doc. What did your 1000 hours of community service consist of?

 

[Faha]

Wow Thank you so much, Ill look into those now!
Also What do you think about
Rush
Emory
Warren Alpert at Brown
(and big reach)- Icahn mnt sinai

@Faha

You would need significant clinical volunteering or employment for Rush (hundreds of hours). The others are reaches but it is OK to have some reaches.

 

[BoolaHI]

Curious to the folks who advised OP to apply at GW, with about a 1 percent admission and typically one of the most applied schools to in the nation, average gpa is 3.74 and Mcat 513....can you explain the rationale?

 

[Faha]

Curious to the folks who advised OP to apply at GW, with about a 1 percent admission and typically one of the most applied schools to in the nation, average gpa is 3.74 and Mcat 513....can you explain the rationale?

They receive 13,400 application and 9,000 to 10,000 completed applications (secondaries and all fees submitted). 1,100 are interviewed (the number offered interviews would be at least 1,300). A greater than 10% chance for an interview are good odds. 350 of those interviewed are eventually offered acceptances. OP's GPA and MCAT are both above the median.

 

[candbgirl]

They receive 13,400 application and 9,000 to 10,000 completed applications (secondaries and all fees submitted). 1,100 are interviewed (the number offered interviews would be at least 1,300). A greater than 10% chance for an interview are good odds. 350 of those interviewed are eventually offered acceptances. OP's GPA and MCAT are both above the median.

So the fact that OP is a three time MCAT taker doesn’t matter? So averaging multiple MCATS is not an issue or only at GW?

 

[BoolaHI]

Yes, that was my same hesitation and pause, as I have been told by actual deans of admissions, that 3 MCAT attempts, regardless of score, raises an asterisk on the applicant.....

 

[BoolaHI]

And the number I read for the number of applicants in 2018 was closer to 15,000....

 

[Faha]

And the number I read for the number of applicants in 2018 was closer to 15,000....

13,400 for last year according to MSAR data.

 

[Faha]

So the fact that OP is a three time MCAT taker doesn’t matter? So averaging multiple MCATS is not an issue or only at GW?

I do not know if GW averages MCAT scores. There may be up to 10,000 completed applications but that includes applicants with sub 3.4 GPA's and sub 505 MCAT scores who are very unlikely to be offered an interview. So the realistic interview pool may only be 7,000. OP has a realistic chance for an interview with a GPA of 3.89 and a most recent MCAT of 515.

 

[BoolaHI]

Sorry, I was looking at an older figure that cited George Washington University (14,509 applicants). That said, good luck to the OP.

 

[candbgirl]

I do not know if GW averages MCAT scores. There may be up to 10,000 completed applications but that includes applicants with sub 3.4 GPA's and sub 505 MCAT scores who are very unlikely to be offered an interview. So the realistic interview pool may only be 7,000. OP has a realistic chance for an interview with a GPA of 3.89 and a most recent MCAT of 515.

Thanks for explaining that.

 

[Khanwar]

So I am encountering this question quite a lot on my secondaries. Do you guys think I should speak about my multiple MCAT scores or just leave it. I have no such difficulties on my transcript.

If you have experienced academic difficulties, please explain the situation and how it was resolved. (Please explain all grades less than a "B", including B-, or any "withdrawal" on your transcripts).
@Goro @Faha


My second MCAT was taken a two years later while I juggled work and school. It wasnt the smartest thing to do I do admit. @Kardio
My community service hours consisted of service to URM and refugee aid @candbgirl

 

[Faha]

So I am encountering this question quite a lot on my secondaries. Do you guys think I should speak about my multiple MCAT scores or just leave it. I have no such difficulties on my transcript.

If you have experienced academic difficulties, please explain the situation and how it was resolved. (Please explain all grades less than a "B", including B-, or any "withdrawal" on your transcripts).
@Goro @Faha


My second MCAT was taken a two years later while I juggled work and school. It wasnt the smartest thing to do I do admit. @Kardio
My community service hours consisted of service to URM and refugee aid @candbgirl

You do not need to discuss your MCAT scores in your secondaries. If it comes up in interviews you can explain the situation then.

 

[candbgirl]

Your community service is good. Look for some clinical experience with direct patient contact.

 

[Dr.TexPhD]

Really confused about what schools to apply to because Im scared of my two low scores. Thank you so much in advance!
Here are my stats:
cGPA: 3.89 sGPA: 3.84
1st MCAT: 504
2nd MCAT: 498
3rd MCAT: 515
Main Extracurricular
200 hrs shadowing diff physicians
Presented poster board on medically related research: 100-150 hrs
Taught underprivileged private school for a year
1000+ hrs comm service
I am a reapplicant and am Asian so not URM.


I am a Fl resident so I will be applying to all Fl schools of course. Looking for other schools private or public that are not crazy expensive.
Please help me @Goro @Faha

First off, Congrats!!! That score and jump on MCAT is amazing. Second, You will get in to medical school....believe me you will....if you have the heart and compassion and most of all are passionate about medicine then you will have a chance. You just have to make sure that the application reflects your passion.
I took MCAT 3 times and ended up with a 498 and got into medical school this round to a mid-tier level medical school. If it helps give you context I have 3.7 undergrad GPA and a PhD in molecular medicine (did my studying while defending my dissertation so that contributed to low MCAT).

The question you have to ask yourself is: are you willing to apply to low and mid tier medical schools for both allopathic and osteopathic medical schools? If the answer is yes, then you will get in. Don't limit yourself to top-tier schools....at the end of the day every medical student studies the same content and takes the same board exams and if you havent heard there is now a unified graduate medical education system so there is no more separation post medical school between MD and DO (they are identical with the only difference being the added OMM studies for DOs).

Your major draw back is your race....it sucks but that's the truth...don't worry about the 3X MCAT...I would look at those schools that do holistic reviews and concentrate more on the applicant rather than on race and ethnicity....look at schools that accept more than 5% Asian

Be confident, you'll be a great physician one day.

-Dr.TexPhD