Warning dont go to OHSU

[Dental81]

Dont consider going we have lost 5 people from our class 2 transfers two held back and one kicked out her senior year, youve been warned....

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[Drill Doc]

Dont consider going we have lost 5 people from our class 2 transfers two held back and one kicked out her senior year, youve been warned....

This happen at my school also. 3 dropouts after 1st year. One of those students was given the chance to repeat year 1 but declined. 1 held back 2 semesters due to excessive clinic absences (s/he was going through a messy divorce). No one kicked out senior year. I imagine there had to be a pretty good reason. At least I hope.....🙁

I have heard a lot of horror stories on this topic, but many times the whole story isn't heard.

Share your stories all...

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[KOM]

We've lost 2.

 

[servitup]

We lost a few along the way and picked up more than a few from the class ahead of us. Welcome to dental school. It isn't easy and it's not supposed to be.

 

[schwing]

so is OHSU worse than other schools?

 

[apaul]

take this with a grain of salt... could just be someone who is on the waitlist at OHSU and is hoping this post will cause them to decline and go elsewhere so the OP can get in, etc.

my personal experience at OHSU wasn't the best, of all my interviews, the students there seemed the glum-est, just my viewpoint.... everyone needs to decide whats best for themselves

 

[airsimon]

You know it's funny... at my interview at OHSU my two DS3 lunch buddies said they would not reccommend the school either because there wasn't much the school offered besides a degree. They talked about people being held back and whatnot for the dumbest things.
In the end I made my decision to attend OHSU because of location. It is much closer to home (and my wife's parents... even more important) than Indianapolis. I know I'm gonna have to bust my butt to keep up with the class and not get held back and/or get kicked out.

 

[ldsmbhc]

You know it's funny... at my interview at OHSU my two DS3 lunch buddies said they would not reccommend the school either because there wasn't much the school offered besides a degree. They talked about people being held back and whatnot for the dumbest things.
In the end I made my decision to attend OHSU because of location. It is much closer to home (and my wife's parents... even more important) than Indianapolis. I know I'm gonna have to bust my butt to keep up with the class and not get held back and/or get kicked out.

I still don’t understand why a dental school would want to kick people out or hold them back. From my understanding they loose money this way and get a bad reputation at the same time. My school will bend over backwards to make sure you pass everything. With very few exceptions, the only reason what a student ends up not completing the curriculum is because they really don’t care.

 

[Aceofspades]

I still don't understand why a dental school would want to kick people out or hold them back. From my understanding they loose money this way and get a bad reputation at the same time. My school will bend over backwards to make sure you pass everything. With very few exceptions, the only reason what a student ends up not completing the curriculum is because they really don't care.

How can a school lose money from holding a student back or kicking them out? They still get the tuition/fees paid in full and nonrefundable. Holding someone back will make them spend 5 years instead of 4 and will net the school another year of tuition. Assuming schools make a net gain for every dental student, they cannot possibly lose money directly from holding a student back. They may lose money form kicking a student out, only if they kick the student out in the middle of the year and cannot replace the seat.

The school may lose money in the long run through a bad reputation and resentment from students who turn into alumni and don't donate. However, I think this loss would be marginal.

Overall, I just have a hard time seeing schools losing money. They could always just raise tuition if anything goes awry and students would pay it, no questions asked. Many people see it as monopoly money or will justify the tuition/fees increase by saying "I'll make it back once I graduate anyway." In addition, dental school admittance is very competitive and will not decrease even in the face of increasing tuition. Just look at some of the most expensive dental schools and how many applications they get per year.

 

[phremius]

How can a school lose money from holding a student back or kicking them out? .....

The school lose money when a student is not retained because potential production of that person in the clinic is lost.

 

[ItsGavinC]

The school lose money when a student is not retained because potential production of that person in the clinic is lost.

I wouldn't say that dental students working in the clinic is a big source of income for most dental schools.

 

[ldsmbhc]

They may lose money form kicking a student out, only if they kick the student out in the middle of the year and cannot replace the seat.

Except for rare circumstances I do not see how a dental school can replace a student at the end of any school year. It is probably more difficult to find a transfer student or a foreign student to replace the one that is not meeting their requirements. Unfortunately what you are saying about raising tuition with students paying no questions asked is somewhat true. At the same time when a dental school's tuition is substantially higher then others, then the school will be less appealing to the applicants. Unless they have a good reason for the difference in fees (location, non-subsidized, quality of facilities/instructors, etc), the quality of students entering will go down.

 

[Aceofspades]

Except for rare circumstances I do not see how a dental school can replace a student at the end of any school year. It is probably more difficult to find a transfer student or a foreign student to replace the one that is not meeting their requirements. Unfortunately what you are saying about raising tuition with students paying no questions asked is somewhat true. At the same time when a dental school's tuition is substantially higher then others, then the school will be less appealing to the applicants. Unless they have a good reason for the difference in fees (location, non-subsidized, quality of facilities/instructors, etc), the quality of students entering will go down.

It's easy to replace a student at the end of a school year. Just accept one more. If a school normally accepted 75 students, all they would have to do is accept 76 to make up for the lost seat. International students, and previously dismissed students may also be up for grabs in that situation. And as for a school being less appealing... maybe but people will still line up at the door. Think of all the people who are rejected each year. The reapplicants, post-bacc, etc. I'm sure they would rather go to the most unappealing dental school than not go at all. If the dental school is unappealing enough, students might just reapply hoping to get into a better school, but there are a good number of 2x or more reapplicants who would just accept any offer. As long as a school has accreditation, it will have a constant supply of applicants and money.

 

[MONKEYBOY]

Three of my friends graduated dental school there and I never heard one complaint. Honestly, sometimes you get a batch of students and a lot fail out. Committees and folks(?) watch for longer overall trends and averages. People have unexpected things like pregnanciew, lawsuits, family things, accidents, and the myriad of other human dealings that take us away from studying. OHSU was sortof my dream school, but I am going elsewhere since I didn't get in to OHSU : (

To get this out there ... my take on most profs is that 95% are un-employable people who are living off of a welfare system funded my the public (i.e., school).

With how the government functions...

I doubt the profs or school really care, though I hope they care. Decisions on how well they are paid are usually made at levels much higher up on the food chain.

Most I have met are most interested in making sure payday is still on Friday (and the catering the student fees pay for).

 

[dentalstudent22]

Dont consider going we have lost 5 people from our class 2 transfers two held back and one kicked out her senior year, youve been warned....

Where did these two people from OHSU transfer to?

 

[pntbutter]

Dont consider going we have lost 5 people from our class 2 transfers two held back and one kicked out her senior year, youve been warned....

this sounds horrible. What kind of reasons would cause a student to be held back or kicked out during their last year? There are definitely power tripped, unfair instructors in dental school, but I don't see how the good ones would just sit and watch students get kicked out or held back without reason. And I thought that transferring d-schools was impossible/very difficult to do?

 

[pntbutter]

It's easy to replace a student at the end of a school year. Just accept one more. If a school normally accepted 75 students, all they would have to do is accept 76 to make up for the lost seat. International students, and previously dismissed students may also be up for grabs in that situation. And as for a school being less appealing... maybe but people will still line up at the door. Think of all the people who are rejected each year. The reapplicants, post-bacc, etc. I'm sure they would rather go to the most unappealing dental school than not go at all. If the dental school is unappealing enough, students might just reapply hoping to get into a better school, but there are a good number of 2x or more reapplicants who would just accept any offer. As long as a school has accreditation, it will have a constant supply of applicants and money.

if a school were to accept an extra student for the incoming class, they'd need to have an extra lab station in preclinic to accomodate the student as well.

 

[SugarNaCl]

Yeah VCU lost 2 as well. Big deal.

 

[blankguy]

If a school loses people don't they fill them up by accepting transfers or international dentists?😕

 

[ldsmbhc]

If a school loses people don't they fill them up by accepting transfers or international dentists?😕

I have heard this was possible but then again it might be a bunch of crud. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[aggie-master]

If a school loses people don't they fill them up by accepting transfers or international dentists?😕

In San Antonio, our second year seems to be the year that gives people the most trouble. If they kick you out then, I don't think they mind one bit because they bring in a bunch of foreign trained dentists to join your class in the clinics for third year.

If you kick one DS2 out, then you just let one more foreign trained dentist in to the group joining the class in the third year, and since we are talking about money, I think the foreign trained dentists pay higher tuition than local students.

btw, I'm not saying that they are out to get us or trying to kick us out like the OP says about that other school... I'm just pointing out that kicking someone out probably doesn't hurt the school as much as some people think.

 

[Dr2BSoon]

We had 3 girls drop out our DS1 year, and they added 12 or so foreign students this year.

I guess losing people is something that happens at most schools.

 

[SugarNaCl]

If a school loses people don't they fill them up by accepting transfers or international dentists?😕

Yeah from the 2 that left our class, VCU picked up one transfer from NOVA I believe. He already finished his D-2 year, but will have to repeat it at VCU.

 

[pietrodds]

At MD class 2004, we had 12 not go on to 3rd year and 6 of them failed out altogether. We had one radiology exam that over half the class failed and they used it to dismiss whomever they didn't like. It's just one of the crappy things that goes on in dental school. Don't make enemies in dental school is the moral of the story... fly under the radar!

It's just a big game and most schools are pretty much the same as all the faculty are pooled from the small number of dentists(often inept, but there are a few truly dedicated ones despite the low pay) willing to work in a dental school. Just buck up and get through it! Manage your time well and don't take faculty criticism to heart... and definitely don't ruffle faculty feathers.

 

[Turnerjo13]

I would agree that there are some faculty that are on a power trip and there are faculty that are only there because they are not good enough to be in private practice. I have heard of a few students being held back or kicked out and the reasons are usually because they don't have the clinical or hand skills necessary for dentistry. The person also probably pissed off a professor too.

 

[blankguy]

I guess the safest thing to do is to mind your own business and focus on doing well in class. 😕

 

[bass for less]

take this with a grain of salt... could just be someone who is on the waitlist at OHSU and is hoping this post will cause them to decline and go elsewhere so the OP can get in, etc.

my personal experience at OHSU wasn't the best, of all my interviews, the students there seemed the glum-est, just my viewpoint.... everyone needs to decide whats best for themselves

Talking about conspiracy theory...

 

[apaul]

Talking about conspiracy theory...

Yes.... they are out to get me, and my magic bag