WashU Anesthesia residency

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I am 3rd year DO student who recently became interested in anesthesiology. I am new on this forum and i would like some advice and opinion about Wash u program. It is program i'm most interested in due to location. I looked on their website and there are no DOs in class, i'm not sure if they took any in the past, or if they offer interview to DOs.
My stats are decent:

USMLE 1: >250
COMLEX 1:>700
Rank: top 5
Couple publications as a 3rd author

Thanks!

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I am 3rd year DO student who recently became interested in anesthesiology. I am new on this forum and i would like some advice and opinion about Wash u program. It is program i'm most interested in due to location. I looked on their website and there are no DOs in class, i'm not sure if they took any in the past, or if they offer interview to DOs.
My stats are decent:

USMLE 1: >250
COMLEX 1:>700
Rank: top 5
Couple publications as a 3rd author

Thanks!

I can tell you that your numbers would be on par with current WashU residents, and that a lot of the residents came from lesser known medical schools. Thirdly, there is at least one DO attending who is very strong, and did a fellowship here. Obviously, the only way you'll really know is to apply, but I don't think you have to worry 🙂
 
Thank you for encouraging words 🙂
Any DOs on here that interviewed there?
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Do an away rotation... the best thing you can have is someone who knows you who can advocate for you, better than any USMLE score
 
Thanks for the advice,but that might be a problem because on VSAS it says only MD for visiting students. I guess i will try to contact them just to make sure.
 
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Would anybody that matched at Washu in St Louis mind PM their stats so I can kind of know what to expect.

Thank you.

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If they don't allow DO students to rotate there, then I would doubt there openness to matching one.

not true. Miami doesnt allow DOs to rotate, very DO friendly for matching. UF now charges $800 per week for DO rotation, very DO friendly matching.
 
Can any residents comment on workload, caseload, and moonlighting? Resident happiness? St. Louis in general? thanks
 
I trained at Wash U and firmly recommend it. IT IS NOT A LIFESTYLE PROGRAM. I worked very hard but it was worth it. It's the kind of place where a Christmas call shift could yield two liver transplants and a lung transplant! It happened to me my third year. The peds experience is awesome and you will work hard there too. Critical care, trauma and cardiac are all very strong.

The bottom line is I work at a level two with a heart program, busy OB and a fair amount of peds. Not once have I feel unprepared since leaving WashU. Another positive is the department has very stable leadership - Dr Evers is a phenomenal chairmen. You see him starting to matriculate chairs to other big departments throughout the country - Dr Hill at Emory. Dr Wall will be a chair soon I'm sure. In my opinion whatever your career aspirations you want to be at a place like that.

As far as STL it's a fun city. I actually loved it. Lots of cool neighborhoods and good bars. I love sports, playing poker and golf. I could do all three when I had time. Its no NYC or Boston but its way more affordable than those places as a resident. I was very happy with my choice. Good luck.
 
Can any current Wash U resident or interviewee comment on a few things for me? I interviewed with the program earlier in the year and have forgotten some details. Feel free to elaborate on other things that you feel are important or you liked/disliked.

What is the call schedule like on general OR months?
What is the most grueling call schedule of the curriculum?
What are average work hours and what time do you usually get out for the day?
How many weekends a month do you typically work?
Hows is the relationship with the surgery department?
It didn't feel like a stuffy academic environment during my interview day. Does it feel like that to a working resident?

I liked the program a lot and still have a good feeling about. I realize that Wash U is not a lifestyle program. However, I value my time outside of the hospital quite a bit…
 
If location is your primary motivation, then St. Louis has three anesthesiology programs. 2 MD and 1 DO. Washington University, Saint Louis University, and the DO program at Des Peres hospital. Saint Louis University is DO friendly.
 
If location is your primary motivation, then St. Louis has three anesthesiology programs. 2 MD and 1 DO. Washington University, Saint Louis University, and the DO program at Des Peres hospital. Saint Louis University is DO friendly.

Maybe I should have started a new thread…I bumped an older one that had some WashU info in it already. Do you have any knowledge on my questions by chance?
 
In general, call at WashU averages 1x/week. Avg 2 weekend days per month, usually on different weekends. General OR avg probably 60-65hrs/wk. Relationship with the surgery department on a day to day basis is fine. For the most part, very pleasant mid-west surgeons and surgical residents.

Caseload is a highlight of the program, as Hockeyguy mentioned. I too have had calls with multiple transplants. It's hard to imagine a better overall caseload, but I assume most large academic centers should offer something similar so I'll leave it at that. I would echo Hockeyguy's overall perception of the program, but I don't feel like we're worked that hard at all. Everything is relative I guess. We're probably middle of the road in terms of workload, but there are a lot of us who'll stay to finish a difficult case rather than dump it on our relief. And a few of the craziest moments I've had have been in otherwise boring cases. Balance is important to all of us, but I urge you not to sacrifice your training or become that guy that's watching the clock every day. No one wants to be co-residents or eventually partners with that person.

As Hockeyguy predicted, Dr. Wall has become chair at UMinnesota. Another faculty member, Dr. Crowder, has accepted the chair position at UWashington (So that's chairs at Emory, UMinn, UWash in the last 3 yrs -- makes for some nice connections). A few more have similar potential. So it's a successful academic environment which does color our daily practice (in the sense that there is plenty of daily discussion/journal clubs on recent literature) but I wouldn't call it stuffy, as everyone is very friendly and research isn't pushed on you if you're not into it.

Glad you liked the program when you visited. You'd get great training in a fun city.
 
thanks for the informative response, i really appreciate it.

i didn't mean to give the impression that i was watching the clock. i just really value work-life balance and want to have that as much as is possible during residency. i also want to be trained well and i expect to work hard. thanks again.
 
Can any recent residents comment on their experiences at WashU?
 
Thanks for the advice,but that might be a problem because on VSAS it says only MD for visiting students. I guess i will try to contact them just to make sure.
I know this is no longer relevant to you, but just thought I'd put this out there for others interested. If, as a DO student, you receive an invitation from a WashU School of Medicine faculty member to rotate there, the WUSM curriculum office will send you a paper application to fill out (after they verify with the faculty member that you were indeed invited). That faculty member does not have to be in the department where you want to rotate.

Another thing, there are now 2 DO's in WashU's anesthesia program. Both from Kirksville. Both will be CA2's this summer! I also know at least 1 DO student that interviewed at their program last year. So it's not unattainable.
 
I know this is no longer relevant to you, but just thought I'd put this out there for others interested. If, as a DO student, you receive an invitation from a WashU School of Medicine faculty member to rotate there, the WUSM curriculum office will send you a paper application to fill out (after they verify with the faculty member that you were indeed invited). That faculty member does not have to be in the department where you want to rotate.

Another thing, there are now 2 DO's in WashU's anesthesia program. Both from Kirksville. Both will be CA2's this summer! I also know at least 1 DO student that interviewed at their program last year. So it's not unattainable.

The midwest is relatively friendly to DOs from what I hear
 
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