What a loser; I even got rejected for a volunteer position

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  1. Dr. Josh

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    Wow, I applied for a job at a camp with HIV kids. I had terrific LORs, some clinical experience, experience with kids and I still got rejected. This doesn't sound too promising when I actually apply for a paying job or med school. I can't even work for nothing. I'm really bummed out now.:(
     
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    It is no big deal. Look for another one. Also, try to brush up how HIV is actually transmitted: through sexual intercourse and needle sharing but not through kissing, spitting, etc. You will be surprised how many people seriously don't know this FACT
     
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    When I applied to a clinical research volunteer position at my school, I was rejected the first time. Then I tried again and was accepted. I know friends who applied 3 or 4 times. Looking back, interviewing and applying to paid and volunteer positions helped me prepare for medical school interviews (at which I have done pretty well) Cheer up! This is but a small bump in the road. Treat it as a good learning experience.
     
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    HIV is still present in spit and sweat but not enough to transmit the disease.
     
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    well...it's been my experience that if a volunteer position is that competitive (so from a big organization, well advertised, lots of bureaucracy etc.)...you probably wouldn't have been doing anything significant anyway (i.e. the people who took your spot just wanted to put "HIV camp" on their resume with minimal work) - very good chance it's not the case here...but anyway if it'll cheer you up think that :laugh:

    there are probably loads of smaller groups working with that community, and you can even start your own..you'll probably get way more experience
     
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    It's probably the best thing that could of happened given what you were volunteering to do. Cheer up and try looking at the positive side of things (pun entirely intended). :laugh:
     
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    Sigh...can't go five minutes in a thread without the riff raff surfacing. :barf:
     
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    I once tried to get a job that the PI's high-school aged son was doing. I had just gotten my bachelors and was starting my masters.

    They rejected me because I didn't have a masters degree yet.
     
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    Actually i would have worked directly with the children 24/7. I'm already looking for something else but I'm still really disappointed.

    Thanks for all the efforts to cheer me up.:thumbup:
     
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    When working with children they are a little more stringent and less accepting. Plenty of qualified people get turned down. Forget the kids and work elsewhere, they already have people beating down their doors to help as you can see.
     
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    Its a pity you aren't in Florida because I think it sounds like something like Camp Boggy Creek would be an awesome volunteer position for you to work with disabled children as well as children suffering different terminal illnesses.

    Chin up. This was one opportunity in many and I'm sure you'll find something else.
     
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    Now if only someone could please tell that to Bill Frist and the Religious Right. :mad:
     
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    Camp Boggy Creek, oh yea I remember that one when i did a search for camps with sick children.
     
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    omg.. if you have failed, I am probably the biggest loser in the world (i got rejected from nearly 5 job/volunteer positions in 2 years of undergrad)
     
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    I tried to volunteer at a local hospital.. and was rejected post-interview.
     
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    Bill Frist has probably forgotten more about medicine than you will ever know. Have you considered that?

    Aeiii! The big, bad religious right is coming for you! Run! Run away! Tighten yer' tinfoil hat! Stockpile yer' porn and your condoms!
     
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    Good Lord. It can't be long now before the whole crazy system of medical school admission collapses in on itself from the gravitational pull of its own stupidity and forms an absurdity singularity.

    You have to get letters of recommendation and have clinical experience to be a camp counselor at a camp for a bunch of snot-nosed kids?

    Amazing.
     
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    Would you give somebody you knew to have HIV an open-mouthed kiss (if you were dating, I mean)?
     
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    Weird... When I applied to work at this same kids camp they asked me this very question: "Would you give somebody you knew to have HIV an open-mouthed kiss?" I gladly answered yes. I don't know why I they didn't give me the job...
     
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    Also, what is the point of this thread? Do you have a question or do you just want someone to pat you on the back for trying to help kids with HIV?
     
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    *sigh* We can't go five minutes without the holier than thou, "You couldn't pull a sewing needle out of our asses with a John Deere" faction chiming in...... :laugh: ;)
     
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    I'm just curious to know what made you feel like you had to give him that piece of advice about what to brush up on...while it is important people undertand that, I am baffled b/c it is not directly relevant to the topic at hand
     
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    Don't feel bad I tried to get a volunteer position at Unite for Sight a couple of years ago (giving out glasses to homeless people) and they told me to reapply when I have more clinical experience. :rolleyes:
     
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    i probably had one of the most horrible experience with volunteering. when I was in high school, i used to volunteer at a local hospital. There was this mean woman who used to tell what to do as if we were her servants. The sad part is, she was also at the university hospital where i volunteered in my senior year of college. She was very anal about things. What happened was, since i was working 3 hour and 40 or 50 minutes instead of 4 hours, she thought i was not committed. She told me i had to drop out of the program. I just hope she doesn't follow me to a medical school. that would be really really horrible.
     
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    whatever I heard you can get it from sharing a soda pop!
    actually that is a poor joke, from a sex ed video we had to watch in 5th grade or something like that...

    and fyi, you could theoretically infect yourself with another persons spit (meaning you can isolate enough virus from this amount to technically be virulent) if you swallowed something on the order of 8 liters of saliva... just a little food for thought :oops:

    but yeah, what did that original comment have to do with anything?

    -oh and i wouldnt feel too bad, camps can have a lot of people applying for positions, and you never know what it is they need... maybe they have enough guys for now, etc... anyhow i volunteer at times as a counselor and have interviewed others for the spot, and you could be passed over for a lot of reasons
     
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    Develop some think skin. So you got rejected from a volunteer position. BIG DEAL! Pick up your chin, put a smile on that face and get looking for other posibilities. Or you can put your chin down, cry all day and all night, don't study for your classes, and don't bother putting any effort into anything again. :D
     
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    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-H1fM-f1l8[/YOUTUBE]

    I just had to share this...... :smuggrin: It's so appropriate to the thread ;)
     
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    Hes got the aids.......:laugh:
     
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    personally i think family guy is hilarious
    personally i also think that joking about kids with aids and/or calling them 'snot-nosed kids' should be grounds for being sent directly to the seventh circle of hell
    enjoy your trip guys

    and panda bear - camps have to make people fill out apps, etc BECAUSE of the stupid admissions process, because there are people out there who are just looking for an app booster (op not saying this is you, there are other reasons they may not have taken you)... so you have an application process to make sure that the camp counselors will be good with kids, especially kids in a delicate health situation... is that so much to ask?
     
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    "It looks like we've got a winner Tom"
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    Seth McFarland was supposed to be on one of the flights that hit the WTC. Too bad he missed it.
     
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    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_jCsPgMH8g[/YOUTUBE]

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    apparently he has aids.
     
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    If at first you don't succeed, try and try again.
     
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    What an elaborate insult. I didn't watch the video but I assume its very stimulating like the rest of your posts. :sleep:
     
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    Sure. Why the hell not.

    And if my bf somehow got HIV (without cheating on me/doing drugs/some other deal-breaker - which is admittedly incredibly unlikely), then I would also have sex with him as long as we used condoms.

    A lot of people are HIV+/HIV - couples and they make it work.
     
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    The guy isn't saying that he's applying for a job to cure AIDS. He's just volunteering for a job to work with kids who have it... you know, maybe bring a little bit of happiness into their lives. That's actually a good thing.
     
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    Nah, that comment was directed at Nutster, not the OP. My only problem with the OP is that he seems to be WAY too hard on himself.
     
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    Maybe if I was married, but not if I was dating. There's too many fish in the ocean.
     
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    Eh, I love him, will probably marry him, and I cannot imagine hurting him by accompanying his HIV diagnosis with "I'm breaking up with you".
     
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    What's that expression? Oh yes, rat off a sinking ship......in fact, I'd be out of there so fast that the rats would look at one another and go "Damn, that guy's fast....."

    Rule #1: Your life before anyone else's.
     
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    Yeah thats not my rule #1. Besides, I don't think staying with an HIV+ person is a death sentence.
     
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    Neither is living next to an Union Carbide plant in India, but accidents happen.* Why take the risk if you don't have to?



    *-Google "Bhopal" if you don't get the reference
     
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    So as long as I'm not an idiot - I'll be fine. The minute risk is worth the relationship to me.

    Its like driving - sure I MIGHT die in an accident - but the small risk is worth the convenience of getting to where I need to go.
     
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    yes, an application with many short essays, list of clinical activites, 3 LORs, and an interview and they still rejected me.
     
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    I just was stating my disappointment and thought if anyone had ideas of other things i could do or how next time i can be a stronger applicant, they'd comment. also i wanted to see if it was any indication of my outcome in applications to med school. if you want to pat me on the back...well don't bother because i didn't get the position. :(
     
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    If you read one of my posts from yesterday you'd see i'm already looking for something else. I guess I'm now concerned I'm not qualified to do anything evenly remotely related to medicine.
     
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    There wass a reason why STDs were one of the reasons for divorce in most states before "no fault" divorces (which by the way is the most redundant term ever) became common. If I were you and my partner came up positive, I'd leave a "Dear John Holmes" letter or divorce papers stuck to the front door with a 14 gauge needle. Like a viral version of Martin Luther and his theses..... :laugh:

    "Roses are red,
    violets are blue,
    your test came back positive,
    so find someone else to screw."
     
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    thank you; that's exactly it and I'm really disappointed not to get that opportunity now.
     
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    :laugh: I lol'd but I'm glad I'm not dating you. I'd rather be with someone who would stay with me during the hardest thing that ever happened to me.
     

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