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MisterJ4729

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Hello,


I graduated with a BS in Biology. My science GPA was a 2.32 but I just completed 87 credits with 4.0 in upper level undergrad science and math courses, got a 35 on my MCAT, have experience in various labs, and over 200 hours of volunteer experience. Do I have a shot at an allopathic MD school?
 
Hello,


I graduated with a BS in Biology. My science GPA was a 2.32 but I just completed 87 credits with 4.0 in upper level undergrad science and math courses, got a 35 on my MCAT, have experience in various labs, and over 200 hours of volunteer experience. Do I have a shot at an allopathic MD school?

Not without some major repair of that sGPA. Most allopathic schools will not even look at your application unless you can pull that up to around a 3.0, at least. Your MCAT and ECs all sound good, but unfortunately that is really going to be a deal breaker.

Luckily, there are a number of post-bacc programs out there available to help repair low UG GPAs. It will take at least a couple of years of A's to get your GPA to a reasonably competitive level, but if medicine is definitely what you want to do, go for it and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
 
I think his/her sGPA is just under 3.0. That is an amazing turn around in GPA though.

OP, what is your overall, combined GPA, with all your courses included?
 
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Hey Milkman, does your assistant mod designation give you the power to put posts in their own thread? Niiiiiice.
 
I think his/her sGPA is just under 3.0. That is an amazing turn around in GPA though.

OP, what is your overall, combined GPA, with all your courses included?

Actually, I think the total science GPA is a lot higher than 3.0, as I probably made an incorrect assumption about total (science) semester hours prior to the additional 87 credits. We need more information to correctly counsel the original poster.
 
Sorry about the confusion everyone. Let me break it down:



After graduating college my GPA statistics were as follows:


Science GPA: 2.32
Non-Science GPA: 2.71
Cummulative GPA: 2.46


I went on to take 87 credits of upper level biology, chemistry, and some math courses. Afterwards my GPA was:

Science GPA: 3.14
Non-Science GPA: Still 2.71
Cummulative GPA: 3.04

I realized that after I graduated that there was nothing else I wanted to do with my life expect practice medicine. Stopped working full-time, moved back home with the rents, worked in an invitrofertilization lab for a couple years on the weekends(worked in a HLA typing lab for 2 years before that), and sacrificed a lot to repair the damage I did as an undergrad. I was fortunate to earn a 35 on the MCAT as well as perform many hours of volunteer service. I'm close to being 30 now and I'm really hoping I did enough( short of doing an SMP program) to earn some respect in the eyes of an admissions comittee of an allopathic medical school. I really have no idea what else to do. To be honest, I feel regardless of what people might say, that I am a lot better off now than how I was back when I was 27(before I started this trek). If anything this will help open doors for me in any type of graduate education I pursue if Med School doesn't work out. However, I did all this to get into medical school. Any words of advice you could offer would be greatly appriciated!


Thanks to Everyone who has responded thus far and those who will hopefully respond after reading this...
 
I think your MCAT of 35 and outstanding laboratory experience will get your application a more careful lookover by some schools, who will then notice your amazing upward grade trend. Your GPA is very low but it's obvious you have what it takes to do well in medical school. Hopefully, your volunteerism provided clinical experience (meaning face-to-face patient interaction). Frankly, 200 hours is not that much. It looks best if there is some consistency and longevity among your experiences, especially considering your age. I expect you have a wealth of other interesting non-medical experiences that will give depth and richness to your application.

Automatic screening cut offs will keep you from being considered by many schools. You need to apply to those that are known for looking at the whole application, not just the numbers. Your list should include DO, as well as MD schools.

To test the waters, I'd suggest you call the admissions office of your state med schools and one or two preferred others, ask to make an appointment to speak to a dean, and present your situation. See if they are encouraging or discouraging. The one school I can think of that looks at the whole candidate is Rosalind Franklin in Illinois. There are others.

I do think you have a chance at an MD school acceptance. I think you're a shoo-in for a DO school acceptance. Aside from the above factors, you'll need a compelling Personal Statement, great Letters of Recommendation, and terrific interview skills. And you should not apply until early next season, in June 09, so your application will get the best possible consideration. Meanwhile continue with gaining clinical experience, including shadowing a few physicians. After all you've done, you wouldn't want adcomms to pass you by solely because they didn't think you were sufficiently aware of what being a doctor is all about.
 
I know this sounds dumb....but what are some schools that look at the whole application? Is the only way to find out to email them and ask?
 
I looked through some old posts and found these other suggestions: Drexel, Tulane, E Virginia. Jefferson. Look for more ideas in the Non-traditional forum (I didn't look there yet), where folks are usually older, at http://forums.studentdoctor.net/forumdisplay.php?f=110. Hopefully, others will chime in too. With research, I.m sure you can come up with a list here on SDN.
 
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