what are my chances?

[outsidechance]

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I am an International applicant and was rejected from most schools pre interview back home. I am seriously considering the USA. I thought Id ask if people could point me in the right direction for what US schools to apply to.

the low down:

My cgpa is 3.89 ish (science/non science will be very similar)
MCAT 11/8/12/Q

Non trad, best 2 year gpa is closer to 4.0 bombed my first year of undergrad so theres definitely an upward trend. I also only have 3 years of 9 courses and two half terms of 4/5 courses. I was an international level competitive athlete during my undergrad hence the reduced course load. I have loads of EC's however, I have very minimal research experience.

Any suggestion for schools to apply to? do I have a shot at mid tier schools with an 8 in verbal?

 

[Catalystik]

As an international applicant, the 8 VS will hurt you. So will a "very minimal research experience" for MD schools. DO med schools schools remain an option, and there are some less selective US MD schools that consider internationals.

For each US school's policy on taking internationals, see: http://www.naahp.org/resources_InternatMed_Article_June09.htm

Use an MSAR to sort out those that are less selective and have a VS bottom tenth percentile at or below an 8.

 

[outsidechance]

As an international applicant, the 8 VS will hurt you. So will a "very minimal research experience" for MD schools. DO med schools schools remain an option, and there are some less selective US MD schools that consider internationals.

For each US school's policy on taking internationals, see: http://www.naahp.org/resources_InternatMed_Article_June09.htm

Use an MSAR to sort out those that are less selective and have a VS bottom tenth percentile at or below an 8.

Thanks for the response catalystik, what would be considered good research experience, a third author publication or better? and when u say "hurt" does that mean basically a Zero chance of getting in? I would just like to know my realistic odds...

 

[Catalystik]

Opinions vary on what entails a "good" research experience. One year is the average for American applicants. Two years is more typical of international applicants and those applying to research instititutions. Some come with 3, 4, or 5 years of experience in this area. But I've seen internationals get an acceptance with a summer's worth of research, so if other activities are strong enough, they can override a lack in one area. Pubs are always a plus no matter where.

Your chance is better than zero, especially if your application is otherwise so compelling that schools can't bear to turn you away. If English is a language you learned in the last 5 years, or if you would help to fill a diverse niche that a school longs to represent, that could help you.

 

[outsidechance]

Opinions vary on what entails a "good" research experience. One year is the average for American applicants. Two years is more typical of international applicants and those applying to research instititutions. Some come with 3, 4, or 5 years of experience in this area. But I've seen internationals get an acceptance with a summer's worth of research, so if other activities are strong enough, they can override a lack in one area. Pubs are always a plus no matter where.

Your chance is better than zero, especially if your application is otherwise so compelling that schools can't bear to turn you away. If English is a language you learned in the last 5 years, or if you would help to fill a diverse niche that a school longs to represent, that could help you.

I am canadian if you didnt guess that already and not a visible minority.

 

[Catalystik]

I am canadian if you didnt guess that already

That was my guess from the complexities of your GPA and course description. Are you a native French speaker, by any chance?

 

[outsidechance]

That was my guess from the complexities of your GPA and course description. Are you a native French speaker, by any chance?

nope from ontario and speak english only. Thanks for that link from above I did check it out. it was very helpful. Are u a current med student in the US? i was just wondering if i should call the admisions offices of schools that might consider me to explain my situation and see if i fit in at their school, or they might be very...lets say politely, not interested in talking to me?

 

[Catalystik]

1)Are u a current med student in the US?

2) i was just wondering if i should call the admisions offices of schools that might consider me to explain my situation and see if i fit in at their school, or they might be very...lets say politely, not interested in talking to me?

1) I am a survivor of the US allopathic med school application process, plus a few years down the road from there.

2) Some med school admissions staff are open to providing a phone consultation, and some will not be. Calling to ask about making a phone appointment with a dean isn't going to hurt, as the worst is that they'll say no. Rosalind Franklin U in Illinois seems to be a good fit for your stats and I'm sure you'll find others. Give them a try and see if they'll help.