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Alliecat,

Thanks so much for the advice- glad to know I'm not alone!

Now does anyone know which schools have neurologists on staff or how I can find out? I know they're few and far between...

I know Illinois doesn't have one on staff- they have someone come down to teach the unit for 2 days!
 
We have two neurologists here at UTK, I believe. I've heard great things about our neurology class (2nd year) from my friends who just finished it. I believe it also has a lab component. And, having worked in radiology this summer, I know for sure we do lots of brain and spine MRIs and CTs, and a lot of these animals end up going to surgery.
 
I think you'd have to go to each school's webpage and find out. Unfortunately, the acvim.org website lists the diplomates, but not addresses/affiliations.

Tennessee does have a couple, and Dr. William Thomas is the current president of the College of veterinary neurologists. Penn probably has the largest concentration of them, and is considered pretty much #1 in the country for neuropathology. NCSU has "brain camp" every two years for neuro residents, so I imagine they have at least a couple there. My school, KSU, does not have one. Missouri does. Joan Coates is at, I think, Minnesota? Or Wisconsin? CSU has at least one....VMRCVM has a couple, and Florida has at least one.

That's off the top of my head--hope it helps!
 
alliecat44 said:
NCSU has "brain camp" every two years for neuro residents, so I imagine they have at least a couple there. My school, KSU, does not have one. Missouri does. Joan Coates is at, I think, Minnesota? Or Wisconsin? CSU has at least one....VMRCVM has a couple, and Florida has at least one.

That's off the top of my head--hope it helps!
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We've got 2 boarded neurologists. Dr. Joan Coates is at Mizzou. Nice lady so far, but I heard she was pretty hardcore during some people's interviews! Dr. Denny O'Brien (one of the top researchers in canine epilepsy) is also at Mizzou. I haven't heard about a brain camp, but I will leave the neurology stuff to them!
 
I love neuro too! And mizzou's Dr. O'Brien is awesome. He gave us a lecture over cerebellar deficiencies and had a dog walking around the class throughout the lecture that had a cerebellar problem. It was awesome and one of my favorite lectures so far in vet school!
 
Anyone know any schools with strong radiology/imaging components to their DVM program? I really think I would like to go into radiology but I'd like to get as much exposure (figuratively speaking!) as possible while in vet school . . . And it seems like some schools barely touch on it.

Pressmom-- what's UTK like in this respect? You're a self confessed "radiology geek" after all 😎
 
Yeah, Dr. Coates (THOUGHT she was at one of the "M" schools!) and Dr. O'Brien are awesome. 🙂 Although in vet school itself, it doesn't even necessarily matter WHO the neurologist(s) is/are, just that you're exposed to a neuro caseload. And again, that can be satisfied by doing a neuro externship as well. Vet school is kind of like undergrad in that where you go for your DVM really does NOT matter--the education is very very similar.

What matters is where you go for your internship and residency, if you're looking to specialize. During your internship/residency is when you'll be working much more closely within your specialty of interest (not even much during your internship, actually). And this becomes important if, say, you want to do a residency project on liver stuff and so you want a residency with the #1 liver guy in the country or whatever. Having the #1 liver guy at your school is not really important for your DVM, when you'll be learning and doing pretty much the same thing as all of your classmates. Point being: at this stage of the game, don't sweat it. I only mentioned keying in on specific schools for neuro just because not every school has a neurologist.

To my knowledge--I could be wrong--every vet school has at least one boarded radiologist. Some schools have more active research programs or more impressive "toys" (bigger magnets for their MRI machines, newer CT scanners, whatever), but the differences are not likely to be enough to notice in the years of your DVM curriculum, IMHO. After all, you're still learning the basics and are not likely going to be able to appreciate the difference between images acquired with a 1T and 1.5T magnet. Therefore, for something as "common" as radiology, I'm of the opinion that that shouldn't really have a bearing on which schools one would want to apply to for your veterinary degree. Just my $0.02... 🙂
 
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You should all just come to the U of MN- we have a board certified neurologist, a number of board-certified radiologists, a great food animal program, and a 3T MRI... brains AND toys 😀
 
starlene45 said:
Anyone know any schools with strong radiology/imaging components to their DVM program? I really think I would like to go into radiology but I'd like to get as much exposure (figuratively speaking!) as possible while in vet school . . . And it seems like some schools barely touch on it.

Pressmom-- what's UTK like in this respect? You're a self confessed "radiology geek" after all 😎
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Yeah, I'm working in the radiology department this summer. Sorry it took me a while to see this thread. Anyway, right now we have regular old digital radiographs, fluoroscopy, U/S, nuc med (we do A LOT of portal systemic shunt scintigraphies), MRI, and CT as far as imaging modalities. We also do iodine therapy in cats as well as having a linear accelerator for cancer treatment. I believe we have 5 radiologists and are looking for a sixth. We also have 2 residents and, I believe are about to get a third next month. All the radiologists are very fun and helpful as far as learning and hanging out down there.

Anyway, this summer I'm working on a GFR excretion study using scintigraphy to discover ureteral obstructions in cats and dogs. It's a retrospective study, but I get to hang out in radiology a lot, which is cool. I saw an MRI in a bear with hydrocephalus and a dachshund with C2-3 spinal cord compression, U/S on all manner of animals (including a bunny--so cute!), radiographs on a horse with atlanto-axial fusion, and fluoroscopy in a beagle with main-stem brochii collapse. Pretty cool stuff!!
 
>> I saw an MRI in a bear with hydrocephalus and a dachshund with C2-3 spinal cord compression, U/S on all manner of animals (including a bunny--so cute!), radiographs on a horse with atlanto-axial fusion, and fluoroscopy in a beagle with main-stem brochii collapse. Pretty cool stuff!<<


Okay, my jealously level is insane right now :laugh: and I am really curious about the atlanto-axial fusion in the horse!! (i'm picturing lots of funny conversations with dressage queens: "well, so, the reason you can't get your horse on the bit....") but, regardless, I appreciate all the info as well as the thoughts that maybe it doesn't matter too much where the basic DVM gets done.... I also get the impression that whatever your interests are, if you are motivated, you can start participating in those fields or areas even if they're not really a large part of the basic DVM program?

Haha also I still feel like I am interested in SO MANY THINGS right now... I just want to try it all out!!!
 
UC Davis has extremely strong programs in both neurology/neurosurgery and radiology.

There are 6 boarded neurologists and 4 residents...the service is one of the busiest in the VMTH; lots of surgery and residents are on call 24/7.

Radiology starts strong in our first year; we have weekly classes all three quarters for the whole year, and we cover US, CT and MRI as well as traditional radiographs. The residency at Davis is the only 4-year residency as far as I know.
 
Does anyone know which vet schools have pathology residencies, and/or have staff currently involved in doing research in veterinary parasitology?
I've taken an interest in pathology, and am wondering which vet school would give me the best exposure to such a field during my DVM studies so that I can pursue it in a residency program post-DVM.
 
Falconidae said:
Does anyone know which vet schools have pathology residencies, and/or have staff currently involved in doing research in veterinary parasitology?
I've taken an interest in pathology, and am wondering which vet school would give me the best exposure to such a field during my DVM studies so that I can pursue it in a residency program post-DVM.
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I can't speak for any other school, but UTK has a pathology residency. We also have a pathology club, first and second years are recruited to be on the "pathology emergency team" and come in to run labs overnight, and all students can watch necropsy every day at 4 pm from the balcony. I know we've also been invited to a few particularly "cool" necropsies to view on the floor.
 
KSU has at least two current pathology residents. Parasitology is pretty big here--Dr. Dryden does a ton of research on ticks (among other things). We also have senior students presenting necropsy rounds every afternoon, and you can be hired as a clinical pathology student technician--basically, on-call to run labs after hours and you get paid based on how many tests are run. (As a clinpath student, you can also live in an apartment rent-free in the top floor of the hospital provided you do x number of hours or something--pretty sweet deal, but sleep time is unpredictable!).
 
mtrl1-- awesome info, thanks! Davis is obviously my in-state school and I am most familiar with their equine hospital and so didn't know much about what sounds like a pretty freakin' cool radiology department. Now I am much more excited about applying there!

Anyone have any Iowa info or insights?
 
NCSU has a very busy equine opthalmology service, as well as an excellent podiatry service.
 
starlene45 said:
Anyone have any Iowa info or insights?
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I don't know much on Iowa, but I do know that if you're interested in swine medicine/production there is probably no better school in the US.
 
Thanks critterfixer and alliecat44! I'll definitely look into both schools' programs. Kansas has been on my list of vet schools to apply to for some time now, so it's nice to know they yet again have matched my interests! The clinical-path tech job sounds great, and I especially like the free rent incentive (which one of us wouldn't ;P)
 
Falconidae, I think I mentioned it on the other page, but Mizzou has the Research Animal Diagnostic Laboratory (RADIL), which I think is either the biggest or close to the biggest vet laboratory animal pathology departments in the country (can't remember). They get in stuff all over the country if you're interested in pathology. I did a collaborative project with one of the directors (Dr. Cindy Besch-Williford) in grad school and she was amazing! They do a lot of really cool stuff. 😎
 
I work with our cinical pathologists... we're all in the same lab, I mean. I think our pathologists pretty much rock... we usually have three on staff to read slides from hospital and outside cases (for Antech) plus two residents. One of our residents is going to TA&MU... she's pretty awesome. I kinda think I could really enjoy clinical pathology... I mean, they are kind of the ultimate diagnosis tool (IMO, at least)... they answer all of the confused vets' questions, diagnose all of the wicked cool things, and best of all... they don't have to deal with clients. LOL. After a call I got FROM A CLIENT (or some friend/relative of a client even) wanting to know test results, I can understand the pleasure of not having to deal with them.

Sorry for that hijack. Point being... OKSU has, I think, some pretty awesome clinical pathologists.
 
would you guys happen to know what the Caribbean vet schools are "known for?" 🙂
 
Well, I do know a major positive for going to vet school at either Ross or SGU...you get to pick where you want to go for your 4th year in the U.S. schools! Of coarse, there are limitations to how many people can go to each school and from what I've heard--some schools don't accept any people and a few schools either only accept SGU people or vice versa.

You can tailor your clinical year to fit your interests...so for example if your really interested in exotics, go to UC Davis!
 
And I would argue that if you're really interested in exotics, go to UTK. 😉
 
rachroo said:
Well, I do know a major positive for going to vet school at either Ross or SGU...you get to pick where you want to go for your 4th year in the U.S. schools! Of coarse, there are limitations to how many people can go to each school and from what I've heard--some schools don't accept any people and a few schools either only accept SGU people or vice versa.

You can tailor your clinical year to fit your interests...so for example if your really interested in exotics, go to UC Davis!
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Davis accepts students from caribbean vet schools for their clinical rounds??
 
I don't know the specific schools that accept them...but I'm sure if you called Ross and/or SGU they would tell you at present which schools accept their students for their clinical year.

I attended an informational seminar for SGU and I don't remember the exact number but I think it was between 17-22 US schools (either way a really high number) did have a few spots set aside for SGU's students during their final year.
 
I just looked up the info for SGU and Ross since I will be applying to those schools along with the U.S. schools.

Here's the link for SGU: http://www.sgu.edu/website/sguwebsite.nsf/svm/veterinary-curriculum.html

They say, " The fourth year is 48 weeks of clinical training comprised of 22 weeks of instruction in seven core subjects and 24 weeks of electives that may be a continuation of core subjects or concentrations in select specialties. We are affiliated with 17 schools of veterinary medicine in the United States, four schools of veterinary medicine in the United Kingdom and schools in Canada and the Republic of Ireland, where St. George’s students spend their final clinical year alongside students enrolled in those institutions."

As far as Ross goes, here is the link:http://www.rossu.edu/veterinary-school/academics/course.cfm

They say, "The Pre-Clinical Curriculum takes place in St. Kitts and consists of seven semesters (136 semester credit hours) of specifically prescribed course work. Upon completion of the Pre-Clinical training, students return to the U.S. and begin the final three semesters (consisting of semester 8,9 and 10 – minimum of 48 weeks and maximum of 52 weeks) of Clinical Training at one of the 21 Ross University-affiliated American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA)-accredited schools of veterinary medicine. Students are then eligible to apply and test for licensure in order to practice veterinary medicine in the United States.
 
I know it was briefly mentioned earlier, but I did my undergrad at UF and they are a great school for equine. The Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (aka foal unit) was the first of its kind in the country and still one of the most important. They also have a large equine caseload from nearby Marion County, which I believe is *the* most densely-populated county in the US for horse farms. Just throwing that out there.
 
jeeney said:
Davis accepts students from caribbean vet schools for their clinical rounds??
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Davis does not currently accept Caribbean students for clinics as fas as I know. You could probably do a 2-4 week externship in the hospital but not the whole year.

Oh, and Davis also has a huge path department with brand new facilities and a strong residency program. There was a terrific wildlife necropsy wetlab this year which was loads of fun; there are also quarterly rounds for the path club.
 
mtrl1 said:
Davis does not currently accept Caribbean students for clinics as fas as I know. You could probably do a 2-4 week externship in the hospital but not the whole year.

Oh, and Davis also has a huge path department with brand new facilities and a strong residency program. There was a terrific wildlife necropsy wetlab this year which was loads of fun; there are also quarterly rounds for the path club.
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is the new path building the one with a built-in eye scanner to prevent "bad" people from getting access to lethal diseases like anthrax and etc..? UCD is my dream vet school...i was there for their SEP program with Yasmin in 2007 where i got to do rotations in the VMTH with students and voluteered @ mercer, but i was rejected when I applied..and I feel as though whatever I do, i won't be good enough for UCD...🙁 *sigH* but I am off to ross this fall...🙂 so that's an upside..hehe...dvm is a dvm no matter what the school, rite? 😛
 
mtrl1 said:
Davis does not currently accept Caribbean students for clinics as fas as I know. You could probably do a 2-4 week externship in the hospital but not the whole year.

Oh, and Davis also has a huge path department with brand new facilities and a strong residency program. There was a terrific wildlife necropsy wetlab this year which was loads of fun; there are also quarterly rounds for the path club.
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i think my friend's in your class..do you know christina terry? 😀
 
Barnaby said:
Alliecat,

Thanks so much for the advice- glad to know I'm not alone!

Now does anyone know which schools have neurologists on staff or how I can find out? I know they're few and far between...
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CSU has two neurologists on staff at the teaching hospital here.
 
Penn = Being the best at everything, not to mention the most desired.

Yea, dawg
 
This is going to sound bad, especially since I go to A&M, but is A&M known for anything? Other than cloning lol.

I know we're getting a new cancer center and we do some of the AQUAVET stuff. Also we have a lot going on in large animal and exotics but I don't think any more than other schools.
 
Penn= best zoo/exotic program, and best aquavet program.
 
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Zoo medicine? Best schools?

UTK has one of the best Zoo/Exotic programs.

Penn= best zoo/exotic program, and best aquavet program.

I love how most vet students I talk to on here are so positive about their own schools. <3 So which is better... Penn or UTK... haha. Are there any other schools known for zoo med?
 
i think Pennvet was kidding. i don't know much about our exotics ward in the hospital other than it exists, and the vets are competent (ok the latter is an assumption), though i don't think we have any diplomates here. i do know that there are only a handful of exotic electives offered, and rotations in the department are likely also limited. aquavet is a big hit though.

the philly zoo is a big plus, but if you want to do exotics for these four years, i'd recommend elsewhere. someone else can feel free to correct me on any of this.
 
Emio said:
i think Pennvet was kidding. i don't know much about our exotics ward in the hospital other than it exists, and the vets are competent (ok the latter is an assumption), though i don't think we have any diplomates here. i do know that there are only a handful of exotic electives offered, and rotations in the department are likely also limited. aquavet is a big hit though.

the philly zoo is a big plus, but if you want to do exotics for these four years, i'd recommend elsewhere. someone else can feel free to correct me on any of this.
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I was just looking around at pre-reqs to vet school to make sure my undergrad choices had the classes and I saw that Penn and Cornell had the aquavet program but it sounded confusing... i thought it meant it was programs for summers and such for anyone. But it seems llike an awesome program!
 
UTK has 2 Diplomates of the ACZM, one with a Reptile Specialty certification and one who served as President of the American Association of Zoo Veterinarians 2006-2007, and 2 Diplomates of the ABVP--Avian Specialty, with a third just about certified, too.

We have a Resident who I believe is working on his Reptile certification, and an intern.

Our school offers veterinary care to the Knoxville Zoo, The American Eagle Foundation, Ripley's Believe It Or Not Aquarium (rated the number 1 aquarium in the USA), the Chattanooga Aquarium (rated number 2 in the USA), and we sometimes work with the big cat sanctuary nearby.

Every student does at least one exotics rotation, we recently hosted the Annual Exotics Symposium, and we have a variety of exotics and wildlife electives available (I am taking Wildlife Diseases this semester) beginning in the second year of the program.

I think we do indeed have one of the superior exotics/zoo/wildlife programs around.
 
ylrebmik said:
I was just looking around at pre-reqs to vet school to make sure my undergrad choices had the classes and I saw that Penn and Cornell had the aquavet program but it sounded confusing... i thought it meant it was programs for summers and such for anyone. But it seems llike an awesome program!
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no, i'm pretty sure it's only open to vet students. several of my classmates did the Aquavet I this summer, and loved it.
 
Davis is certainly very very strong in wildlife/exotics. San Diego zoo, monterey bay aquarium, etc... lots of those options here. Davis' graduate programs in ecology and evolution are the top ranked in the country, making wildlife studies a strength even outside of the veterinary side. Check out the wildlife health center (oiled wildlife, seadoc, conservation... http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/whc/), as well the seemingly very active wildlife and aquatic medicine club... (http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/Clubs/WAAM/)

Look at their curriculum handbook to get an idea of all the classes offered - a ton! https://secure.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/public/curriculumhandbook/

even as early as winter quarter, freshman can choose from:
PHR225 Preventive Avian Medical Practice
PMI418 Health and Disease in Terrestrial Wildlife
VME294B Conservation Biology and Veterinary Medicine
VME298 Emerging Issues in Ecosystem Health (vet students only)
VME432 Medical & Husbandry Procedures for Raptors
VME487 Comparative Anatomy and Physiology of Non-domestic Animals

and in the spring, add on:
PMI419 Field Techniques for Assessment of Wildlife and Ecosystem Health
VME410 Husbandry, Feeding and Management of Captive Animals

I for one am pretty excited!!
 
Emio said:
no, i'm pretty sure it's only open to vet students. several of my classmates did the Aquavet I this summer, and loved it.
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I meant open to any vet student but I wasn't sure if it was just for vet students outside of cornell/penn or not.

hoodle- that sounds awesome. I figured UTK, Davis, and Florida were the big zoo medicine but I wasn't sure. But I have 4 years to work that out! haha
 
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