what are the 12 lowest tier schools?

[HarveyCushing]

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...the last 12 allopathic schools on the list are...

Ranking: n = lowest

n-11. Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science
n-10. University of Arizona
n-9. University of North Dakota
n-8. Wright State University
n-7. East Carolina University (Brody)
n-6. University of Louisville
n-5. Southern Illinois University - Springfield
n-4. University of Missouri - Kansas City
n-3. A.T. Still University of Health Sciences
n-2. Oklahoma State University
n-1. Ohio University
n. Howard University

Note that US News' ranking is based upon an index comprised of admissions rate, gpa, and mcat
scores.

Edit: A lot of the lower ranked schools are state schools, so they will be difficult to get into anyway for OOS applicants.

Edit x 2: Someone already posted the complete list in post #83.

You know that the three schools in bold are Osteopathic Medical Schools right??

 

[Depakote]

You know that the three schools in bold are Osteopathic Medical Schools right??

*gasp*

How dare those Osteopathic schools not say so in their name so us upstanding pre-meds can know exactly which schools we're saying are the worst.

Personally I'm offended. 😡

 

[Doctor Bagel]

*gasp*

How dare those Osteopathic schools not say so in their name so us upstanding pre-meds can know exactly which schools we're saying are the worst.

Personally I'm offended. 😡

I know! It's like false marketing or something. Some poor unsuspecting premed might want up going to one of these schools without *gasp* realizing their inherent inferiority. 😉

 

[HarveyCushing]

*gasp*

How dare those Osteopathic schools not say so in their name so us upstanding pre-meds can know exactly which schools we're saying are the worst.

Personally I'm offended. 😡

It was the fact that the poster (F12) made a point to state that the list of the 12 medical schools were allopathic. I just found it amuzing that 25% of the schools they listed were osteopathic. I have no problems with this as I will be attending a DO school. It just made me laugh at the posters ignorance.

 

[belgianbeerguy]

*gasp*

How dare those Osteopathic schools not say so in their name so us upstanding pre-meds can know exactly which schools we're saying are the worst.

Personally I'm offended. 😡

😆

 

[deleted103644]

knowing a girl who only got into her relatively easy to get into state school and jefferson, i would have assumed that jefferson was a lower tiered school/easier OOS to get into, just based on this anecdotal evidence

Jefferson has ~5% acceptance rate OOS (and I think somewhere around 15% in-state). The main reasons it accepts some less qualified applicants is that it has agreements with a few colleges to guarantee a certain number of spots for them - which means some less qualified undergrads can go directly to Jeff. It's a solid school in a great location, and really shouldn't be included in this list (although Drexel and Temple probably should). It's in the middle of the pack with a very strong clinical experience and a large alumni network - Jeff has more living doctors practicing in the US than any other med school. For the record, I have decided not to attend Jefferson, but I still think people should do a bit more research before jumping to conclusions.

 

[deleted103644]

It was the fact that the poster (F12) made a point to state that the list of the 12 medical schools were allopathic. I just found it amuzing that 25% of the schools they listed were osteopathic. I have no problems with this as I will be attending a DO school. It just made me laugh at the posters ignorance.

Not to start a flame war, but is there really that much of a distinction between a bad MD program and a DO one? Without the word osteopathic in the name, isn't it essentially the same thing? (I can't believe it's not allopathic!) What percentage of people go to DO schools for the phlosophy, really? My guess is less than 10%, probably less than 5. When your students are treating you as a backup plan because they couldn't get into an MD program, it's hard to believe the integrity of the "osteopathic philosophy" is really being maintained. Now let me get out some marshmallows...

 

[HreComesTheSun]

The main reasons it accepts some less qualified applicants is that it has agreements with a few colleges to guarantee a certain number of spots for them - which means some less qualified undergrads can go directly to Jeff. It's a solid school in a great location, and really shouldn't be included in this list (although Drexel and Temple probably should). It's in the middle of the pack...

i'm sure jefferson is a fine school, i just thought it was interesting that you left jefferson out of the lower tier lists you posted, even though some schools you did post share very similar rankings in US News...it just goes to show that any answers to the OPs question will undoubtedly be subjective. fwiw, the girl i know who got into jeff, her undergrad had no connection to jeff, it just happen to be the only other school she got into.

I still think people should do a bit more research before jumping to conclusions.

this is true for any school, not just jefferson

 

[belgianbeerguy]

Not to start a flame war, but is there really that much of a distinction between a bad MD program and a DO one? Without the word osteopathic in the name, isn't it essentially the same thing? (I can't believe it's not allopathic!) What percentage of people go to DO schools for the phlosophy, really? My guess is less than 10%, probably less than 5. When your students are treating you as a backup plan because they couldn't get into an MD program, it's hard to believe the integrity of the "osteopathic philosophy" is really being maintained. Now let me get out some marshmallows...

I think people use it as a backup, because they're probably looking for an allopathic residency. It is harder for a student that didn't go to a US allo school to get into an allo residency. I don't think it's a bad decision. I'd much rather go to medical school than wait another year and do a ton of applications.

What's the big deal about not having bought into a philosophy before attending the school? I would argue that a lot of people accept job positions at companies where they don't really care about that company's philosophy. That's why you get trained. DO schools only have slight variations in how they train physicians, so the philosophies aren't that different either.

 

[StringTheorist]

sheesh...why can someone just answer the kid's question...stop w/ the lectures (we're all in the same boat remember). Hopefully OP with do his/her HW and not just go by some list of schools or #'s

here are some (i think)

Rosalind Franklin
Jefferson
NY med
UI (Carver)
Drexel ?
Albany ?
NJMS (instate pref)

I am so glad you answered. seriously people, facts are facts, some schools are better than others, no matter what. this kid needed to know. if i didnt get accepted to a lower ranked pharmacy school, you bet id know it. its called reality, and you should be thankful you got accepted anywhere in the first place, considering how tough med school acceptances are nowadays. like he said, if you got into some not-so-well-known med school, it IS different than getting accepted to Johns Hopkins... facts are facts.

 

[trichomoniasis]

I am so glad you answered. seriously people, facts are facts, some schools are better than others, no matter what. this kid needed to know. if i didnt get accepted to a lower ranked pharmacy school, you bet id know it. its called reality, and you should be thankful you got accepted anywhere in the first place, considering how tough med school acceptances are nowadays. like he said, if you got into some not-so-well-known med school, it IS different than getting accepted to Johns Hopkins... facts are facts.

wait wait wait. wait just one minute. you lost me. facts are whatnow?

 

[HreComesTheSun]

I am so glad you answered. seriously people, facts are facts, some schools are better than others, no matter what. this kid needed to know. if i didnt get accepted to a lower ranked pharmacy school, you bet id know it. its called reality, and you should be thankful you got accepted anywhere in the first place, considering how tough med school acceptances are nowadays. like he said, if you got into some not-so-well-known med school, it IS different than getting accepted to Johns Hopkins... facts are facts.

it isn't that anyone is saying hopkins is exactly the same as a lower-ranked school, but how would you distinguish between the exact bottom 12 schools and the 12 above those?

you are free to post your factual list of the bottom 12 here, i'm sure many people would be interested to see it

 

[Hallm_7]

Here's the bottom 12 US allopathic schools (including PR) by total NIH funding in FY 2005. I know this isn't the only thing that encompasses a ranking, but it's a large piece:

123:Mercer
122:Northeastern Ohio Universities
121:East Tennessee State
120:Eastern Carolina
119:Central University of Puerto Rico
118:Missouri-Kansas City
117:Texas Tech
116:Creighton
115:Eastern Virginia
114😛once in PR
113:Marshall University
112:University of South Carolina

I don't know where numbers 124 and 125 are on this list....