Wondering if anyone has thoughts on which are the least competetive PM & R residencies to get into and why that is?
What are the least competitive PM & R residencies?
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Setting your goals low?
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I interviewed at Tampa's VA program 4 yrs ago and they were having issue with accreditation, if you don't think you are a competitive candidate, look for programs that are on the edge of not getting re-accredited.
Better option is to go find a program you like and spend a month there. Work very very hard, show them you are a bad***** and they will rank you high.
If you are truly concerned about your application, the best approach (if you can afford it) is to apply as broadly as possible and rank as many programs as possible. Honestly, I think that PM&R is getting more and more competitive that only ranking the 5-8 of "least competitive" programs may not lead to matching. If you can afford it, apply very broadly and try to set up an audition rotation.
interviewing at numerous programs and analyzing strengths and weaknesses of the programs. Here are the programs that are weak in PM&R:
1.) Kingsbrook
2.) National rehab hosiptal in washington D.C ( was on PROBATION for quite some time)
3.)Tampa program
4.) Metropolitan in NY
1.) Kingsbrook
2.) National rehab hosiptal in washington D.C ( was on PROBATION for quite some time)
3.)Tampa program
4.) Metropolitan in NY
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on a different note, i was thinking about getting a pizza for dinner tonight, but im going to order from the worst place in town. also, i plan to stop by the pet store and pick up the ugliest dog i can find. does anyone know where i can find any really uncomfortable shoes? what?????
there about 5-7 really good PMR programs, maybe 5-10 above average ones, and the rest are pretty mediocre. im assuming you are asking because you may not be the most competetive candidate? im sure you'll be able to find some bottom of the barrel programs.
there about 5-7 really good PMR programs, maybe 5-10 above average ones, and the rest are pretty mediocre. im assuming you are asking because you may not be the most competetive candidate? im sure you'll be able to find some bottom of the barrel programs.
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What information did you use to come to your conclusions?
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There is a fine line between knowing ones limitations and aspiring for mediocrity.
10 years in the field. keeping my eyes and ears open. knowing what im talking about. there's no book, or list, or reference.
knowing where the good/bad/average docs trained.
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Thanks. Just to be clear, I wasn't trying to be antagonistic or questioning of your ability to rank programs, just looking for some insight into what you viewed as important/were able to see without actually having been through the program, e.g.
Thank you as well
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i don't think it's fair to jump on this person's case. Everyone always talks about the "top tiered" programs... and most people who are on sdn... represent an interesting/motivated/slightly obsessive lot of individuals (I myself am probably over-obsessive)
Either way, maybe he/she REALLY wants to go into PM&R, already has read up on the TOP programs... and is just trying to get a sense of where he/she has a likely chance of matching... that's all. I felt I needed to write this b/c I remember having a similar question last year... and thinking i'll go anywhere that takes me in!
Either way, maybe he/she REALLY wants to go into PM&R, already has read up on the TOP programs... and is just trying to get a sense of where he/she has a likely chance of matching... that's all. I felt I needed to write this b/c I remember having a similar question last year... and thinking i'll go anywhere that takes me in!
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Good point...
Also it depends on what you want to do with your PM&R career. I know of people who went to the top programs who want to be needle jockeys who have never done any flouroscopically guided procedures and only spent 1 month with pain clinics; even though its a top program, no experience in what they wanted to do.
Find your passion and chase it down.
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ugh, started putting things together today. got timed out twice without the page i was working on saving. now i'm watching olympic trials for gymnastics. tomorrow's a new day, although a full work day on rotation first. also scared because I probably won't have all of my LORs in until September...feeling screwed.
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september should be fine.
When it comes to LORs, make sure to get to know the administrative staff that sends out the letters. They are good people to develop a relationship with since they will be the one actually sending out your letter. If you are nice, they may even help speed up the process.
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I think the biggest thing is your gut feeling, I went to a top 10 program, but there were other programs on my interview list that were lower that my gut had a better feeling about, and I chose the higher ranked program, and looking back, wish I would have listened to my gut, the higher ranked program I went to was a mediocre educational experience, I was counting down the days from pgy-2 onward to when I would finish, I just did not feel like I fit in and did not get as much out of the experience as I could have gotten, looking back, I think good programs include Jefferson, U Mich, Temple, JFK Johnson,
be aware of obvious red flags like residents leaving program, not filling all slots, failing boards, how happy the resident look, financial stability of program, also, talking to former resident maybe 1-3 years out might give you a good idea about a program
be aware of obvious red flags like residents leaving program, not filling all slots, failing boards, how happy the resident look, financial stability of program, also, talking to former resident maybe 1-3 years out might give you a good idea about a program
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Thanks for the advice. I'm wondering how many programs I should apply to as somebody who probably isn't a very competitive applicant numbers-wise. 210 Step one (taking CK in Aug with hopes of improvement), high passes and honors on M3 rotations (but more HPs than Hs), lots of volunteer and leadership experience,but no research since graduate school prior to med school. Will I even get interviews at places like Mayo or Stanford? Money is an issue--would like to apply broadly to top-tier as well as a bunch of other programs but won't bother if it's unrealistic. Thank you again, to those who take the time to respond on these forums. I like to have all the info I can get going into the applications process.
I would apply broadly, 20-25 programs. Just like with undergrad, of course apply to the dreams, several of the competitive, and many safeties. The match can be a cruel mistress and you don't want to be left hanging, especially with new rules for the match/scramble. You should be good if you interview 10-11 programs and rank them.
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to SSdoc33. I believe there are kinder ways of expressing your opinion about someone's perspective than to express cynical/condescending jokes, no matter how off you may think that perspective is.
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What is the consensus on the program at Kingsbrook Jewish Medical Center? I know it is a low-tier program but do residents generally get (ACGME-accredited) fellowships? The program underwent change in leadership that may move the program in a better direction. Input would be appreciated.
That was over a year ago. And if you don't like people giving their opinion, you are being quite hhypocritical. In no way do I HAVE to out my faith in god. That might make you sleep better at night, but I find it an affront to humanity.
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So whats the best way to go about finding residents that are 1-3 years out from a program to talk to? Will the program give out a couple names if you call them up? I think its a good idea.
I would talk with the residency coordinator or one of the chiefs and see if they have any contact information.
