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This is very very very silly. You absolutely cannot draw any conclusions about a person based on what they typed in a video game's chat system. Perfectly normal people, just for the hell of it, join in on offensive/antagonistic/****talking behaviour when everything is anonymous and online, especially as teenagers which Turk probably was when that happened. It's not because each of them is sociopathic, it's because kids especially become cruel online and want the attention they get when they say things that would normally shock. I've seen kind, socially successful friends say ridiculously offensive and hateful things online for the amusement of shock value. That's just the bizarre anonymous culture of the internet.

I have no doubt that acting like a maniac in a video game correlates with nothing except the slight immaturity that is expected at that age.

So you'd pair a history of bad behavior online with the way he acts here and come out saying that I can't make any conclusions about him? I've seen a ton of his posts here, and they come across as excessively neurotic and totally devoid of any interests in life outside of getting into medical school. He states: "I wanted advice in which areas I could improve in and I guess "relaxing" or "having fun" were the answers. I don't really care about that. I want to be serious and accomplish the things I set out." If you can take all that and believe that in real life he's on a path to being socially successful then you are more optimistic than me.
 
So you'd pair a history of bad behavior online with the way he acts here and come out saying that I can't make any conclusions about him? I've seen a ton of his posts here, and they come across as excessively neurotic and totally devoid of any interests in life outside of getting into medical school. He states: "I wanted advice in which areas I could improve in and I guess "relaxing" or "having fun" were the answers. I don't really care about that. I want to be serious and accomplish the things I set out." If you can take all that and believe that in real life he's on a path to being socially successful then you are more optimistic than me.

He also posted about dating a nurse, so it's not all bad! I assumed that he knows how to relax, but wanted advice on what he should be doing while not relaxing. @Turkishking do you not do anything for fun that you haven't posted here?
 
Did you date the nurse because of her connections to the medical field?

I kid, I kid. I'm sorry.
 
This is very very very silly. You absolutely cannot draw any conclusions about a person based on what they typed in a video game's chat system. Perfectly normal people, just for the hell of it, join in on offensive/antagonistic/****talking behaviour when everything is anonymous and online, especially as teenagers which Turk probably was when that happened. It's not because each of them is sociopathic, it's because kids especially become cruel online and want the attention they get when they say things that would normally shock. I've seen kind, socially successful friends say ridiculously offensive and hateful things online for the amusement of shock value. That's just the bizarre anonymous culture of the internet.

I have no doubt that acting like a maniac in a video game correlates with nothing except the slight immaturity that is expected at that age.

So you think it's perfectly acceptable to be offensive/toxic in an online forum simply because it's anonymous?

Edited to make sense.
 
So you think it's perfectly acceptable to be offensive/toxic in an online forum simply because it's anonymous?

Edited to make sense.

Not at all, the point is that although it's weird and depressing it's not because of particularly disturbed individuals, it seems to emerge when groups of people (especially young men) communicate anonymously over the internet. I wasn't saying that it's fine, just that it's not unusual and the people who get swept up in it aren't actually that hateful/sexist/racist/etc., just a bit too susceptible to the online culture of trying to say shockingly offensive things for attention.

But this is getting further away from the thread topic so I won't post about it anymore.
 
Not at all, the point is that although it's weird and depressing it's not because of particularly disturbed individuals, it seems to emerge when groups of people (especially young men) communicate anonymously over the internet. I wasn't saying that it's fine, just that it's not unusual and the people who get swept up in it aren't actually that hateful/sexist/racist/etc., just a bit too susceptible to the online culture of trying to say shockingly offensive things for attention.

Anonymity lets people say things they'd never say IRL I guess.

But this is getting further away from the thread topic so I won't post about it anymore.

Okidoke.
 
This is very very very silly. You absolutely cannot draw any conclusions about a person based on what they typed in a video game's chat system. Perfectly normal people, just for the hell of it, join in on offensive/antagonistic/****talking behaviour when everything is anonymous and online, especially as teenagers which Turk probably was when that happened. It's not because each of them is sociopathic, it's because kids especially become cruel online and want the attention they get when they say things that would normally shock. I've seen kind, socially successful friends say ridiculously offensive and hateful things online for the amusement of shock value. That's just the bizarre anonymous culture of the internet.

I have no doubt that acting like a maniac in a video game correlates with nothing except the slight immaturity that is expected at that age.

First, I would like to say that I understand your sentiment and 9 times out of 10 I would agree with you about drawing definitive conclusions based on behavior in video games.

Second, I would like to say that you could still possibly be right that he may have just acted poorly online years ago.

However, I have to ask: have you played much League? I would guess "no" since you seem to think the community is just par for the course in terms of just being the internet. Riot lets a LOT of behavior that I would categorize as "ridiculously offensive and hateful things... for the amusement of shock value" slide and that's not what you get permabanned for. They have many alternatives before even looking at permabanning as a solution such as instant warnings, chat restrictions, added wait times before entering games, and temporary bans. They are genuinely interested in rehabilitating problem players rather then just throwing the banhammer at them.

League is home to some of the most toxic people on the internet. I'd place its toxicity level well above many places that are intentionally shocking or offensive such as 4chan etc. and my point is that much of this behavior goes unpunished. In order to get permabanned, you need to consistantly have been the "cream of the crop" in terms of overall toxicity. It's not like you drop a few f-bombs and racial slurs and you're instantly permabanned, you need to be behaving this way, magnifying its intensity by a factor of 30, and directing it AT people over a LONG period of time all while ignoring repeated and increasingly restrictive warning signs to get that sort of punishment. I don't think the League-playing SDN community is too off-base when they use this info coupled with his awkward manner of posting to say that he may need to work on his social skills.

Like I said before I agree this may all have happened a long time ago so the point may be moot by now, but I wanted to try to get across why some members reacted the way that they did when the permaban news came through. It had to be more than the usual "oh it's just the internet" type of behavior.

... Please don't serial kill me.
 
Kudos to you, but in the words of Wiz Khalifa "work hard play hard".
 
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