What defines "OOS-friendly"?

[Espressso]

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When looking through MSAR and the matriculation data for the first year class, you see the table of IS vs OOS with II's, WL's, acceptances, etc.

What's a good rule of thumb or general ratio to use to decipher if a school is OOS friendly? Should you be looking at Interviews to matriculates?

Thanks!

 

[Goro]

My rule of thumb is offering IIS to >15-20% of OOS applicants.

 

[Espressso]

My rule of thumb is offering IIS to >15-20% of OOS applicants.

Thank you. And just to be clear, private universities are generally much more OOS than public ones, correct?

 

[Catalystik]

to be clear, private universities are generally much more OOS [friendly] than public ones, correct?

Yes, but there are publics that have matriculated an increasing number of OOSers in the last decade, probably because the higher OOS tuition helps them meet the bottom line.

 

[starspells]

Yes, but there are publics that have matriculated an increasing number of OOSers in the last decade, probably because the higher OOS tuition helps them meet the bottom line.

UIC and USC-Greenville are like 100k+ for OOS...

 

[Syns]

Be sure to also look at the OOS accepted:II ratio. Some institutions seem OOS-friendly when looking at OOS interview statistics but those interviews don't really come to fruition in terms of an ACCEPTANCE! A standardizing ratio could be useful while comparing schools with >15% OOS interview statistics:

(OOS interviews / OOS applications) x (OOS acceptance / OOS interviews)

This would scale "OOS-Friendly" schools by an acceptance multiplier, allowing you to give preference to potentially higher-yield schools -- if that's what your into....

 

[Espressso]

I'm now looking to see which OOS schools I have favorited on MSAR have qualify after doing @Goro rule of thumb. Not one of them interviews 15% of the OOS applicants 🙁

 

[Espressso]

Is there a good list available of notable OOS-friendly programs?

 

[MaxPlancker]

I think there's too many factors that go into the interview % for OOS, thus it isn't a great way to determine OOS friendly. I recommend looking at which schools matriculate a sizeable portion (>20%) of their class from OOS instead.

 

[dougy]

also, oos friendly is not only all about the numbers. actually need to do legwork to figure out their philosophy on oos by studying their website and forums...

some oos friendlies reflect mission based
some oos friendlies regional
some oos friendlies want state ties (grew up there, undergrad in state)

 

[Catalystik]

I think there's too many factors that go into the interview % for OOS, thus it isn't a great way to determine OOS friendly. I recommend looking at which schools matriculate a sizeable portion (>20%) of their class from OOS instead.

I agree, as it's easier to do a one-step calculation like this.

BTW, I use 15% as my cutoff. Others use 25%.

 

[radioactive15]

My rule of thumb is offering IIS to >15-20% of OOS applicants.

Specifically, you are referring to the OOS ii's/OOS verified applications ratio?

When I tried that for a school like Albany, I got 3.3% . Is that normal for the % to be that low or is that because Albany receives a lot of applications?

 

[radioactive15]

I agree, as it's easier to do a one-step calculation like this.

BTW, I use 15% as my cutoff. Others use 25%.

For this method, is it better to use OOS interview/ total interviews or OOS matriculants/total matriculants?

 

[Goro]

Albany gets lots of apps. Still, if you're in striking distance, it's a school I recommend applying too.

Specifically, you are referring to the OOS ii's/OOS verified applications ratio?

When I tried that for a school like Albany, I got 3.3% . Is that normal for the % to be that low or is that because Albany receives a

 

[Catalystik]

For this method, is it better to use OOS interview/ total interviews or OOS matriculants/total matriculants?

I use OOS matriculants/total matriculants, but from there it's important to do an analysis beyond the numbers, as @dougy suggested, which considerably improves one's chances compared to shooting blind.