what do nurses hate about doctors?

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Tired said:
I used to post over there semi-regularly, but the aggression towards physicians was too much. It's one thing to complain about people who were mean to you or specific stupid/dangerous things done by specific physicians. It's quite another to resort to blatant character attacks on the entire body of physicians just because a doc once took a chart away from you.
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That goes on here by MDs directed at nurses, in much the same manner, as often or more so, here.

Interestingly by some of the same SDN posters that complain about nurses.
 
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cbrons said:
By the way, the nurse-pharmacist relationship is oftentimes no better than the nurse-pharmacist relationship (yeah there is one)....
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Well thats good to know. I'm glad there isn't any worse conflict between nurses and pharmacists, and nurses and pharmacists...
 
I've listened to a lot of griping about doctors from my co-workers at a medical insurance company and a family member who is an excellent nurse, really hard working, and I've just recently found myself defending the doctors (since I'm about to start school). I don't see how people expect doctors to handle the stress and lack of sleep without getting edgy. That's not to say that all doctors deserve a pass; I've complained about some absolute jerks who were my doctors. But I would think that almost anyone who had to work the hours that many doctors work on as little sleep as doctors get, AND have to face life and death situations in the event of a mistake would end up with a bit of a personality crisis, at least every now and then. I'm just thinking that I probably won't be above it, even though I'd like to be.
And now I'm thinking, take this situation and multiply it by a nurse who's stressed about many of the same things and also on a weird sleep schedule, and you're bound to have conflict. It'd be like a bunch of tired toddlers trying to share.
 
Nurses shouldn't have have the same privilege as doctors considering that anyone can become a nurse with a Btec health and social care course.
 
Anyways in my experience nurses were more rude then doctors... I did nursing but I'm going to go back because I took time off from it... It's a great course and it was fun... (Ok seeing people sick is not cool) but I was going through personal issues at that time... What I've found is that doctors teach things better and explain things better to student nurses then nurses themselves... And student doctors... They were actually nice towards me, when I was in hospital I've found that you learn things quicker with doctors then nurses... And nurses seemed to be way tooo harsh with first year students....
 
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notthegreatest said:
Nurses shouldn't have have the same privilege as doctors considering that anyone can become a nurse with a Btec health and social care course.
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The villagers of SDN generally look down upon practitioners of necromancy. Particularly of the inflammatory and linkdead OP variety.

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I've been at several teaching hospitals and for the most part everyone is nice and approachable. If you went to a doctor or nurse with a question they'd be more than happy to teach. The only time I've seen nurses dislike doctors or vice versa is when they simply have a poor attitude or bad personality in general... I wish that there was time in medical and nursing education to shadow each other's role more than just seeing a procedure or glimpse of them in the patients room so you can truly see what both providers do. I think it'd result in a lot more respect for both professions.

I do sometimes see a little disrespect toward nurses and I wonder why. From a nurses point of view I don't doubt for a second medicine is a difficult and time consuming job but I think there would be more respect if a physician saw what it was like to take care of 5-6+ patients in a day or night. Student nurses get to see various procedures and surgeries, but not much of what a full day is like and I don't think med students see much at all except nurses scurrying around on the floor or chatting if it's a slow day… I'd love to see a doc at the bedside communicating more with patients, making sure their meds are in on time, making time for wound care and trach care, deliver PRN meds, take care of an ETOH patient who is scoring, administer sliding scale coverage on 5 of your patients, hang several antibiotics, hang blood, 4/6 of your patients have dementia or alzheimers, 1 is sundowning and swinging at you and you can't give your PO meds so you ask the doctor for something to calm them down and they put in an order PO... sprint toward every bed alarm so you prevent patients from falling, meanwhile your other patients are pulling out their IVs/PICCs… and in the back of your head you're saying I need to get all this done on time or ASAP because at any minute one or two of these patients could probably code, and you should've knocked on wood because they just did, and they're 88 years old and should't have been a full code in the first place… I'm not saying all of this happens every night but those are just my examples of some things I usually have to deal with at the same time. It can get busy fast and all of a sudden there is hardly enough time to get it all done.

Anyways, I don't think it's much of a doctors vs nurses thing. I think it's more related to having a terrible personality or being in a crummy hospital environment.
 
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notthegreatest said:
Anyways in my experience nurses were more rude then doctors... I did nursing but I'm going to go back because I took time off from it... It's a great course and it was fun... (Ok seeing people sick is not cool) but I was going through personal issues at that time... What I've found is that doctors teach things better and explain things better to student nurses then nurses themselves... And student doctors... They were actually nice towards me, when I was in hospital I've found that you learn things quicker with doctors then nurses... And nurses seemed to be way tooo harsh with first year students....
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My grandmother was an intensive care nursery nurse at a teaching hospital. She would occasionally take an intern or med student aside and explain that in her area, that no drama is allowed. One little screw-up and babies die. The program directors loved all the nurses in that area and backed them up 100%. It is a teaching hospital so she understood the stress. Those that respected the nurses and the unique environment learned a lot.
 
Why are you here necro OP? If seeing sick people is some kind of problem for you, I don't think you are on your way to medical school, so what's the deal?
 
I am a RN. And I don't hate doctors. Maybe because I want to be one? I don't know. There are 'some' doctors that I do not like, but I don't think it has anything to do with the title, but just the person that they are. Weird personality quirks. But what I can tell you, is that my colleagues are anything but supportive knowing that I'm applying to medical school. I get those "Why not NP", ALL the time. I've quit trying to explain my reasoning. I will also say that the majority of my issues come from residents. Every July, there is one that just seems not "teachable". I know it's not my job to teach you, but hell, I'm just trying to tell you that the Levophed dose you ordered is going to kill your patient. I guess it all really depends. Nurses are rude. Doctors are rude. I think some nurses don't like doctors because they secretly want to be one, and just won't go for it. LOL 🙂
 
Neither of the jobs are easy... But it depends in the nurses and doctors themselves and the students.
 
I like doctors jobs, and respect them but doctoring isn't what I'd want to do... I'd prefer to be a nurse instead...
 
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