What does Sports Med allow you to do over FM alone for MSK conditions?

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Hi all, sorry if this is in the wrong place. M4 applying FM this year, I was just wondering what exactly (e.g. procedures or management of more conditions) a Sports Med fellowship allows me to do vs. practicing straight out of FM residency for MSK type issues. I'd like to have a 65-75% Primary Care and 25-35% MSK split in my ideal practice and I'm a bit on the fence in terms of how much I should be considering fellowship.

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Hi all, sorry if this is in the wrong place. M4 applying FM this year, I was just wondering what exactly (e.g. procedures or management of more conditions) a Sports Med fellowship allows me to do vs. practicing straight out of FM residency for MSK type issues. I'd like to have a 65-75% Primary Care and 25-35% MSK split in my ideal practice and I'm a bit on the fence in terms of how much I should be considering fellowship.

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If you go to an average FM residency your MSK physical exam skills and understanding of some more deep MSK/sports stuff will be mediocre but fine for 90% of things if you have interest in MSK and put in the effort. You will also lack the knowledge of working within an athletic department as a team physician.

A good fellowship that gives you exposure to ortho surgeons, PCSM FM, and PM&R trained physicians will make you much better at all of those things and give you more time to improve US skills. A bad fellowship is not worth your time.

If all you want to do is some extra MSK within a typical FM practice then don't worry about a fellowship and make sure you learn when to not sit on certain meniscus/RTC tears, spine issues, and be content without being team doc for anything beyond high school sports.
 
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Nothing aside from comfort with procedures and deeper knowledge. Source: FM who completed a sports med fellowship.
 
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Hi all, sorry if this is in the wrong place. M4 applying FM this year, I was just wondering what exactly (e.g. procedures or management of more conditions) a Sports Med fellowship allows me to do vs. practicing straight out of FM residency for MSK type issues. I'd like to have a 65-75% Primary Care and 25-35% MSK split in my ideal practice and I'm a bit on the fence in terms of how much I should be considering fellowship.
Based on what you said, I would stick with just FM but make an effort in residency to get procedures (injections mostly) and learn the MSK exam well. I’m a PGY-3 and feel relatively confident in my MSK skills aside from ultrasound and more advanced procedures. If you are interested in MSK ultrasound, you’ll likely need fellowship.

Just to add to what others have said, fellowship gives you a deeper understanding and also improves job opportunities. Consider fellowships in other specialties, most of the time you can do most of the things just with the primary training but there’s an extra 10-20% reserved for specialists. And yes, you can make a focus in certain areas but you’ll never be the “expert.”

It also allows you to advertise yourself better as a “sports guy” for possible referrals within your practice and outside of it.

Source: applying to SM fellowship right now
 
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I think anyone out of residency, FM or PMR, that feels that they are totally ready to just practice sports medicine shows their naivety (that includes all you Mayo grads haha).

I had some feelings like that out of residency, but once you are exposed to full MSK/sports medicine, you often leave fellowship realizing how much you still don't know. You just can't learn your primary specialty (soooo much you are expected to know for FM, lots of EMG/IPR/rehab rotations for PMR), and be ready from a primary specialty. If your confident you can be the sports person right out of residency you haven't found your weak/blind spots yet.
 
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You don't need a CAQ to cover your local high school games, volunteer at marathons, etc. Frankly, 20-30% of a primary care practice is MSK chief complaint oriented anyway! If you feel comfortable in your MSK skills and management, you don't need a fellowship. Joint injections, sprains and strains, simple fracture care should be a standard for any FM physician.

For SM/MSK issues, I tell learners the difference between residency and fellowship training is the following: Both levels can diagnose conditions (infectious mono, spondylosis, COVID, rotator cuff tendinitis, etc) but a fellow trained doctor answers the question of when they can return back to sport.

Now what can a fellowship do for you. Maybe a better understanding of mechanics of injury, as well as return to play considerations. Also understanding what's the most beneficial for the patient regarding rehabilitation. Understanding exercise physiology and sports performance. Procedural comfort, use of US, etc.

Taking care of athletes college level and up tends to more of a fellowship trained physician. At some professional leagues, a CAQ and # of years in training is required. For example, to be a NBA team physician, you need 7 years post fellowship experience with high level athletes, and a CAQ is required. For Major League Soccer, it's 5 years (starting this year now fellowship experience is included, so really it's 4 years).

Hope this helps!
 
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Thanks all for the helpful advice, I think I'm leaning a little bit more toward seriously considering fellowship after reading everything.

As I apply this year I'm definitely going to give presence of an in-house fellowship more weight in my rankings. All that being said, how much should I care about "prestige" in my FM programs? I know FM as a whole doesn't prioritize it as much as other specialties and I'm strongly considering many community programs over academic, but does Sports Med care about it at all? In other words, should I be considering "brand name" academic places a bit more to maximize my chances of matching Sports Med?
 
Thanks all for the helpful advice, I think I'm leaning a little bit more toward seriously considering fellowship after reading everything.

As I apply this year I'm definitely going to give presence of an in-house fellowship more weight in my rankings. All that being said, how much should I care about "prestige" in my FM programs? I know FM as a whole doesn't prioritize it as much as other specialties and I'm strongly considering many community programs over academic, but does Sports Med care about it at all? In other words, should I be considering "brand name" academic places a bit more to maximize my chances of matching Sports Med?
Prestige will no doubt open the door to some places but a name will only carry you so far. I would recommend finding the program that offers you the best education and targeted to your specific goals. Its worth noting that many programs with professional team affiliations do not let the fellows manage the athletes. You often get to shadow or wait in line to do simple things like an exam. I would worry less about the prestige and more about the actual education and experience.

You have one year to learn everything you can from your fellowship. Maximize it by getting as much HANDS ON experience as possible.
 
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