What is a journal club?

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I've seen the term journal club mentioned in rotation descriptions. Anyone know what this is specifically?

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pharmagirl said:
I've seen the term journal club mentioned in rotation descriptions. Anyone know what this is specifically?

It's this ******ed thing where you have to read an article from a medical journal, then describe it to an audience and critique it. Run far, far away from them if at all possible. It's work that I hate doing.
 
I saw that in the curriculum for CU today. I wondered the same thing. I imagined being required to keep a journal and share it with first-years or something.

It doesn't sound SO bad. I've done similar things through my pre-req years. I did a presentation on a study about using small,intranasal doses of ketamine for breakthrough pain management. I jumped to pharmacy not long after.

Anyway - it's probably a lot more high pressure doing in front of an audience of professors and colleagues. At least it's four years away and, at my school, Journal Club is in the very last semester.

Troy
 
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no
its hell
absolute hell........

you have to go through and basically rip the trial apart talk about stats and everything in it...
what type of error could have occured in the stats
what all was wrong with it
was it a good/bad study design...

BLAH
 
Requiem said:
thank god i've never heard of these mentioned at my school. i'd be hard pressed to not make an absolute farce of it.

You'll have it eventually. It has to be a part of the cirriculum at every school, me thinks. If not in class, they WILL make you do on in rotations. they suck ass. The professors are RELENTLESS when they ask you questions about the study.
 
Yeah, I just did my first journal club this week. we have to do them at UIC, in our second year. Its boring and pointless, but its not that hard. But they went easy on us cause it was our first time doing it and they gave us feedback on how to improve. I am sure it will be alot worse when we have to do it during rotations.
 
Yep, I've got to do one for my clinical site next week. Between journal club and case presentations, I'm definitely leaning more towards retail pharmacy. :laugh:
 
Does anyone here ever expect to continue their learning after they graduate? As "Doctors" in your field, you are supposed to be scholars. It is unlikely that you learn everything you need to know after four years of school. Are you supposed to learn everything you need to know about drugs from the drug rep? Are they going to provide you with everything you need to know in order for you to best serve your patients? Is your once a year CE going to do that for you? If you consider yourselves to be healthcare providers who serve the health and needs of patients then it would behoove you to pick up a journal and read it....and to learn from it, understand it, analyze it, and critique it. Otherwise you will be practicing 2006 pharmacy in 2020.
 
pharmacology said:
Does anyone here ever expect to continue their learning after they graduate? As "Doctors" in your field, you are supposed to be scholars. It is unlikely that you learn everything you need to know after four years of school. Are you supposed to learn everything you need to know about drugs from the drug rep? Are they going to provide you with everything you need to know in order for you to best serve your patients? Is your once a year CE going to do that for you? If you consider yourselves to be healthcare providers who serve the health and needs of patients then it would behoove you to pick up a journal and read it....and to learn from it, understand it, analyze it, and critique it. Otherwise you will be practicing 2006 pharmacy in 2020.
I agree with your statement. As a chemist I had to read journals all the time and learn the new stuff, or I just would not cut it.
Actually is my favorite part of the job. In your opinion what job in pharmacy gives you the best support to continue to learn?
 
pharmacology said:
Does anyone here ever expect to continue their learning after they graduate? As "Doctors" in your field, you are supposed to be scholars. It is unlikely that you learn everything you need to know after four years of school. Are you supposed to learn everything you need to know about drugs from the drug rep? Are they going to provide you with everything you need to know in order for you to best serve your patients? Is your once a year CE going to do that for you? If you consider yourselves to be healthcare providers who serve the health and needs of patients then it would behoove you to pick up a journal and read it....and to learn from it, understand it, analyze it, and critique it. Otherwise you will be practicing 2006 pharmacy in 2020.

In Canada every practicing pharmacist is required to obtain 15 Continuing Education credits, obtained from seminars , presentations, on-line learning etc yearly.

I thought this was standard.
 
Requiem said:
In Canada every practicing pharmacist is required to obtain 15 Continuing Education credits, obtained from seminars , presentations, on-line learning etc yearly.

I thought this was standard.
Well, it is standard, - all pharmacists have to have a certain number of CEs per year to keep their license. But it's like a lot of things - it's what you make of it. I have worked with one pharmacist who begs everyone to give him the answers to CEs so he doesn't have to read anything - he can just turn in the answers. Obviously, he's not learning anything from those CEs.
 
pharmacology said:
Does anyone here ever expect to continue their learning after they graduate? As "Doctors" in your field, you are supposed to be scholars. It is unlikely that you learn everything you need to know after four years of school. Are you supposed to learn everything you need to know about drugs from the drug rep? Are they going to provide you with everything you need to know in order for you to best serve your patients? Is your once a year CE going to do that for you? If you consider yourselves to be healthcare providers who serve the health and needs of patients then it would behoove you to pick up a journal and read it....and to learn from it, understand it, analyze it, and critique it. Otherwise you will be practicing 2006 pharmacy in 2020.

I feel you and I wholeheartedly agree. I didnt think journal clubs were that bad. However, I think that it may be a bit pointless in some aspects. I actually thought the article I was assigned was interesting. However, I found myself not paying attention to the other people's journals. Mostly because I have a hard time paying attention when people are "reading" something to me. I dont know. I would rather read a journal on my own then have someone else walk me through one. But thats just me.
 
Requiem said:
In Canada every practicing pharmacist is required to obtain 15 Continuing Education credits, obtained from seminars , presentations, on-line learning etc yearly.

I thought this was standard.

It is governed by the pharmacy board from your state. In Florida, we need 30 hours in 2 years. 10 hours must be live, in-person CE's, 1 hour must be HIV-AIDS, 2 hours must be on medication errors. Consultants & Nuclear pharmacists need 12 hours per year in their specialty.
 
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