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What are some applications of OMM? I think i read its used to treat pain, but what else?
NRAI2001 said:What are some applications of OMM? I think i read its used to treat pain, but what else?
NRAI2001 said:What are some applications of OMM? I think i read its used to treat pain, but what else?
NRAI2001 said:What are some applications of OMM? I think i read its used to treat pain, but what else?
NRAI2001 said:What are some applications of OMM? I think i read its used to treat pain, but what else?
It's used to enhance cranial powers and advance our magical abilities provided by the little green men in our CSF.NRAI2001 said:What are some applications of OMM? I think i read its used to treat pain, but what else?
NRAI2001 said:What are some applications of OMM? I think i read its used to treat pain, but what else?
ambernikel said:I really think the benefits are good for the patients like me. But if you're going into a specialty I'm not sure how much it would benefit you other than your sore family members and friends will love you if you pop their back!
stoleyerscrubz said:seems like OMM would be a good fit for those thinking of going into pain fellowships in PM&R, neurology, or anesthesiology.
bones said:An osteopathic approach to patient care (inclusive of functional anatomy) has application in the evaluation and diagnosis of most health problems/conditions that present in the clinical setting.
OMT (osteopathic manipulative treatment) or OMM (osteopathic manipulative medicine) has its efficacy largely dependent on operator skill. Pain management is perhaps its most impressive application, as many patients that have been in debilitating pain for years (treated with everything from chiropractic to morphine to surgery with little to no lasting relief) recover completely after only one or a few focused treatments. Pain management doctors that do not use OMT (as in all allopaths and many DO's that never developed the skill) are often restricted to only treating symptoms (rather than musculoskeletal causes) and thus their patients recover very slowly if at all. Skilled osteopaths use OMT with success in the medical management of many other common serious illnesses as well- including pneumonia, COPD, asthma, and heart failure. Cranial osteopathy has applicability in many neonatal conditions, and has been shown to be especially beneficial in colic, poor feeding, failure to thrive, and cephaloplegia (misshapen skull).
The best osteopathic students find themselves drawn to rehab (physiatry), pain management (via anesthesiology), sports medicine, and neurology- since osteopathic docs in these professions distinguish themselves from all their colleagues and it is critical in the evaluation and treatment in the majority of patients. OMM has limited use in family practice for mild musculoskeletal pain syndromes as well, which generates more income for the practice but may have only modest clinical benefit for the majority of patients seen.
You will find that skill at OMT (if sold correctly) will greatly strengthen your application to the most competetive allopathic residencies in certain specialties- especially rehab medicine. You have a base of musculoskeletal knowledge far above that of most of the other applicants.
If you have any questions feel free to PM me.
bones said:An osteopathic approach to patient care (inclusive of functional anatomy) has application in the evaluation and diagnosis of most health problems/conditions that present in the clinical setting.
OMT (osteopathic manipulative treatment) or OMM (osteopathic manipulative medicine) has its efficacy largely dependent on operator skill. Pain management is perhaps its most impressive application, as many patients that have been in debilitating pain for years (treated with everything from chiropractic to morphine to surgery with little to no lasting relief) recover completely after only one or a few focused treatments. Pain management doctors that do not use OMT (as in all allopaths and many DO's that never developed the skill) are often restricted to only treating symptoms (rather than musculoskeletal causes) and thus their patients recover very slowly if at all. Skilled osteopaths use OMT with success in the medical management of many other common serious illnesses as well- including pneumonia, COPD, asthma, and heart failure. Cranial osteopathy has applicability in many neonatal conditions, and has been shown to be especially beneficial in colic, poor feeding, failure to thrive, and cephaloplegia (misshapen skull).
The best osteopathic students find themselves drawn to rehab (physiatry), pain management (via anesthesiology), sports medicine, and neurology- since osteopathic docs in these professions distinguish themselves from all their colleagues and it is critical in the evaluation and treatment in the majority of patients. OMM has limited use in family practice for mild musculoskeletal pain syndromes as well, which generates more income for the practice but may have only modest clinical benefit for the majority of patients seen.
You will find that skill at OMT (if sold correctly) will greatly strengthen your application to the most competetive allopathic residencies in certain specialties- especially rehab medicine. You have a base of musculoskeletal knowledge far above that of most of the other applicants.
If you have any questions feel free to PM me.
NRAI2001 said:Do u think to properly use OMT a residency in OMT or another residency that emphasizes OMT (some DO Family prac. residencies incorporate a lot of OMT) is required? Or can it be learned by the classes taken during med school?
bones said:If you choose several 3rd and 4th year rotations with the best osteopaths in the country, it will greatly augment your training and you may not even need a fellowship.
I dont want to list a bunch of names for political reasons (this is a small profession where everyone knows everyone else).stoleyerscrubz said:Which programs/osteopaths are you talking about?
So the AOA can continue existing.What are some applications of OMM? I think i read its used to treat pain, but what else?
OMM doesn't work.
It's just an excuse to feel up hawt patients.
Which I'm fine with.
Theoretically OMM cures cancer.
What is OMM used for in real life?
Nothing.
Are you really that bitter about having to go to DO school?
No, I can't be more proud about being a DO student; I even wear a DO pin on my white coat and believe that DO should not merge residency with ACGME and stuff.
How many times do I have to say that I don't mind OMM in general. I'm all for the "power of touch" thing, and HVLA, and muscle energy are just cool
Doesn't change the fact OMM has very limited use in real life, mainly due to a lack of research i guess.
No, I can't be more proud about being a DO student; I even wear a DO pin on my white coat and believe that DO should not merge residency with ACGME and stuff.
How many times do I have to say that I don't mind OMM in general. I'm all for the "power of touch" thing, and HVLA, and muscle energy are just cool
Doesn't change the fact OMM has very limited use in real life, mainly due to a lack of research i guess.
What's your reasoning for not supporting the merger? Personally I will be livid if it falls through.
Have you heard of Paul Standley, PhD?
He came and presented at our research day this year. Pretty cool stuff.
No I have not. What did he say? could you sum it up for me pls?
From what I understand and this issue, I do not see how the merger could benefit us, and will even harm us if they do not successfully prevent MD student from applying to our residency spots. For instance, many DO students depend on those already-limited 100 osteopathic ortho spots in order to fulfill their dreams to become orthopedic surgeons, and their dreams would take a big hit if we were to add MD competition to the mix. And at the present the system allows us to try to match at highly competitive DO spots while having an ACGME back up (which is a huge huge huge huge advantage), I feel the merger could prevent this from happening anymore.
Another theory of the merger is that DO residency positions will simply go under the ACGME umbrella, and MD students would be prevented from applying to DO residency positions. This makes even less sense, why go under the ACGME umbrella if functionally everything will stay status quo, except adding another layer of bureaucracy (ACGME) to the already bureaucratic nature of AOA?
To me, the proposed merger seems to be more reactionary towards ACGME trying to clamp down on Carib students applying to their residencies, but ACGME's wording on such issue made it so that DO students would be inevitably affected too. There's gotta be a better way to go about this.
Basically he was looking at the effects of Myofascial release on healing time in modeled tissue due to resultant release of various different chemical mediators. He's spent a lot of time developing the grown tissue models, reproducible injury and treatment techniques, etc. He's finding that even a single "MFR" treatment can be enough to speed recovery from injury by a significant amount, measured multiple different ways.
From what I understand and this issue, I do not see how the merger could benefit us, and will even harm us if they do not successfully prevent MD student from applying to our residency spots. For instance, many DO students depend on those already-limited 100 osteopathic ortho spots in order to fulfill their dreams to become orthopedic surgeons, and their dreams would take a big hit if we were to add MD competition to the mix. And at the present the system allows us to try to match at highly competitive DO spots while having an ACGME back up (which is a huge huge huge huge advantage), I feel the merger could prevent this from happening anymore.
Another theory of the merger is that DO residency positions will simply go under the ACGME umbrella, and MD students would be prevented from applying to DO residency positions. This makes even less sense, why go under the ACGME umbrella if functionally everything will stay status quo, except adding another layer of bureaucracy (ACGME) to the already bureaucratic nature of AOA?
To me, the proposed merger seems to be more reactionary towards ACGME trying to clamp down on Carib students applying to their residencies, but ACGME's wording on such issue made it so that DO students would be inevitably affected too. There's gotta be a better way to go about this.
Fellowships. The AOA doesn't have every opportunity for DO graduates. Plus, I see the standardization of GME as being good rather than bad.
Fellowships. The AOA doesn't have every opportunity for DO graduates. Plus, I see the standardization of GME as being good rather than bad.
What's the latest update on this situation? SOMA students at my school are saying the merger is happening in 2015/2016 and MDs will be allowed into former AOA residencies in 2018. Anyone hear anything different?
What's the latest update on this situation? SOMA students at my school are saying the merger is happening in 2015/2016 and MDs will be allowed into former AOA residencies in 2018. Anyone hear anything different?
A standardized GME can be achieved without merger, it just needs consensus. Additionally, As we worry about GME, perhaps we should also standardize LCME and COCA accreditation criteria?
If a DO graduate wants to pursue fellowship opportunities, under the current rule, he /she is still very welcomed to apply to one. Even if ACGME and AOA are merged, the attitude of residency directors over at mid to high tier currently-ACGME programs towards us probably wont change. I feel that it is inevitable that DO students will still have stigma attached. So I am not exactly sure where you are going with this point.
http://www.osteopathic.org/inside-aoa/Pages/acgme-frequently-asked-questions.aspx
Have you seen/read this?
OF course I have... many AOA people as well as our own student governmnent have actually talked directly with our class on numerous occasions, with the most recent talk being about 3 weeks ago. What I got from those talks was that there are still too many unknowns. I am surprised that this webpage makes this issue sounds so definite, which is not exactly the vibe I got from the AOA folks . I would take the info on the linked page with a grain of salt.
Yeah, I know. That's what makes me so skeptical about it. Our school has had a few talks and the FOMA President spoke with us during NOM Week. Apparently there are some reservations and perhaps a little cold feet.
What I got from that Q&A page is that everything is technically ok now, but they sort of make it sound like that's because they got the ACGME Board to delay instituting their proposals.
From what I understand and this issue, I do not see how the merger could benefit us, and will even harm us if they do not successfully prevent MD student from applying to our residency spots. For instance, many DO students depend on those already-limited 100 osteopathic ortho spots in order to fulfill their dreams to become orthopedic surgeons, and their dreams would take a big hit if we were to add MD competition to the mix. And at the present the system allows us to try to match at highly competitive DO spots while having an ACGME back up (which is a huge huge huge huge advantage), I feel the merger could prevent this from happening anymore.
Another theory of the merger is that DO residency positions will simply go under the ACGME umbrella, and MD students would be prevented from applying to DO residency positions. This makes even less sense, why go under the ACGME umbrella if functionally everything will stay status quo, except adding another layer of bureaucracy (ACGME) to the already bureaucratic nature of AOA?
To me, the proposed merger seems to be more reactionary towards ACGME trying to clamp down on Carib students applying to their residencies, but ACGME's wording on such issue made it so that DO students would be inevitably affected too. There's gotta be a better way to go about this.
But as SurgeDO said, wouldn't this be the best outcome for DO students? They'd still have their coveted spots (ENT, Ortho, Urology etc) while being accredited as ACGME, thereby, no longer having the little stigma that there is as being associated with AOA accreditation?