Whether it be location, unique mission statement, the community, curriculum, etc. Doesn't have to even be the school you'll be attending!
Top choice school: Nearby to family, in state tuition, also T10 institution for both research and primary care (although I don’t care for primary care), plus big ass mountains to climb nearbyWhether it be location, unique mission statement, the community, curriculum, etc. Doesn't have to even be the school you'll be attending!
How many of those direct primary care programs are there?Top choice is anywhere I can go for free. Next best thing is anywhere I can finish in 3 years.
How many of those direct primary care programs are there?
Where is this magical place?The friendliness of the medical students and administration.
Both of the Washington State schools are pretty chill. Mostly that is because they screen based on MCAT/GPA and then toss the stats once you pass threshold. Holistic admissions process yields holistic applicants.Where is this magical place?
ESFCOM is the only school I know about that is this open about their thresholds. And they are pretty low:Both of the Washington State schools are pretty chill. Mostly that is because they screen based on MCAT/GPA and then toss the stats once you pass threshold. Holistic admissions process yields holistic applicants.
Very few schools actually commit to this 100%. I do agree that unranked P/F in preclinical is helpful. Most schools, even if they say they're P/F in the core clinical year, actually keep some sort of track of how you do. I also agree that unranked class standing is helpful but residency programs will then just rely more on the hints in the MSPE / clinical reviews / letters. It helps to go to a highly ranked school so that the assumption is that most graduates are pretty good.unranked pass/fail grading. Everyone should be doing this
Where is this magical place?
Yeah I have heard that a lot of pass fail schools are "unranked" but still report your quartile or use code words like outstanding/excellent/good that convey the same. Seems like that's just downright deceitful.Very few schools actually commit to this 100%. I do agree that unranked P/F in preclinical is helpful. Most schools, even if they say they're P/F in the core clinical year, actually keep some sort of track of how you do. I also agree that unranked class standing is helpful but residency programs will then just rely more on the hints in the MSPE / clinical reviews / letters. It helps to go to a highly ranked school so that the assumption is that most graduates are pretty good.
The main reason that I went to my med school was that it was the cheapest. But there were a ton of other perks that also helped make the decision.
Yeah I have heard that a lot of pass fail schools are "unranked" but still report your quartile or use code words like outstanding/excellent/good that convey the same. Seems like that's just downright deceitful.
I'm lucky to be at a place that puts zero comparative info about preclinical in the MSPE, it's true pass/fail. It was infamously toxic here just 10-15 years ago and now, there's no reason to gun in preclinical whatsoever. If schools are serious about the whole "wellness" movement, this should be priority #1 for their preclinical curriculum
But they really only accept those with significant ties to the school or that live within the bordering states :/ESFCOM is the only school I know about that is this open about their thresholds. And they are pretty low:
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Not even. That is UW. ESFCOM is strictly Washington state residents.But they really only accept those with significant ties to the school or that live within the bordering states :/
Idk how much class rank helps people differentiate themselves though. Its consistently listed as pretty low importance by PDs. It's all about step1 and clinical grades/recommendations, nobody cares if you were 1st vs 2nd quartile preclinical as far as I've seen and heardIt doesn't hurt top ranked med schools' students to have no differentiation among its class members. The same can't be said of med schools that are lower down in the pecking order.
Idk how much class rank helps people differentiate themselves though. Its consistently listed as pretty low importance by PDs. It's all about step1 and clinical grades/recommendations, nobody cares if you were 1st vs 2nd quartile preclinical as far as I've seen and heard
I'm actually talking about the Charting Outcomes document which surveys all PDs about what they interview and rank based off of. Preclinical performance is unreported here, I'm talking about how PDs say they dont care about preclinicals even when it is reportedThat's useful to know but you're dealing with a sample size limited to your highly ranked medical school.
I'm actually talking about the Charting Outcomes document which surveys all PDs about what they interview and rank based off of. Preclinical performance is unreported here, I'm talking about how PDs say they dont care about preclinicals even when it is reported
Lol mood.It's not in Florida
They accepted me...
It's always been dream school/top choice
Unranked P/F
1 year preclinical
Amazing community, attitude, faculty, student body
Lots of time to enjoy things outside of med school (great amount of breaks too)
Lots of time to explore specialties
Cheapest option
Location
College sports season tickets
Great research opportunities and super available
Prestige, but honestly with all the other stuff this didn't really weigh into my decision at all.
How is there time for lots of breaks with all of preclinical crammed into 1 year?
That's useful to know but you're dealing with a sample size limited to your highly ranked medical school.