What should I do if I get rejected?

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What alternative career could I go for? I only have the education to be a lab assistant... No talent to be a teacher or anything. Should I maybe apply to dental school? I have the greatest respect for my dentist, she saved my tooh. But I have doubts that I could be as good as she is and I notice that her office staff and some of her patients don't give her any respect. And while dentistry is similar to surgical specialties of medicine, I think I was more interested in non-surgical medicine..
 
Have you thought about reapplying next year?
 
Have you thought about reapplying next year?
I already got rejected last year. I was not able to find a job and hence I am in a smp program getting straight A's (hopefully my latest breakdown will not lead to a F). If after this I still get rejected, I just do not see any strength in reapplying. When I got rejected last year my parents were pushing me into caribbean schools, so they no longer support me, even though they think for some reason that I have great chances of getting in this year. And last year they were very surprised and very hard on me for getting rejected. My parents are near retirement age and they have paid for all my tuition and expenses and they insist that I eat at restaurants to save time and they are not rich. I don't know of any careers I could do. I bet if I were to look for a job right now(or next spring) I would have difficulty even getting a lab assistant job at $10/hr, and I certainly have no interest in that.
 
Thank you but I don't believe in God. If my application is not strong enough according to adcoms then I get rejected and move on. I just do not have a plan B at the moment.

My plan B up to this point was to enlist in the Army as a 68W Healthcare Specialist (Medic). It's basically a paramedic for the Army. After your enlistment (4 years or so), you could use the GI Bill to get your civilian paramedic license, or go to nursing school or PA school, or reapply to medical school. Either way, if you want to do patient care, there are a ton of jobs out there outside of being a doctor! These days, PA's do exactly what doctors do anyways, they just make half the money.
 
Instead of worrying about getting rejected, focus on your problem areas and fix them. Do you have enough clinical exposure? Is your MCAT high enough? Did you apply to enough/a good mixture of schools? How about DO schools? These are all things you should be thinking about.
 
Instead of worrying about getting rejected, focus on your problem areas and fix them. Do you have enough clinical exposure? Is your MCAT high enough? Did you apply to enough/a good mixture of schools? How about DO schools? These are all things you should be thinking about.

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My plan B up to this point was to enlist in the Army as a 68W Healthcare Specialist (Medic). It's basically a paramedic for the Army. After your enlistment (4 years or so), you could use the GI Bill to get your civilian paramedic license, or go to nursing school or PA school, or reapply to medical school. Either way, if you want to do patient care, there are a ton of jobs out there outside of being a doctor! These days, PA's do exactly what doctors do anyways, they just make half the money.
Yes, if I wanted to do patient care I could be a nurse. If I wanted adventure I could be an army medic or not. But I am interested in reading those jargon-filled books and going on luxury vacations every chance I get and owning a luxury car and a big house... Do you think I spent all the money on my ugrad and smp just so I could do something that someone out of a CUNY could do? What kind of woman would want to marry a career paramedic? You know doctors can do volunteering/adventures/etc by taking a day out of their week to work on some mountain rescue organization, if they want to. But at the end of the day they make big money because people come to them for their wisdom. They are rewarded for their hard, selfish work , not for their compassion. They can afford to be charitable to inflate their egos. There is absolutely nothing in common between rich EM doctors and paramedics.
I almost enlisted in the national guard last spring. I spent a night at the motel with another guy who was an immigrant from africa seeking money for his college, was woken up at 4am and stood in line for a physical for 12hrs. Then when they gave me the contract I finally realized I would rather be a bum living in florida or in europe than have an "honest job".

p.s. PAs did not get a high mcat or spent 200k of their parents' money on education. It's only in that movie "Meet the Parents" that someone would voluntarily choose to be middle class and subservient to somebody else.
 
Yes, if I wanted to do patient care I could be a nurse. If I wanted adventure I could be an army medic or not. But I am interested in reading those jargon-filled books and going on luxury vacations every chance I get and owning a luxury car and a big house... Do you think I spent all the money on my ugrad and smp just so I could do something that someone out of a CUNY could do? What kind of woman would want to marry a career paramedic? You know doctors can do volunteering/adventures/etc by taking a day out of their week to work on some mountain rescue organization, if they want to. But at the end of the day they make big money because people come to them for their wisdom. They are rewarded for their hard, selfish work , not for their compassion. They can afford to be charitable to inflate their egos. There is absolutely nothing in common between rich EM doctors and paramedics.
I almost enlisted in the national guard last spring. I spent a night at the motel with another guy who was an immigrant from africa seeking money for his college, was woken up at 4am and stood in line for a physical for 12hrs. Then when they gave me the contract I finally realized I would rather be a bum living in florida or in europe than have an "honest job".

p.s. PAs did not get a high mcat or spent 200k of their parents' money on education. It's only in that movie "Meet the Parents" that someone would voluntarily choose to be middle class and subservient to somebody else.

I truly think your mindset is in the way of you getting into med school...
 
Instead of worrying about getting rejected, focus on your problem areas and fix them. Do you have enough clinical exposure? Is your MCAT high enough? Did you apply to enough/a good mixture of schools? How about DO schools? These are all things you should be thinking about.
Mcat is certainly high enough. Combination of mcat/gpa is borderline (certainly people get in with these stats without having enrolled into any smp/postbac programs). I don't think in my essay or in my LORs there is any evidence that I am interested in helping people. But theyre not so bad that I would've gotten rejected if I had a high gpa, though, no red flags. I do have plenty of clinical experiences, but nothing outstanding. My mcat is the most outstanding part of my application.

I did not apply to DO schools last year. This year I applied but my DO apps are still being processed. And this summer I was mad at myself that I had not applied DO last year, but now I feel like I would really,really prefer to get into MD. You can really choose your career after MD, DO is basically 4 more years of SMP. But again I don't feel too optimistic that even a DO school will accept me now.

My problem now is that I am posting stupid messages on a web forum instead of studying, sleeping, or exercising, or even drinking. I had a vacation last week and I completely lost track of myself. Now I started this new class and so far I like it. But I've done very little studying. I intended to read this text from cover to cover (figured it would take 10hrs), but I only read 1 chapter in 1hour and quit. And I must attend a lecture tomorrow morning. And I found the text to be interesting, but I just did not feel like studying. If I keep getting A's I can get those interviews in the spring, but there is no guarantee. And if I stop getting A's I am definitely not getting anywhere.

I think I just had a complete breakdown after I invested all my savings into a vacation last week. This is after I had a 60% return on stock market. I have so little in savings that I intend to spend it all in 10days, while any professional (i.e. a doctor) can invest a small part of his savings on the stock market and if he wins a little he gets a free bmw and if he loses the same amount he can still buy himself a bmw!
 
what the hell do you mean by this?
DO is basically 4 more years of SMP.

Have you considered working on your weaknesses? How about applying to the Caribbean? How about UAG (Mexico)?

If you really want to be a doctor and have it within you, any option is a way of success...
 
I truly think your mindset is in the way of you getting into med school...
I don't even have any interviews. I wouldn't talk like this at an interview, this is an anonymous forum. If you read some message boards people can be really stupid online. It's not that I don't have the right motivations to go to med school. It's the adcoms that keep rejecting me...
 
what the hell do you mean by this?

Have you considered working on your weaknesses? How about applying to the Caribbean? How about UAG (Mexico)?

If you really want to be a doctor and have it within you, any option is a way of success...

no.
 
I am interested in reading those jargon-filled books and going on luxury vacations every chance I get and owning a luxury car and a big house... Do you think I spent all the money on my ugrad and smp just so I could do something that someone out of a CUNY could do?
I finally realized I would rather be a bum living in florida or in europe than have an "honest job".
Let's see here. You want to be a doctor so, essentially, you can be rich without, as you put it, doing any "honest work". I'm seeing a couple of flaws in that plan. Even if you manage to get into med school, you're going to have residency, loan payments, malpractice insurance, etc. It's gonna be at least ten years before you start making any serious money, and that's gonna come at the cost of 12 hour shifts, HUMAN INTERACTION (God forbid--wait, you don't believe in God. Well, then, YOU forbid!), and sidestepping liability issues.With your attitude, I wouldn't be surprised if you got your ass sued in your first year.

If you just wanna get rich, marry rich. If you can't do that, go be a friggin' lawyer or something. Jeez.
 
I don't even have any interviews. I wouldn't talk like this at an interview, this is an anonymous forum. If you read some message boards people can be really stupid online. It's not that I don't have the right motivations to go to med school. It's the adcoms that keep rejecting me...

I think this is my favorite part of your whole argument. "I want to go into medicine to get rich and not have to work, and I don't want to take care of people. But it's not my motivations that are wrong. The adcoms just keep rejecting me!"

I hope I'm never in the same vicinity as you, let alone the same school.
 
Let's see here. You want to be a doctor so, essentially, you can be rich without, as you put it, doing any "honest work". I'm seeing a couple of flaws in that plan. Even if you manage to get into med school, you're going to have residency, loan payments, malpractice insurance, etc. It's gonna be at least ten years before you start making any serious money, and that's gonna come at the cost of 12 hour shifts, HUMAN INTERACTION (God forbid--wait, you don't believe in God. Well, then, YOU forbid!), and sidestepping liability issues.With your attitude, I wouldn't be surprised if you got your ass sued in your first year.

If you just wanna get rich, marry rich. If you can't do that, go be a friggin' lawyer or something. Jeez.
p->q ~= q->p That is I don't mind hard work to get rich. If you look at my scores on mcat or my grades during the first 3months of smp you would see that I proved to be hardworking. But if you're a hardworking and compassionate paramedic, you are still poor. Get it?

Yes there is a risk of getting sued. But I wouldn't worry about it. As I said, with all the flaws medicine is competitive, because drs have it so good. You can work 12hr shifts 12nights/month(oh how awful) and make enough money to spend the other 20days _____ (name a woman or a hobby of your choice).
Lawyers are not rich and I have aptitude in biology, not ****ing writing or arguing. Lawyers should be compared to paramedics, not doctors. They need to work very hard and attend t-14 school just to get those corporate law jobs that pay $150k/yr in nyc and if they take a 6week vacation or fail to edit some paper they are fired. Doctors make twice that and can live in an area that has 1/5th the COL.
 
I think this is my favorite part of your whole argument. "I want to go into medicine to get rich and not have to work, and I don't want to take care of people. But it's not my motivations that are wrong. The adcoms just keep rejecting me!"

I hope I'm never in the same vicinity as you, let alone the same school.
Chances are if you post on this forum I don't want to talk to you in real life. You misquote me and you are an illogical hypocrite with a poor mcat who pretends to be compassionate while taking the time to write how much of a loser someone is when he merely writes about his personal misfortunes.

I am done with this forum. I have wasted way too much time. I think I still have it in me to study full day for the next 10 days. Then I can get another A and go on a luxury vacation where I will get the treatment I deserve. If I still get rejected, I'll deal with it later.
 
Chances are if you post on this forum I don't want to talk to you in real life. You misquote me and you are an illogical hypocrite with a poor mcat who pretends to be compassionate while taking the time to write how much of a loser someone is when he merely writes about his personal misfortunes.

I am done with this forum. I have wasted way too much time. I think I still have it in me to study full day for the next 10 days. Then I can get another A and go on a luxury vacation where I will get the treatment I deserve. If I still get rejected, I'll deal with it later.

I think this forum may be done with you too :laugh:
 
oh wow, if you talk like this, even in an anonymous forum, chances are, you're gonna talk like this in the interview too.
 
double-posted, sorry.
 
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Chances are if you post on this forum I don't want to talk to you in real life. You misquote me and you are an illogical hypocrite with a poor mcat who pretends to be compassionate while taking the time to write how much of a loser someone is when he merely writes about his personal misfortunes.

I am done with this forum. I have wasted way too much time. I think I still have it in me to study full day for the next 10 days. Then I can get another A and go on a luxury vacation where I will get the treatment I deserve. If I still get rejected, I'll deal with it later.

Okay, thanks for the memories and the misconceptions. It was a pleasure knowing you, Mr. Troll.
 
IMO there is no wonder he is getting rejected... they probably have figured his attitude thats why no school interview him...:laugh: well. too bad...

saying all he want was having a luxurious life and no interest for helping people.. well GREEDINESS WONT LEAD YOU TO SUCCESS BUDDY...
 
Yes, if I wanted to do patient care I could be a nurse. If I wanted adventure I could be an army medic or not. But I am interested in reading those jargon-filled books and going on luxury vacations every chance I get and owning a luxury car and a big house... Do you think I spent all the money on my ugrad and smp just so I could do something that someone out of a CUNY could do? What kind of woman would want to marry a career paramedic? You know doctors can do volunteering/adventures/etc by taking a day out of their week to work on some mountain rescue organization, if they want to. But at the end of the day they make big money because people come to them for their wisdom. They are rewarded for their hard, selfish work , not for their compassion. They can afford to be charitable to inflate their egos. There is absolutely nothing in common between rich EM doctors and paramedics.
I almost enlisted in the national guard last spring. I spent a night at the motel with another guy who was an immigrant from africa seeking money for his college, was woken up at 4am and stood in line for a physical for 12hrs. Then when they gave me the contract I finally realized I would rather be a bum living in florida or in europe than have an "honest job".

p.s. PAs did not get a high mcat or spent 200k of their parents' money on education. It's only in that movie "Meet the Parents" that someone would voluntarily choose to be middle class and subservient to somebody else.

Are you for real? You didn't get in last year and you probably won't this year...but you don't want to work a real job because it's somehow below you? That's only true for three types of people: the smart, the experienced, and the rich. You are neither.

I think I just had a complete breakdown after I invested all my savings into a vacation last week. This is after I had a 60% return on stock market. I have so little in savings that I intend to spend it all in 10days, while any professional (i.e. a doctor) can invest a small part of his savings on the stock market and if he wins a little he gets a free bmw and if he loses the same amount he can still buy himself a bmw!

And on top of that, you blow all of your savings on a vacation? You're a megalomaniac if I've ever seen one. You'd better come up with a better plan than bumming around "Florida or Europe," because you're going nowhere fast. :laugh:
 
Chances are if you post on this forum I don't want to talk to you in real life. You misquote me and you are an illogical hypocrite with a poor mcat who pretends to be compassionate while taking the time to write how much of a loser someone is when he merely writes about his personal misfortunes.

I am done with this forum. I have wasted way too much time. I think I still have it in me to study full day for the next 10 days. Then I can get another A and go on a luxury vacation where I will get the treatment I deserve. If I still get rejected, I'll deal with it later.

Thank God (which you don't believe in). I thought that troll would never leave.
 
I don't even have any interviews. I wouldn't talk like this at an interview, this is an anonymous forum. If you read some message boards people can be really stupid online. It's not that I don't have the right motivations to go to med school. It's the adcoms that keep rejecting me...

You remind me of a guy I met at an interview...he had 7 interviews the previous year, but he was reapplying this year. He had great stats, but you should of heard how full he was of himself. Sounds like you, except he had interviews :laugh:.

It sounds like you don't want to be a doctor, you just want to be rich, and it probably comes through in your writing, and it would too if you were at an interview. My new advice: get your MBA and make cut-throat money in the business world (which takes hard work and lots of backstabbing). And please don't go DO: you would hate every second of it because you already look down on them! Stay out of medicine please please please.
 
Originally Posted by GOD
Well, my boy, I think you might as well start believing in me.
I don't know if anyone else saw this because it was in a post with all quotes and kind of camouflaged, but I laughed for a solid 30-40 seconds.
 
man u shud get lots of brownie points for that =p
 
Yes, if I wanted to do patient care I could be a nurse. If I wanted adventure I could be an army medic or not. But I am interested in reading those jargon-filled books and going on luxury vacations every chance I get and owning a luxury car and a big house... Do you think I spent all the money on my ugrad and smp just so I could do something that someone out of a CUNY could do? What kind of woman would want to marry a career paramedic? You know doctors can do volunteering/adventures/etc by taking a day out of their week to work on some mountain rescue organization, if they want to. But at the end of the day they make big money because people come to them for their wisdom. They are rewarded for their hard, selfish work , not for their compassion. They can afford to be charitable to inflate their egos. There is absolutely nothing in common between rich EM doctors and paramedics.
I almost enlisted in the national guard last spring. I spent a night at the motel with another guy who was an immigrant from africa seeking money for his college, was woken up at 4am and stood in line for a physical for 12hrs. Then when they gave me the contract I finally realized I would rather be a bum living in florida or in europe than have an "honest job".

p.s. PAs did not get a high mcat or spent 200k of their parents' money on education. It's only in that movie "Meet the Parents" that someone would voluntarily choose to be middle class and subservient to somebody else.
wow. You had my sympathy before you wrote THAT ^. You seem to think that you are entitled to a Med school spot when the truth is-no matter how hard you worked to get your GPA and MCAT- you need actually want to do the job, not just get paid for it.
 
I hope the OP is a troll. Really, I do. I mean, yes, ppl should expect a certain aspect of fin. and job security being a physician, nothing wrong with that, being comfortable after all the years of hard work is the right mindset to have, but honestly to the ppl who are debating about whether they want to do medicine for the money, don't do it, EVERY single doctor said it's not worth the money if you hate it, because you spend soooo much time at your job.
 
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I don't think in my essay or in my LORs there is any evidence that I am interested in helping people.

My mcat is the most outstanding part of my application.

Well, goody for you. You can take a test. Unfortunately for you, the MCAT is only a portion of the admissions process. Wanting to help people (if you plan on going into practice, rather than research, and it sounds like you want to go into practice) is kind of a key component. No, it shouldn't be your sole reason for going to med school, but you certainly need to have that desire.

I think I just had a complete breakdown after I invested all my savings into a vacation last week. This is after I had a 60% return on stock market. I have so little in savings that I intend to spend it all in 10days, while any professional (i.e. a doctor) can invest a small part of his savings on the stock market and if he wins a little he gets a free bmw and if he loses the same amount he can still buy himself a bmw!

Poor money management. Hun, you won't make it much of anywhere even with a doctor's salary with the way you spend money. How the heck do you expect to make it through med school??

I'm with whoever above said they'd rather marry a career paramedic than an ******* doctor like you. Money is certainly nice to have, but there are far more important things once you make enough to live comfortably (and my definition of 'comfortably' is being able to pay your basic bills (utilities, a car, a house, food, etc) and still have enough to go out and have a night out on the town every once and a while. One of those is a personality. Yours is not one I'd want to be around.
 
What alternative career could I go for? I only have the education to be a lab assistant... No talent to be a teacher or anything. Should I maybe apply to dental school? I have the greatest respect for my dentist, she saved my tooh. But I have doubts that I could be as good as she is and I notice that her office staff and some of her patients don't give her any respect. And while dentistry is similar to surgical specialties of medicine, I think I was more interested in non-surgical medicine..

i'd recommend pharmacy or dental or physical assistant
all of the following are pretty good fields to go into if you dont get into medical school
 
i'd recommend pharmacy or dental or physical assistant
all of the following are pretty good fields to go into if you dont get into medical school
I'm not so sure about that...I have a feeling the admissions people at PA and dental schools wouldn't like his attitude either.
 
They are rewarded for their hard, selfish work , not for their compassion. They can afford to be charitable to inflate their egos. There is absolutely nothing in common between rich EM doctors and paramedics.
False, false, false. ER doctors work sometimes up to 80 hours a week, often not knowing when or IF they'll get compensated for their work. Hardly selfish. And really, most young doctors aren't even "rich"...they make good money, yes, but they aren't rolling in millions and buying BMWs for kicks. You're living in a fantasy world.

If you really want to make millions and millions, go into the tech field, invent something epic, and retire. Or are the lifestyles of Bill Gates/Steve Jobs/etc not good enough for you?
 
Yeah.. he was a troll. He was replying, consistently, from 2AM to 5AM (I don't know what time zone, but still..).

I don't really have a problem, in most cases, with someone only working for the money. But, the idea that someone would want to get into medicine to get rich is just dumb. My best friend has a relative that got his MBA from the Wharton School and is now a millionaire working for a hedge fund.. he's 25, apparently.

On top of all that idiocy in the OP's thinking, of how to get rich quick, I'm sure Hippocrates is rolling over in his grave.
 
Yes, if I wanted to do patient care I could be a nurse. If I wanted adventure I could be an army medic or not. But I am interested in reading those jargon-filled books and going on luxury vacations every chance I get and owning a luxury car and a big house... Do you think I spent all the money on my ugrad and smp just so I could do something that someone out of a CUNY could do? What kind of woman would want to marry a career paramedic? You know doctors can do volunteering/adventures/etc by taking a day out of their week to work on some mountain rescue organization, if they want to. But at the end of the day they make big money because people come to them for their wisdom. They are rewarded for their hard, selfish work , not for their compassion. They can afford to be charitable to inflate their egos. There is absolutely nothing in common between rich EM doctors and paramedics.
I almost enlisted in the national guard last spring. I spent a night at the motel with another guy who was an immigrant from africa seeking money for his college, was woken up at 4am and stood in line for a physical for 12hrs. Then when they gave me the contract I finally realized I would rather be a bum living in florida or in europe than have an "honest job".

p.s. PAs did not get a high mcat or spent 200k of their parents' money on education. It's only in that movie "Meet the Parents" that someone would voluntarily choose to be middle class and subservient to somebody else.

PAs are "middle class"? - Since when is making 100K middle class?
And PAs "did not get a high mcat"? - PAs don't take the MCAT, but considering they take most of the exact same pre-requisites, (8 credits Gen Chem, 8 credits O.Chem, 4 credits Biochem, PLUS Anatomy w/ Lab, Physiology w/ Lab, Medical Terminology, Microbiology, etc etc [I also took Pathophysiology, Pharmacology, and Biochethics and Nutrition]} taking the MCAT and scoring similarly to any random pre-med student or higher would be up to the level of preparedness of either of them.

I was pursuing medical school until I had a change of circumstance - mostly financially, and some having to do with my future family and other life-planning timeline - until I realized I could do a very similar job as a PA (in family practice anyhow), with the added perk (yes PERK, not disadvantage) of being a "subordinate" as you like to call us.

To you, and anyone else with the misconception that getting in to PA school is a "walk-in-the-park" breeze compared to getting into medical school: the interview and admission stats are almost identical to those of medical schools, on average. Plus you have to have patient contact hours for the overwhelming majority of them. Why PA then? Because it is only a 2 year masters degree, compared with a 4 year doctorate, and there is no residency but you get to do a similar job, help lots of people who need it, and make very decent money. It's a great choice if you have no interest in specializing.

If your heart is in the right place and you want to help others, then please explain to me the disadvantage in having the opportunity to be in a position of being able to report to a person with more training than you to double check over anything you are not completely sure about, thus maintaining optimal patient care and safety with 2 sets of eyes looking over the item in question? On the other hand, it does not really sound like your heart is in the right place, and as another poster stated "Hippocrates would be rolling in his grave". The practice of medicine is a PRIVILEGE, reserved to those who are intelligent, yes, but even more so for those who are mature and evolved enough as human beings to care for those who need it. Not "rich enough" or "important enough" as you seem to be implying. You may be smart, and I don't doubt your grades are very good and that you are capable of learning the vast amounts of knowledge required to be a competent physician, or PA for that matter, but your attitude is rotten. I'd be sad (as would most of your future patients, most of who will be so despicably "middle class" as you abhor) if the admissions council didn't see through your superiority complex and lack of understanding of today’s health care team and DID let you in before you matured a great deal.
 
PAs are "middle class"? - Since when is making 100K middle class?
And PAs "did not get a high mcat"? - PAs don't take the MCAT, but considering they take most of the exact same pre-requisites, (8 credits Gen Chem, 8 credits O.Chem, 4 credits Biochem, PLUS Anatomy w/ Lab, Physiology w/ Lab, Medical Terminology, Microbiology, etc etc [I also took Pathophysiology, Pharmacology, and Biochethics and Nutrition]} taking the MCAT and scoring similarly to any random pre-med student or higher would be up to the level of preparedness of either of them.

I was pursuing medical school until I had a change of circumstance - mostly financially, and some having to do with my future family and other life-planning timeline - until I realized I could do a very similar job as a PA (in family practice anyhow), with the added perk (yes PERK, not disadvantage) of being a "subordinate" as you like to call us.

To you, and anyone else with the misconception that getting in to PA school is a "walk-in-the-park" breeze compared to getting into medical school: the interview and admission stats are almost identical to those of medical schools, on average. Plus you have to have patient contact hours for the overwhelming majority of them. Why PA then? Because it is only a 2 year masters degree, compared with a 4 year doctorate, and there is no residency but you get to do a similar job, help lots of people who need it, and make very decent money. It's a great choice if you have no interest in specializing.

If your heart is in the right place and you want to help others, then please explain to me the disadvantage in having the opportunity to be in a position of being able to report to a person with more training than you to double check over anything you are not completely sure about, thus maintaining optimal patient care and safety with 2 sets of eyes looking over the item in question? On the other hand, it does not really sound like your heart is in the right place, and as another poster stated "Hippocrates would be rolling in his grave". The practice of medicine is a PRIVILEGE, reserved to those who are intelligent, yes, but even more so for those who are mature and evolved enough as human beings to care for those who need it. Not "rich enough" or "important enough" as you seem to be implying. You may be smart, and I don't doubt your grades are very good and that you are capable of learning the vast amounts of knowledge required to be a competent physician, or PA for that matter, but your attitude is rotten. I'd be sad (as would most of your future patients, most of who will be so despicably "middle class" as you abhor) if the admissions council didn't see through your superiority complex and lack of understanding of today’s health care team and DID let you in before you matured a great deal.

Very good points. Fortunately, our troll won't be reading them, or burdening us with his arrogance anymore! I believe he is "done with this forum". Thank the FSM for that!
 
Yeah.. he was a troll. He was replying, consistently, from 2AM to 5AM (I don't know what time zone, but still..).

I don't really have a problem, in most cases, with someone only working for the money. But, the idea that someone would want to get into medicine to get rich is just dumb. My best friend has a relative that got his MBA from the Wharton School and is now a millionaire working for a hedge fund.. he's 25, apparently.

On top of all that idiocy in the OP's thinking, of how to get rich quick, I'm sure Hippocrates is rolling over in his grave.

Well, I'm guilty of replying during such ridiculous hours, but it's my diversion from studying...not a good habit, but I certainly hope nobody considers me a troll 🙂

It's bad enough when the best applicants take such an elitist tone, but it's even more obnoxious when they still have that attitude even after being rejected. Does he wonder why, really? Even if he had exemplary stats, I hope the ADCOMs would see right through him.

My fiance is finishing PA school. He had a 3.8 GPA undergrad in a non-science field, and a 3.96 as a post-bacc "pre-med," though he wasn't sure what he wanted to do, and he grew increasingly uncertain that he wanted to put so much time into academics. He didn't really know about the PA profession, but as soon as he learned about it, he applied. He's supportive of my medical school goals, but he wants to get to work as quickly as possible and do something he's proud of doing.

I learned most of what I know about medicine primarily from nurses before I decided that I wanted to pursue medical school. Ask med students and residents today, and the good ones will tell you they also learned from nurses as well as PAs. As much as everyone wants to break down the whole health care field into "class," it doesn't exist. It's really a group of people who have similar education with a different spin on it who work together to provide the best possible care for patients (ideally)...it's basically a syncytium. Anyone who makes sweeping statements like this is clearly ignorant.

Listen to what the general public thinks right now, and you'll find that most people would prefer to consult with an NP or PA, since the MD/DO is often too busy to take time to really listen to them. As aspiring MDs, then, we should strive to be more like them! It's an unfortunate consequence of modern medicine that physicians as a whole are not earning the trust of the general public. Those of us entering the field need to learn from ALL health professionals.
 
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