what should my dentist write in his LOR?

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hey guys i've asked my dentist who i've been shadowing for the past couple of months to write me a letter of rec but he's unsure of what he's supposed to write and so am i..he said if i want it to sound like im the next best thing since sliced bread he would do that..he just doesn't know what sort of stuff he's supposed to say..any suggestions?
 
1. that your comptent
2. eager to serve the community
3. manual dextrity
4. personable
5. something that he knows about you, that only real friends and family know. (makes it sound more genuine)
6. Finally that you would make a great dentist in the future.
7. one more thing, if he wants, how long you volunteered in the office. (gives the admin people an idea of wether you actually volunteered for a couple of months or a couple of days)

hd
 
hockeydentist said:
1. that your comptent
2. eager to serve the community
3. manual dextrity
4. personable
5. something that he knows about you, that only real friends and family know. (makes it sound more genuine)
6. Finally that you would make a great dentist in the future.
7. one more thing, if he wants, how long you volunteered in the office. (gives the admin people an idea of wether you actually volunteered for a couple of months or a couple of days)

hd

Great list - hand that in to him. By the way, I am a bit perplexed as to how a professional, such as a dentist, who has gone through a similar experience such as yourself, doesn't know what to write. After all, he went to dental school and should have some idea of what they are looking for...strange...
 
Sprgrover said:
Great list - hand that in to him. By the way, I am a bit perplexed as to how a professional, such as a dentist, who has gone through a similar experience such as yourself, doesn't know what to write. After all, he went to dental school and should have some idea of what they are looking for...strange...

Have you ever tried writing your own letter of recommendation? Try it yourself - write what you think would be the ideal letter of rec. and come up with something that doesn't sound cheesy or redundant and at the same time is genuine and unique. It's hard! I can see why the dentist would be confused b/c unless you've sat on an adcom, it's hard to judge what the committee is looking for in the successful applicant's letter of rec.
 
thanks! i'm going to give him that list..yeah i don't know i figured he'd know what to say but he says things r a lot different from when he went to dental school 25 years ago
 
griffin04 said:
Have you ever tried writing your own letter of recommendation? Try it yourself - write what you think would be the ideal letter of rec. and come up with something that doesn't sound cheesy or redundant and at the same time is genuine and unique. It's hard! I can see why the dentist would be confused b/c unless you've sat on an adcom, it's hard to judge what the committee is looking for in the successful applicant's letter of rec.

As a matter of fact I have written letters of recommendation for myself, at the request of various professors, and understand not only the goal in writing one but also the intent behind the request for one. The goal is not to be 'unique', and above all else write to an adcom with what you think/hope they want to hear, but rather to provide a succinct and balanced assesment of the applicant's skills and abilities evaluated from the standpoint of a practitioner. Don't belive me? Go over to DentalTown and do some searches - there are plenty of current adcom members posting their loathness of the heart-warming blather that saturates personal essays and applications crossing their desks. I am perplexed that he is a professional that has undergone years of training, has had to endure the same application process that the OP is currently undertaking, more than likely was awake during dental school and talked about the admissions process with students and faculty, is currently working in the field of dentistry, and hopefully has formulated an opinion about the direction the profession will take during the next thirty or so years. His is not the role to divine what lurks in the hearts and minds of adcoms but rather craft a letter, which addresses a broad audience, assessing the calibur of the applicant and how well he sees the OP contributing to the future of the field. Does the OP work well with others and would make for a good boss? Can the OP easily establish a rapport with patients? After all, he more than likely needed LOR along his journey, and should recognize that he can provide a unique view of applicant. Chances are the other LOR testify to academics, therefore it would be ideal for his to comment on the OP within the space of a dental office and not a classroom. On the one hand it's natural for a recommendor to ask "What would you like me to include in your assesment?" and "Precisely what or whom is this for?", though on the other hand a recommender, such as a professor of doctor, should have a rough idea of what constitutes a good letter and the aim of such a document. Herein lies my confusion.

To the OP: If you read this, then I would like to add that his willingness to write for you is wonderful, don't get me wrong. Imagine that you are in a box and each LOR provides for a little window through which an adcom can glimpse you: a good portfolio of LOR will give a spectrum of your personality, personal ethics, academic and professional abilities and so on. With that in mind I would advise you to go talk to your other LOR and ask them what were some of the points that they raised in their letters. You don't have to know specifics, and they should be willing to mention the many positive points they raised in their letters. Together with the knowledge of what others have said about you, you can sit down with your dentist and cover other aspects that will provide a more complete picture for those reviewing your file. After all is said and done, don't forget to thank each and every one of them for helping your realize your goal of becoming a dentist. 👍
 
sprgrover: Most people not involved in academics and admissions tend to not talk about it in great detail anymore once they've been out of the admissions loop for some years. If this dentist is a private practitioner practicing for 25 years with no affiliation with a dental school, it is likely he's forgotten what admissions committees want or doesn't even know how the dental admissions process has changed in the last 25 years. I don't really even try to offer specific info on getting into my dental school anymore, b/c a lot has changed even in the 5 years since my class applied for the class of 2004. Here's an example - at Buffalo, the average PAT score for the incoming class was 16 for the dental classes who started dental school in late 90s, six years later the average of the starting classes is now at least 18.

I'll check out the professors who are complaining over at Dental Town when I get a chance. I don't blame them - it's hard to write letters of rec! Of course, it is my personal belief that a letter of rec. will rarely make or break the admissions decision. The committees probably do read them, but unless they explicitly say "This person sucks and here is why..." (and sometimes they do get bad ones), the letters of rec. probably don't have as much of an effect on getting an interview as good DAT and GPA do. However, my colleagues and I were just arguing about this the other day and they don't agree with me, so maybe I'm in the minority on this one.
 
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