what's with baylor??

[AASDDS1]

i see people getting rejected from this school left and right - people who at the same time are getting acceptances from harvard/penn.

it's a decent school and all but i don't really understand what they're exactly looking for. has anyone figured it out or talked to someone on admissions that was able to offer some insight. grades/DAT/shadowing don't really seem to be deciding factors.

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[TheLoveMD]

i see people getting rejected from this school left and right - people who at the same time are getting acceptances from harvard/penn.

it's a decent school and all but i don't really understand what they're exactly looking for. has anyone figured it out or talked to someone on admissions that was able to offer some insight. grades/DAT/shadowing don't really seem to be deciding factors.

texas schools are required by state law to have a preference for in state applicants or they lose funding...this may be the cause...usually, OOS applicants have only a few spots and they are extremely competitive because of Baylor's cheap tuition, even for OOS applicants (this is true for all texas grad schools, i believe)

 

[Scoopie12]

Like the previous poster stated, Baylor is required to accept somewhere in the 90% range of its class from the state of Texas. In addition, if you look at doc toothache's thread of "Affirmative Action" you will see that in 2008 Baylor had the highest percent for acceptance of both Hispanics and African Americans in schools that were not known as URM schools (Howard, Meharry, and Puerto Rico).

 

[DelToro06]

Like the previous poster stated, Baylor is required to accept somewhere in the 90% range of its class from the state of Texas. In addition, if you look at doc toothache's thread of "Affirmative Action" you will see that in 2008 Baylor had the highest percent for acceptance of both Hispanics and African Americans in schools that were not known as URM schools (Howard, Meharry, and Puerto Rico).

Baylor doesnt specifically accept Hispanics and African Americans as part of affirmative action. The reason they have so many in every class is b/c Baylor has a post-bacc program that students who have been rejected from baylor can apply to. Its one year long and consists of the 1st summer studyring for the DAT and getting at least a 18 on every subject. Then they take science courses in the fall and spring semester from the local university and if they make the min gpa(required by baylor) they are automatically accepted into their dental school. 16 students are picked for this program every year. However, the majority or all of them are minorities for this program. Its supposed to be students from economic disadvantages and such.

 

[Scoopie12]

Baylor doesnt specifically accept Hispanics and African Americans as part of affirmative action. The reason they have so many in every class is b/c Baylor has a post-bacc program that students who have been rejected from baylor can apply to. Its one year long and consists of the 1st summer studyring for the DAT and getting at least a 18 on every subject. Then they take science courses in the fall and spring semester from the local university and if they make the min gpa(required by baylor) they are automatically accepted into their dental school. 16 students are picked for this program every year. However, the majority or all of them are minorities for this program. Its supposed to be students from economic disadvantages and such.

Sorry about that, I wasn't trying to suggest it was for affirmative action, I was just trying to reference the thread from doc toothache as that is what he calls the thread in his sig. I am aware of the post-bacc program but that is not where the numbers come from. They took 43 African American and Hispanic students in 2008, that is almost three times the amount in the post-bacc program so that is not where all the numbers come from. Baylor just believes in taking a very diverse class, if you've ever been to the Baylor campus they also have a number of Asian students and Indian students. I'm just trying to say, the reason a lot of people may not get into Baylor that got into Harvard is because of their priority in diversifying the class which I don't have a problem with just explaining the answer.

 

[alanan84]

The first reason for this is they only have like 9 OOS spots and they get like 500 to 600 OOS apps (which is crazy). Obviously a lot of great OOS applicants are going to get rejected.

The second reason is that they like to see a lot of upper level sciences and they DON'T like to see a stop in your education. In other words, they want you to be a bio major and they want you to keep taking classes basically up until matriculation.

I think it has a whole lot more to do with those reasons than that they accept a lot of URM's.

 

[drm85]

I know that it is not completely indicative of the population of the school and just a small sampling of my experience but on my interview day (all out of state applicants) there were, I think, 7 white men, 1 white woman and 1 black man

 

[sprintuser]

I know most colleges don't consider Asians to be a minority, so is that also the same with Baylor? The post-bacc program sounds really nice...

I was also look at their admissions stats and it says that 19 students from A&M were accepted and only 10 from UT Austin. I was surprised considering, the fact that UT is a more difficult school. Since the official name of the school is "Baylor College of Dentistry Texas A&M University System Health Sciences," are students who graduate from A&M preferred over those from UT?

 

[coralteeth]

I know most colleges don't consider Asians to be a minority, so is that also the same with Baylor? The post-bacc program sounds really nice...

I was also look at their admissions stats and it says that 19 students from A&M were accepted and only 10 from UT Austin. I was surprised considering, the fact that UT is a more difficult school. Since the official name of the school is "Baylor College of Dentistry Texas A&M University System Health Sciences," are students who graduate from A&M preferred over those from UT?

that just means 19 aggies matriculated and 10 longhorns matriculated and not that only those numbers were accepted.

 

[sprintuser]

that just means 19 aggies matriculated and 10 longhorns matriculated and not that only those numbers were accepted.

Actually, I was looking at the pre-matriculation report:
http://www.tambcd.edu/education/admissions/pdfs/newclassdata0809.pdf

It looks like there are always more students accepted from A&M than UT. The number of students accepted from different colleges also remains pretty consistent between 2008 and 2009.

 

[DelToro06]

Actually, I was looking at the pre-matriculation report:
http://www.tambcd.edu/education/admissions/pdfs/newclassdata0809.pdf

It looks like there are always more students accepted from A&M than UT. The number of students accepted from different colleges also remains pretty consistent between 2008 and 2009.

A&M matriculates more students into dentistry and medicine than any other university in the state of texas. I dont know why, might be that more people that attend A&M apply to these professional programs, but the trend has been that way for a few years now.

 

[lphiewok]

probably because you can get higher GPA at A&M b/c it's easier there while it still is recognized as one of more competitive state schools in Texas..

(im a longhorn so it's obviously just a joke..😉)

 

[sprintuser]

A&M matriculates more students into dentistry and medicine than any other university in the state of texas. I dont know why, might be that more people that attend A&M apply to these professional programs, but the trend has been that way for a few years now.

It seems like everyone who's a bio or chem major (also some from other majors) at UT is either pre-med, pre-pharm, or pre-dent, so I think both schools should have similar numbers applying to those professional school. I'm beginning to wonder if it's a disadvantage going to UT, especially since UT started using the +/- grading, while A&M still uses the single letter grade system.

 

[alanan84]

It seems like everyone who's a bio or chem major (also some from other majors) at UT is either pre-med, pre-pharm, or pre-dent, so I think both schools should have similar numbers applying to those professional school. I'm beginning to wonder if it's a disadvantage going to UT, especially since UT started using the +/- grading, while A&M still uses the single letter grade system.

I don't know, the +/- grading system goes both ways. If you're on the single letter grade system, getting an 89 really sucks.

 

[Scoopie12]

I know most colleges don't consider Asians to be a minority, so is that also the same with Baylor? The post-bacc program sounds really nice...

I was also look at their admissions stats and it says that 19 students from A&M were accepted and only 10 from UT Austin. I was surprised considering, the fact that UT is a more difficult school. Since the official name of the school is "Baylor College of Dentistry Texas A&M University System Health Sciences," are students who graduate from A&M preferred over those from UT?

Wow, by your math, Texas Tech must be an Ivy League school since they only got 2 students in. But besides your ability to judge the caliber of an undergraduate university it is possible that A&M students chose to attend Baylor because they were familiar with the A&M Health Science Center name. Maybe more UT students also chose to attend Houston or San Antonio because of their affiliation with UT as well. Don't know, but I wouldn't but a lot of stock into Baylor accepting more A&M students, sounds pretty conspiracy.

 

[sprintuser]

Wow, by your math, Texas Tech must be an Ivy League school since they only got 2 students in. But besides your ability to judge the caliber of an undergraduate university it is possible that A&M students chose to attend Baylor because they were familiar with the A&M Health Science Center name. Maybe more UT students also chose to attend Houston or San Antonio because of their affiliation with UT as well. Don't know, but I wouldn't but a lot of stock into Baylor accepting more A&M students, sounds pretty conspiracy.

If you read more carefully, you will see that I provide a link for the pre-matriculation stats. I was also implying that a more difficult school would have more students accepted, which make sense with 2 students accepted from Tech.

 

[redraider2009]

If you read more carefully, you will see that I provide a link for the pre-matriculation stats. I was also implying that a more difficult school would have more students accepted, which make sense with 2 students accepted from Tech.

As a Tech alum and a Class of 2014 for Baylor Dental student, I know that the number of students that are pre-med or pre-dent are no where near the students that attend UT or A&M. For example, the pre-dent society at tech only has about 15 dedicated members with some being freshman or sophomores. Its too bad they do not show the numbers that applied from all 3 schools.

 

[jay47]

I know most colleges don't consider Asians to be a minority, so is that also the same with Baylor? The post-bacc program sounds really nice...

I was also look at their admissions stats and it says that 19 students from A&M were accepted and only 10 from UT Austin. I was surprised considering, the fact that UT is a more difficult school. Since the official name of the school is "Baylor College of Dentistry Texas A&M University System Health Sciences," are students who graduate from A&M preferred over those from UT?

I have some "inside" info on this topic...

First of all, where do you get off that UT is a "more difficult" institution than TAMU? I'm sure that both schools vary greatly amongst majors and colleges. Like a previous poster said, A&M matriculates more ppl to dental school than any other school in TX. That is for a lot of reasons:

A. We have a great program called the Biomedical Sciences (BIMS) see here--> http://honors.tamu.edu/downloads/opgsa/Dentchart09.pdf (lots of BIO + BIMS), with lots of classes taught by the same teachers at the Vet school, which is a GOOD thing= professional levels (just about) in undergrad. Not to knock the Bio dept, which is also very good

B. We have an AWESOME professional school advising system called OPSA. It really helps give us an edge when applying.

C. Baylor has been known to have a few Aggies on the admissions committee...

D. If UT were really the "harder/better" school..then why don't they have more people matriculating since they have close associations with TWO dental schools in TX?.....SA and Houston

 

[sprintuser]

I can't seem to find the total number of students from A&M accepted into dental school. In 2008, 46 from UT were accepted.

As for med school in 2008, 354 from UT and 168 from A&M.

 

[lphiewok]

I have some "inside" info on this topic...

First of all, where do you get off that UT is a "more difficult" institution than TAMU? I'm sure that both schools vary greatly amongst majors and colleges. Like a previous poster said, A&M matriculates more ppl to dental school than any other school in TX. That is for a lot of reasons:

A. We have a great program called the Biomedical Sciences (BIMS) see here--> http://honors.tamu.edu/downloads/opgsa/Dentchart09.pdf (lots of BIO + BIMS), with lots of classes taught by the same teachers at the Vet school, which is a GOOD thing= professional levels (just about) in undergrad. Not to knock the Bio dept, which is also very good

B. We have an AWESOME professional school advising system called OPSA. It really helps give us an edge when applying.

C. Baylor has been known to have a few Aggies on the admissions committee...

D. If UT were really the "harder/better" school..then why don't they have more people matriculating since they have close associations with TWO dental schools in TX?.....SA and Houston

at least everyone in texas knows that a&m is a back-up for those that couldn't get into UT unless your parents are aggies 😛 JK

okay all the jokes aside, it's true that it doesn't matter wherever you go to undergrad as far as getting admission into dental school.
All 3 Texas schools are state-funded and therefore accept mostly in-state applicants. Since Texas has one of the largest population in US, i think there is not enough spot for OOS to get..