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I'm a student at UCSD right now, freshman, and it's final (for the end of winter quarter).

I got a 2.67 last quarter and this quarter looks to be about the same. I took 12 units last quarter and 16 units this quarter.

I really, really, really, want UCLA or any school in southern California. But most importantly, I really wanna go to a dental school.

But because of my GPA, I think I'm not qualified enough. Sure, I can get 4.0 next year and the year after and raise that sucker GPA up to like a 3.7 which is amazing, but that isn't realistic.

What should I do? Ugh. Hope is lost.
 
Dude you need to calm down. I bombed my freshman year. First semester, 1.87 GPA, but after a year I got it to a 2.87 and now it's past a 3.0 and rising. It gets harder to raise after you start acumulating hours but you just have to keep grinding it out. It's stressfull b/c you have to breathing room but it makes you work harder. Just keep plugging along, you'll be fine.
 
are you serious? it's way too early in the game to count yourself out, yea a 4.0 every semester isn't the easiest thing to do but it's not impossible...if you need a more realistic approach then aim for a 3.5-3.6 each of the semesters and raise your gpa to like a 3.2ish plus you have plenty of time to get the rest of your stats improved EC, LORs, DAT studying..good luck
 
I'm a student at UCSD right now, freshman, and it's final (for the end of winter quarter).

I got a 2.67 last quarter and this quarter looks to be about the same. I took 12 units last quarter and 16 units this quarter.

I really, really, really, want UCLA or any school in southern California. But most importantly, I really wanna go to a dental school.

But because of my GPA, I think I'm not qualified enough. Sure, I can get 4.0 next year and the year after and raise that sucker GPA up to like a 3.7 which is amazing, but that isn't realistic.

What should I do? Ugh. Hope is lost.

Step up your game. All hope isn't lost but you definitely need to work. You don't need a 4.0 because positive trends look good, but you do need to bring your average up to ideally a 3.4 and if competition stays the same, you should get into a dental school somewhere. Beware though, the average dental school enrollee GPA has gone up from a 3.2 to nearly a 3.6 in the past 4-5 years. People seem to be discovering that it is a great field without all the insurance problems medicine is facing.

Good luck.
 
one option is you could switch to an easier major, while still taking the pre-reqs. For instance, if you liek biology maybe pick a different aspect to study, instead of molecular you could do general... etc. Dunno what majors are at your school.


Also, your good man. Just dont go through your undergrad worrying about grades. I found when i was less stressed i did MUCH MUCH better. Also my last 4 semesters were the best gpa's i ever got.
 
Started off my career at UCSB with a first quarter gpa of a 2.7 followed by a 2.13 gpa the next. Had a 3.0 overall with two repeated courses already by the start of my Junior year, ended my undergrad with a 3.41 overall and a 3.53 sci. I applied after I graduated and got 6 interviews including that UCLA one that you seek. Word of advice, just get your act together and go for it and if you want it bad enough then you will get it. Cheers and best of luck!
 
Oh, that sounds a lot better. Since I took only 12 units first quarter, I'm assuming that it doesn't weight itself as much as say, 16 units from now on with a 3.17. I really want UCLA so I'm trying my best. But damn, this ****'s hard. As for joining the predent club, shadowing, assistance, when would that be prime? Now? Or later?
 
Join now and consistently attend... You'll pick up valuable tips... Also there is no shame in moving to an easier major... I wish I had when I was at UC Irvine... seriously consider it... My sister told me to do it and I didn't listen.... I really wish I had... If you really don't want to, then make sure you stay low with the number of units and make sure you get A's from here on out... Take is slow... You're GPA will move up a lot fast with 12 units with a 4.0 than 16-18 units with a 3.5 (or less). UCs are tuff schools so you have to strategize accordingly... Goodluck...
 
Oh, that sounds a lot better. Since I took only 12 units first quarter, I'm assuming that it doesn't weight itself as much as say, 16 units from now on with a 3.17. I really want UCLA so I'm trying my best. But damn, this ****'s hard. As for joining the predent club, shadowing, assistance, when would that be prime? Now? Or later?

Now is probably better than later, for shadowing and predent club. They can help you figure out that this is really what you want to do. Also, the more prepared you are now, the more prepared you will be for the application process.

Do your best in your classes as soon as possible. It's easier to bring up your GPA with fewer hours/units under your belt and with undergrad courses (when they are typically less difficult). Unless of course, you perform well under pressure and like the more difficult classes, which is entirely possible. I did much better in my first two years than my last two. I got senioritis early, got a job, got a puppy... and the lowest GPA of my life, but it made no dent in my overall GPA because I had built a nice little cushion for myself. So start building your cushion now! 🙂
 
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Well, I've been hearing a lot about changing my major and it's not my Human Biology GPA that's killing me. It's calculus! I took a quarter of math last quarter and this quarter and it's looking to be a C also. I'm just not good with math. But luckly, next quarter (spring), there will be NO MATH!
 
i took around 12 units almost every quarter.......

getting 4.0 on a 12 unit quarter is quite realistic?

as for the ECs pile it on slowly. next quarter join a club, after that do some shadowing, then volunteering, work, research.........

add a little ECs each quarter so it doesnt feel overwhelming?

this is what i did:

freshmen - club, shadowing, volunteering
sophmore - club, shadowing, volunteering, work, peer mentor
junior - club, shadowing, volunteering, work, peer mentor, research

you need to figure out how to study. everyone studies differently. make sure you figure out your own personal style. work out the kinks each quarter and make it more efficent.

for some people being predent = no life. you have to either study or do ECs
 
Well, I've been hearing a lot about changing my major and it's not my Human Biology GPA that's killing me. It's calculus! I took a quarter of math last quarter and this quarter and it's looking to be a C also. I'm just not good with math. But luckly, next quarter (spring), there will be NO MATH!

Then push forwards! Haha, that math part killed me too. Get past the math and kick butt in the rest of your classes! You can do it!!! 😀
 
Which college do you go to?
I heard Muir has easy GE classes.
 
one option is you could switch to an easier major, while still taking the pre-reqs. For instance, if you liek biology maybe pick a different aspect to study, instead of molecular you could do general... etc. Dunno what majors are at your school.

To respond to the above he is just taking the intro classes as a freshman so he doesn't even know what the difference between Mo bio and general bio is.... so might as well stay the same major right now....

I know exactly how you feel i attended UCSD all 4 years and it pretty much sucks..... just remember that classes like the 6 series of Chem and 20 series of math are weeder classes......they are going to be hard... but seriously as you learn how to study you will do better....tips.......go to class..... do work ahead of time and go to section and get your questions answered before you are tested on it.

As for UCLA, hate to break it to you but it isn't easy to get into.... maybe because there is like a 200,000 dollar difference between UCLA and USC... basically CA schools are hard to get into, and UCSF and UCLA probably the hardest. But again if you are serious about being a dentist it really shouldn't matter if you have to leave your comfort bubble and go to school out of state.

As for all hope being lost....... are you kidding me..... stop being so melodramatic.... You have plenty of time to raise your GPA.... Use CAPE so you can find good professors, and do the above mentioned tips.....OASIS should help too.... PM if you have further questions
 
Which college do you go to?
I heard Muir has easy GE classes.

Muir and Warren have the easiest but if he isn't in one of those two then oh well..... I wouldn't recommend transferring .... first off it is a pain in the a$$ and secondly any work (ie college GEs) that he has already done in his first 2 quarters at UCSD will be wasted. So basically you have to tough it out with the college you are in.... hope it isn't ERC....... MMW would be terrible
 
It's funny you say that because........it IS ERC!
 
I'm a student at UCSD right now, freshman, and it's final (for the end of winter quarter).

I got a 2.67 last quarter and this quarter looks to be about the same. I took 12 units last quarter and 16 units this quarter.

I really, really, really, want UCLA or any school in southern California. But most importantly, I really wanna go to a dental school.

But because of my GPA, I think I'm not qualified enough. Sure, I can get 4.0 next year and the year after and raise that sucker GPA up to like a 3.7 which is amazing, but that isn't realistic.

What should I do? Ugh. Hope is lost.

Hi!
I am in same situation but i raise my overall GPA to 3.55 now.
I do that by 1/I take only 3 classes for each quarter. 2/ Only 2 science classes and 1 easy class 3/ The most important thing is that i try not to procastinate.
The downside is that even though my gpa is ok now BUT i did not graduate on time. It has been 5 and half years and i am really scare if dental school look down on people with more than 5 years undergrad degree
 
I'm a student at UCSD right now, freshman, and it's final (for the end of winter quarter).

I got a 2.67 last quarter and this quarter looks to be about the same. I took 12 units last quarter and 16 units this quarter.

I really, really, really, want UCLA or any school in southern California. But most importantly, I really wanna go to a dental school.

But because of my GPA, I think I'm not qualified enough. Sure, I can get 4.0 next year and the year after and raise that sucker GPA up to like a 3.7 which is amazing, but that isn't realistic.

What should I do? Ugh. Hope is lost.

you made me laugh a little. You're a freaking FRESHMAN!!! you know that the 28 units you have under your belt will be less than 10% of your total units by the time you graduate. B- average is not so bad for your first 2 quarters. Really.

What this should be is motivation for you to do well! D-schools can live with a bad freshman year. Aim for a 3.5 average, which will be like a 3.6 from now on. That's an A-/B+ average. Totally doable if you got into UCSD.

And like I always say, the GPA is not the only thing on your transcript! Nor, do I think is it the most important. This is after getting a very good gpa, and watching school after school pass me over. seriously. get your EC's done, and APPLY EARLY. that's all. Good luck!
 
Stay up my friend. We're all in it for the long run
 
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You guys encouraged me a lot but it amazes me that you guys think it's very easy to pull off a 3.6 GPA from now on. But when someone replied that my 28 units, is less than 10%, when exactly do most average people apply to d-school? Isn't it the summer after 3rd year? Or senior year? I mean, I'm done with two quarter, and I have 7 more to go so I don't see the <10% thing
 
You guys encouraged me a lot but it amazes me that you guys think it's very easy to pull off a 3.6 GPA from now on. But when someone replied that my 28 units, is less than 10%, when exactly do most average people apply to d-school? Isn't it the summer after 3rd year? Or senior year? I mean, I'm done with two quarter, and I have 7 more to go so I don't see the <10% thing

its not easy? it requires a lot of hardwork.

your whole "i dont see the <10%" argument fails? you need to read Amalgam4U reply on the 10% thing more carefully. it made perfect sense when i read it.

lol @ the troll comment.

as for when most people apply you can read my post on this thread

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=506271

if your GPA isnt where you want it to be then it will delay when you apply?
 
Ah, so May 15th of my junior year. Which means, that quarter's grades won't even count. So that's only 7 quarters left!!!
 
Ah, so May 15th of my junior year. Which means, that quarter's grades won't even count. So that's only 7 quarters left!!!

you dont HAVE to apply then. you can take a year off.
 
You guys encouraged me a lot but it amazes me that you guys think it's very easy to pull off a 3.6 GPA from now on. But when someone replied that my 28 units, is less than 10%, when exactly do most average people apply to d-school? Isn't it the summer after 3rd year? Or senior year? I mean, I'm done with two quarter, and I have 7 more to go so I don't see the <10% thing

Sorry I didn't mean to make it sound like it was easy. Getting grades does take a lot of work, and in college it can be killer. I was merely commenting that you're obviously not an incapable individual, since you're going to UCSD, which is a very selective school. And you're obviously smart (you're on SDN, which is a good sign!). We believe in you!

But really, do you think dental school will be any easier than college? At UCLA, the school you want to go to, their finals week isn't just 3 finals long. It's more like 10 finals long. I heard 15 from one guy. It won't be easy, but everyone who's interested in Dentistry has to do it! So at least take comfort in that your struggles are shared by the rest of this community.

Re: The 28 units being less than 10% of your units when you graduate was based on my unit count at graduation, which may have been skewed by a minor and some research units. Sorry if I misrepresented.

28 units is still a very small portion of the 180 minimum units required to graduate at most schools, which was my main point. Since your unit count is still very small, it's relatively easier for you to change your gpa than say someone with 150 units and a 2.7. You can still overcome your perceived deficit if you don't worry overly about the number, and really do your best! But again, from my experience, getting into dental school is not about the numbers at all, and rather the way you achieved those numbers and what you learned from it.

The way I would look at it is this: Sure, your first couple quarters in college were a bit rocky. Easily explainable by adjustments etc. But what's important is that this represents is an opportunity to show that you can overcome obstacles and show improvement in your academic endeavors. You're not stagnant. You adjust. YOU DON'T GIVE UP HOPE.

Don't fret the little stuff, as it seems like you have consistently done on this forum. Your application is still a baby! Just do what you can to take care of it, and it will grow up healthy and strong if you really want to be a dentist. You're taking the right steps by looking for advice on these boards, but don't worry too much! Enjoy college for crying out loud!

Even if you can't raise it to as high as you would like, I think there are some 3.0's who get in. And there's always the opportunity for a postbac.

Hah, I didn't expect to have to explain myself so thoroughly...but thanks for the backup joey! lol.

And yes. May of your junior year.

Good Luck.

Sorry. Long post crits you for 9999!
 
Thegame2388,
Don't worry about your first semester. If you do well from here on schools will cut you some slack. They understand that not everybody has a smooth transition to college. The whole point is to be a strong candidate not to be a perfectionist with sparkling 4.0 GPA, although it would be nice to have that. You are still early in the game just make sure you do well and it'll be alright. Don't let some of the SDN members with amazing stats scare you. Raising you GPA however will require some sacrifices, you may have to hit the books when your friends are hanging out.
 
It's funny you say that because........it IS ERC!

Oh man i feel for you........ I would have dropped out if i had to take that crap..... I had to take DOC, but it was only a year not 2 like MMW...... Anyway raising your gpa isn't going to be easy but it is doable .... JOIN UCSD's pre dental club.... it is seriously awesome and will allow you to meet the deans of many schools, and could help you get in, but at very least it will help you make sure that Dentistry is right for you. You will also get a ton of experience towards your application..... GOOD LUCK and don't give up hope you have a pleanty of time to right the ship
 
Thanks to everyone. Something else came in my mind just now: I took ancommunity college, UC transferrable fine art class (Intro to Theater) during the summer of 2006. The class shows up on my degree audit, and academic history as 4.5 units and as an "A" which is what I got. But what I'm wondering is, is this class factored into my UCSD GPA or even AASDAS GPA? Thanks,
 
Thanks to everyone. Something else came in my mind just now: I took ancommunity college, UC transferrable fine art class (Intro to Theater) during the summer of 2006. The class shows up on my degree audit, and academic history as 4.5 units and as an "A" which is what I got. But what I'm wondering is, is this class factored into my UCSD GPA or even AASDAS GPA? Thanks,

there are a few threads about this already.............

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=504390
 
Sweet! That just bumped my GPA from a 2.67 to a 3.01!
 
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See things are already looking up!

Man... I wish my little brother was as motivated as you are. He just sits around, plays video games, and watches movies all day long, and then does mediocre in his community college courses... but you know, not everyone is blessed enough to know what they want to do with their lives this early! :crossing my fingers that he figures it out soon:
 
I've been wanting to become a dentist since the 7th grade. This career is a must for me. I hope this doesn't take too much of your time, but besides GPA and DAT

can anyone list the importance/when to start of the following:

1) Assisting
2) Join Pre-dent club
3) Shadowing
4) Research
5) Volunteering
 
I've been wanting to become a dentist since the 7th grade. This career is a must for me. I hope this doesn't take too much of your time, but besides GPA and DAT

can anyone list the importance/when to start of the following:

1) Assisting
2) Join Pre-dent club
3) Shadowing
4) Research
5) Volunteering

i would say

1) shadowing/assisting
2) volunteering/pre-dent club
3) research

1 being the most important, but i would recommend doing everything.
 
Thanks, I'll try to do 100 hours of each 🙂
 
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