When did Temple get its SMP?

[DrMidlife]

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From AAMC's list, this looks brand new.

 

[ANF1986]

Im a Temple undergrad...The program is brand new and was started in 2008...I'll be applying to the BCMS option this year...

 

[DrMidlife]

Im a Temple undergrad...The program is brand new and was started in 2008...I'll be applying to the BCMS option this year...

Please post info as you find it, such as:
1. class size
2. level of integration with med school and med students
.....compare with other SMPs such as Cincinnati, where SMP students are actually in class with med students
3. are they granting a degree or certificate?

Thanks!

 

[hung]

Students who have maintained a 3.5 GPA and have achieved MCAT scores of at least 30, no section less than 8, will be granted special admission status to the School of Medicine.

this part is key.

 

[JaggerPlate]

Please post info as you find it, such as:
1. class size
2. level of integration with med school and med students
.....compare with other SMPs such as Cincinnati, where SMP students are actually in class with med students
3. are they granting a degree or certificate?

Thanks!

It doesn't seem like you achieve a degree.

 

[igcgnerd]

You do if you stay an extra year in case you don't get in. I was disappointed to see this on here since I want to apply there and up till now it was fairly secret.

 

[PlAnEjaNe]

The curriculum looks pretty intense...you will have to work your butt off to get that 3.5 GPA!

Students will enroll in the graduate courses in the School of Medicine.



Curriculum:

Semester 1 (Fall):

Fundamentals of Biochemistry

Molecular Basis of Microbiology and Immunology

Principles of Physiology

Scientific Integrity and Bioethics

Semester 2 (Spring)

Medical Pharmacology

Medical Anatomy

Special Topics in Advanced Pharmacology

In addition, a non-credit seminar series will span the fall and spring semesters.



It looks like you take pharm and anatomy either with the med students or at least cover the same amount of material and topics as the med students (probably the same type of exams as well). Seems like an excellent opportunity though. Good luck to those that are applying!

 

[riceman04]

Our advisor from here at Penn will be the director of the program

 

[plausible]

I applied for this cycle and didn't get in. Throughout the entire process, I would say they were less organized than Drexel. I hope they will make things better for applicants next year.

Also, it was one of the few schools that needed SAT scores. Boy was that a giant pain.

Good luck to anyone applying for this program next year.

 

[ANF1986]

I spoke to Grace, but specifically about the Basic Core in Medical Sciences program, not the SMP. She said the maximum class size would be 20 students. It is a certificate program, not degree granting. While it may be hard to maintain the 3.5 in the SMP, if you maintain a 3.5 in the BCMS, you can still gain special admission status to TUSM.

 

[Live4Life]

I applied for this cycle and didn't get in. Throughout the entire process, I would say they were less organized than Drexel. I hope they will make things better for applicants next year.

Also, it was one of the few schools that needed SAT scores. Boy was that a giant pain.

Good luck to anyone applying for this program next year.

Would you mind sharing your stats so we can gain a better idea of what is competitive vs. non-competitive strictly from a numbers perspective?

 

[plausible]

Would you mind sharing your stats so we can gain a better idea of what is competitive vs. non-competitive strictly from a numbers perspective?

Please keep in mind that this was what I experienced and it was probably different for other applicants. Hopefully, others can post their experiences as well 😳

After I found out that I was not accepted, I called to find out why. They wanted more competitive numbers. The person I spoke to told me that some of the people who interviewed for the med school but did not get in were given the opportunity to be in the ACMS track. I don't know how many students who didn't get into Temple Med are doing this program, but I imagine there is quite a few. The person I spoke with over the phone said that the average acceptance has been about a 3.5 and an average MCAT of 31. When I heard this, I wish I didn't even send in my application. For a program that is for people who are wanting to enhance their overall application to medical schools (temple's specifically), they don't give people who have poor academic records a chance. Instead, I believe they give people who have a decent chance of getting into medical school a final bump (especially if they want to goto temple med).

As for my stats. I have a UG GPA of 2.8, an informal post bac of 3.8+ from 2 years of classes (with a full year of informal 4.0 post-bac at temple's undergrad campus). My MCAT was a 10,10,10P. 2 years of emergency medicine research. The EM research allowed me to shadow a great number of doctors and gave me lots of pt experience. Good LOR from a professor at temple, one from my research, and one from another professor. I had the pre-med advisor at temple help me with my essays and application before I submitted.

In the end, I didn't get in. I did however, luckily got into the other SMP style post-bac programs around Philly and decided on PCOM.

Temple's ACMS is brand new, but I think it's one of the most competitive programs to get into because of their focus on numbers. Also, I think the "Opportunity for conditional acceptance into Temple University School of Medicine" after you are done with the program, alone, makes this program competitive to get into. That type of guarantee, alone, is what made this my top choice in post-bacs... but in the end, this program isn't for those who have a GPA that is far from competitive.

I hope this helps, and good luck

 

[Lokhtar]

Is it actually a guarantee? E.g, if you meet those requirements, you are sure to get in?

Also, what is the class size for the advanced core?

 

[ANF1986]

I spoke to Grace again today. Specifically regarding the SAT. She said that if you had not taken it because you transferred into your institution from community college, to just indicate why you hadn't taken it on your application.

I really dont see the point of an SAT score for a post-bac or SMP. The SAT is supposed to be an indicator of how well you will do in college. If you have at least a 3.3 cGPA in college, you are obviously able to do the work.

 

[spshl k]

Please keep in mind that this was what I experienced and it was probably different for other applicants. Hopefully, others can post their experiences as well 😳

After I found out that I was not accepted, I called to find out why. They wanted more competitive numbers. The person I spoke to told me that some of the people who interviewed for the med school but did not get in were given the opportunity to be in the ACMS track. I don't know how many students who didn't get into Temple Med are doing this program, but I imagine there is quite a few. The person I spoke with over the phone said that the average acceptance has been about a 3.5 and an average MCAT of 31. When I heard this, I wish I didn't even send in my application. For a program that is for people who are wanting to enhance their overall application to medical schools (temple's specifically), they don't give people who have poor academic records a chance. Instead, I believe they give people who have a decent chance of getting into medical school a final bump (especially if they want to goto temple med).

As for my stats. I have a UG GPA of 2.8, an informal post bac of 3.8+ from 2 years of classes (with a full year of informal 4.0 post-bac at temple's undergrad campus). My MCAT was a 10,10,10P. 2 years of emergency medicine research. The EM research allowed me to shadow a great number of doctors and gave me lots of pt experience. Good LOR from a professor at temple, one from my research, and one from another professor. I had the pre-med advisor at temple help me with my essays and application before I submitted.

In the end, I didn't get in. I did however, luckily got into the other SMP style post-bac programs around Philly and decided on PCOM.

Temple's ACMS is brand new, but I think it's one of the most competitive programs to get into because of their focus on numbers. Also, I think the "Opportunity for conditional acceptance into Temple University School of Medicine" after you are done with the program, alone, makes this program competitive to get into. That type of guarantee, alone, is what made this my top choice in post-bacs... but in the end, this program isn't for those who have a GPA that is far from competitive.

I hope this helps, and good luck

Since you have done the informal post-bacc route I want to get your take on this.

I have two options in regards to Masters program:

1. Do a SMP at Barry - 18th month cost= $35,000. This program is geared especially for students trying to get in to dental school and has a good track record.

2. Do a non thesis masters at my own university(alma matter - GA) 18 month cost= $7700.

I am an international student from Canada. So I am not eligible for any financial aid. I talked to my parents about it and they would do something. But I dont want to put that kinda pressure on my parents. I am so confused. =(

 

[braluk]

Want me to add this to the list? DrMidlife, PM me if u would like for me to do so. Thanks

 

[DrMidlife]

Want me to add this to the list? DrMidlife, PM me if u would like for me to do so. Thanks

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