When does a med student learn to do abortions?

[StreetGenius]

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Where does one learn to do abortions? Does one learn in medical school? How are they perfomed?

 

[Brainsucker]

One would learn that in an ob-gyn residency.

 

[njbmd]

Where does one learn to do abortions? Does one learn in medical school? How are they perfomed?

Hi there,
A medical student does not learn to perform abortions. D & C or D & E are generally taught during OB-Gyn residency along with other techniques. You may learn or observe these procedures but you will not be "taught" them per se as a medical student.

njbmd 🙂

 

[omgwtfbbq?]

That would be for an ob/residency, i don't think anyone here knows or is planning on sharing a detailed "how to" here on SDN.... and its not something to deal with in med school. This is an odd post. are you concerned about it coming up in med school and its against your beliefs? i don't see that as your point, but.... its not going to be an issue.

 

[StreetGenius]

Hi there,
A medical student does not learn to perform abortions. D & C or D & E are generally taught during OB-Gyn residency along with other techniques. You may learn or observe these procedures but you will not be "taught" them per se as a medical student.

njbmd 🙂

So only if one went into the field on OB/Gyn can they be qualified to perform abortions. I had the impression that they taught this in medical school. I also thought that many more doctors other than just ob/gyn docs were able to perform them once they were practicing . I guess I was wrong. Thanks for the info.

 

[i61164]

I don't know if anyone other than OB/GYN's do it, but there are medical abortions too. You don't have to be a surgeon to give someone medicine. Maybe other docs wouldn't do this for legal/insurance reasons, but FP's deliver babies too, so I don't see why they couldn't do medical abortions (as long as it's indicated).

 

[redstar18]

I don't believe any school curriculum will teach this to medical students. However, students at my school who are interested in shadowing abortion providers can do so through a shadowing program set up by our Medical Students For Choice chapter. You may want to check out what your school groups have to offer.

Also, you are correct in that physicians other than ob/gyns can perform abortions. I don't know the details of the training required, but I have heard of family med and pediatricians trained in this. Again, you should check out MSFC or a similar group to find out more.

So only if one went into the field on OB/Gyn can they be qualified to perform abortions. I had the impression that they taught this in medical school. I also thought that many more doctors other than just ob/gyn docs were able to perform them once they were practicing .

 

[Blade28]

I had the option of watching some during my OB/GYN rotation. I was interested, so I observed a few.

 

[8744]

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I think only a few medical schools would even try to make soembody do something so contrary to their moral beliefs. I may be wrong but I also believe that an OB-Gyn resident may refuse to perform elective abortions in most, if not all, states with no legal jeapordy. There are many pro-life OB-Gyns.

But a D & C is a legitimate medical procedure used for incomplete abortions among other things so don't instantly assume that it is for an elective abortion.

 

[StreetGenius]

I don't believe any school curriculum will teach this to medical students. However, students at my school who are interested in shadowing abortion providers can do so through a shadowing program set up by our Medical Students For Choice chapter. You may want to check out what your school groups have to offer.

Also, you are correct in that physicians other than ob/gyns can perform abortions. I don't know the details of the training required, but I have heard of family med and pediatricians trained in this. Again, you should check out MSFC or a similar group to find out more.

Thanks. This is good info.

 

[Ypo.]

Where does one learn to do abortions? Does one learn in medical school? How are they perfomed?

Good god what an ominous question. Whats the rush?

 

[geekOCD]

I don't think it's such a crazy question, after all, a large reason there are groups at med schools that have shadowing programs is b/c some med students a few years ago said "hey, wait a sec, who does abortions? and where/when do they get trained??" b/c it was a totally ignored/not spoken about topic not so long ago. That said, don't know what the OP's intentions are =) But the question itself isn't necessarily so suspicious.

 

[StreetGenius]

I don't think it's such a crazy question, after all, a large reason there are groups at med schools that have shadowing programs is b/c some med students a few years ago said "hey, wait a sec, who does abortions? and where/when do they get trained??" b/c it was a totally ignored/not spoken about topic not so long ago. That said, don't know what the OP's intentions are =) But the question itself isn't necessarily so suspicious.

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Yeah, I was just curious. I have been reading about the south dakota stuff and thought wait a minute when does one learn how to perform an abortion. That's all, no biggy.

 

[Rafa]

I don't think it's such a crazy question, after all, a large reason there are groups at med schools that have shadowing programs is b/c some med students a few years ago said "hey, wait a sec, who does abortions? and where/when do they get trained??" b/c it was a totally ignored/not spoken about topic not so long ago. That said, don't know what the OP's intentions are =) But the question itself isn't necessarily so suspicious.

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We shouldn't make folks here feel even more uncomfy about asking questions that society already considers "taboo" - especially if said folks will be expected to take care of said population, by virtue of chosen profession.

 

[deleted68747]

so, when do we get our guns?

 

[synapse lapse]

so, when do we get our guns?

Yeah and I can't wait to do my first abortion

 

[MadameLULU]

One would learn that in an ob-gyn residency.

Actually, any physician can train to provide abortions. One doesn't have to be an ob/gyn to do them.

 

[Ypo.]

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We shouldn't make folks here feel even more uncomfy about asking questions that society already considers "taboo" - especially if said folks will be expected to take care of said population, by virtue of chosen profession.

I wasn't trying to make anyone feel uncomfortable. I was just trying to make a joke-since the way it could have been read was that he couldn't wait to get his hands on some fetuses. Sorry if you didn't get it!

 

[PhillyGuy]

I observed/helped out with tons of D&E's during my ob/gyn rotation.

 

[OSUdoc08]

Where does one learn to do abortions? Does one learn in medical school? How are they perfomed?

OB/GYN rotation

 

[kimdd]

Shadowing a doctor performing abortions? Must have been a ultra pumped up,good fuzzy feeling rotation that month. Wasn't it a tad draining?

I don't believe any school curriculum will teach this to medical students. However, students at my school who are interested in shadowing abortion providers can do so through a shadowing program set up by our Medical Students For Choice chapter. You may want to check out what your school groups have to offer.

Also, you are correct in that physicians other than ob/gyns can perform abortions. I don't know the details of the training required, but I have heard of family med and pediatricians trained in this. Again, you should check out MSFC or a similar group to find out more.

 

[MN81]

Where does one learn to do abortions? Does one learn in medical school? How are they perfomed?

Performing an abortion is a pre-req for admission...






...sarcasm

 

[jane70]

Medical Students for Choice website..

http://www.ms4c.org

the group was created by medical students for exactly the reason listed here...we're mostly not educated on women's reproductive healthcare, specifically abortion. and definitely doctors other than ob/gyn can do abortions...i did a MSFC internship shadowing a family practice doc who did womens health which included abortion. this is certainly an area where there always be need (even if it becomes illegal again, women will still get abortions). so if you don't have an ob/gyn residency, you'll still be wanted.

Oh, and there's work towards making RU486/medical abortion more available from primary care doctors. As well as emergency contraception, but that's of course another thing.

 

[blkkd]

Performing an abortion is a pre-req for admission...






...sarcasm

HAHAHA...that was funny man i have my spring allergies and you have me laughing and coughing at the same time

 

[lobster M.D.]

when you get pregnant/impregnate someone by mistake

 

[fun8stuff]

Where does one learn to do abortions? Does one learn in medical school? How are they perfomed?

it is part of orientation week. everyone gets their white coat and they get to perform an abortion!

i know at my school you can see and learn how to do it during third year OB, however, it isn't forced upon you. you can morally object... what do you think? all us med students are savages?

 

[Rafa]

I wasn't trying to make anyone feel uncomfortable. I was just trying to make a joke-since the way it could have been read was that he couldn't wait to get his hands on some fetuses. Sorry if you didn't get it!

That's all right - no one else thought it was funny either!

 

[mysophobe]

Did quite a few rotating in OB. No biggie.

 

[Ypo.]

That's all right - no one else thought it was funny either!

But based on some of the other comments, I wasn't the only one who read humor into OPs post. Lighten up a little! 😀

 

[waterski232002]

when you get pregnant/impregnate someone by mistake

That's what a hanger is for... right?

 

[lobster M.D.]

That's what a hanger is for... right?

yea but you have to learn first which direction to scramble, clockwise or counterclockwise

 

[Jedix123]

Soon we'll have dead baby jokes.

 

[redstar18]

It was only a one day shadowing thing arranged by our MSFC chapter, mostly for interested 1st and 2nd yrs. I didn't do this, but some of my classmates did.

Shadowing a doctor performing abortions? Must have been a ultra pumped up,good fuzzy feeling rotation that month. Wasn't it a tad draining?

 

[fun8stuff]

yea but you have to learn first which direction to scramble, clockwise or counterclockwise

Doesn't this depend on what hemisphere you are in?

 

[waterski232002]

There's always the stairs...

 

[lobster M.D.]

Doesn't this depend on what hemisphere you are in?

thank you for that, i usually dont laugh out loud on these forums

 

[trustwomen]

Shadowing a doctor performing abortions? Must have been a ultra pumped up,good fuzzy feeling rotation that month. Wasn't it a tad draining?

It's actually really fulfilling, the patients are so grateful you are there! I worked in the recovery room of an abortion clinic and while there were some sad moments, most people don't realize how "ordinary" the atmosphere can be... cracking jokes, talking about everything and nothing with the patients, etc. The vast majority are so relieved when it is done (of course, the better the service, the better the mood of the patient - and I include counseling and anesthesia in "service" here...)

I know many doctors who feel very good about doing abortions. And they get a lot of thank-you cards and word-of-mouth referrals.

 

[dynx]

Doesn't this depend on what hemisphere you are in?

this is some funny ****

 

[8744]

...most people don't realize how "ordinary" the atmosphere can be... cracking jokes, talking about everything and nothing with the patients, etc...

The banality of evil.

 

[Flea girl]

The banality of evil.

What was the point of this? So it looks like we are going to go there huh?

 

[8744]

What was the point of this? So it looks like we are going to go there huh?

What do you think my point was? Even evil can have a routine quality to it. Do you know who coined the phrase "The Banality of Evil?"

 

[8744]

It's actually really fulfilling, the patients are so grateful you are there!

Whee! What fun!

 

[lobster M.D.]

panda, please keep your self righteous religious mumbo jumbo to yourself, some people actually look for legitimate information concerning medical school and its various practices and difficulties, you dont see me coming to these forums to preach the ridiculousness and inherent evil that i see in your beliefs cause i know that my views are mine and mine alone, and this is no place to stand on a pedestal and preach, oh man, im done......... i need to stop before i get too angry, you can now proceed to tell me how great jesus is........... 🙄

 

[stoic]

Where does one learn to do abortions?

when they get their girlfriends pregnant.

*edit*
aw damn, i've really got to start reading the threads before i reply.

 

[Ypo.]

Soon we'll have dead baby jokes.

I want my baby back baby back baby back...ribs.

 

[8744]

panda, please keep your self righteous religious mumbo jumbo to yourself, some people actually look for legitimate information concerning medical school and its various practices and difficulties, you dont see me coming to these forums to preach the ridiculousness and inherent evil that i see in your beliefs cause i know that my views are mine and mine alone, and this is no place to stand on a pedestal and preach, oh man, im done......... i need to stop before i get too angry, you can now proceed to tell me how great jesus is........... 🙄

So you are so set in your ways that you won't listen to any arguements to the contrary? Sounds like a religion to me.

Whatever the merits of abortion, it is a sad day indeed when you can call a point of view which seeks to protect the unborn ridiculous and inherently evil.

Why so sensitive on the subject? I just pointed out that even the worst brutality in the world, if practiced often enough and cloaked in legality, can seem like just another day at the office.

 

[Flea girl]

Why so sensitive on the subject? I just pointed out that even the worst brutality in the world, if practiced often enough and cloaked in legality, can seem like just another day at the office.

Not trying to start any kinda of war of the words here but you just came off a bit too self rightous. Thats all.

 

[8744]

Not trying to start any kinda of war of the words here but you just came off a bit too self rightous. Thats all.

The post to which I commented seemed entirely too flippant and would embarrase me even if I were pro-coice.

 

[lobster M.D.]

Why so sensitive on the subject? I just pointed out that even the worst brutality in the world, if practiced often enough and cloaked in legality, can seem like just another day at the office.

this could very well get ugly fast, so i feel we should just end the discussion here, besides i doubt you way up there on your pedestal could clearly hear or understand my viewpoint anyway, i find it strange that one could think that a procedure which very well could help your patient as well as be in your patient's best interest could be the "worst brutality in the world", that is a strange world you live in, it is certainly not the one the rest of us reside in, just so i can avoid future doctors that share your viewpoints, are there any other treatments which are "inherently evil", chemotherapy? plastic surgery? birth control? medications?, your opinions remind me of a very crazy tom cruise, fanatics, whether fanatic about violence or religion are equally dangerous to the world and to the progress of the human species, ...........................perhaps some betrand russell could clear your mind

 

[Ypo.]

Not trying to start any kinda of war of the words here but you just came off a bit too self rightous. Thats all.

He's aware of that. Its his style. Sort of a Bill O-Reilly type.