When to apply, etc.

[rundle]

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I am currently finishing my CA-1 year. When do I start the application process? Is there a ERAS-type process similar to the residency process or does each program have its own application? Also just as an aside, how important is research? Thanks.

 

[Calilove]

There is no ERAS application. You apply to each program set by their own deadlines. Research really doesnt seem to be a MUST for a position. Program directors have never mentioned that as a determining factor when I've spoken with them. Use your CA-2 year to really get a hold on the core subspecialty rotations in anesthesia. Alot of my colleagues started out CA-2 year wanting to do pain and put up a wall to most of the other fields, got on the rotation and didn't like it as much as they thought. If you are still interested, join a professional pain society (ISIS, APS, ASRA, etc.). This is a great place to meet other residents and learn more about this field.

 

[spinal]

To get a pain fellowship in a good program:

1-good USMLE scores i.e. the higher the better your chances
2-Good inservice exam scores i.e. the higher the better.
3-Research optional. If you have done research you are 10 steps ahead of other guys and you will get a fellowship for sure.
4-Publications on journals or presentations in meetings will max your chances.
5-Good LOR are important.They have to come from academic pain physicians.
6-Attend meetings,get to know people.
7-Become a member of pain societies.
8-Serve on resident component comittees
9-remember you are going head to head with other residents. Set yourself apart. The more qualified you are less worry.

 

[Calilove]

Except #1 on the above list, I can agree with the opinion above. I've spoken to quite a few PDs and none have focused on my USMLE scores. I don't know why, but this has never been one of the IMPORTANT things that they look for in applicants. I guess that most applicants have had above average performance on standardized examinations, so they are looking for other criteria, i.e. "the intangibles", that will set that particular applicant above the next.

 

[spinal]

When to apply?
Every program has a different aplication process. I advice you to call the programs that you are looking at and ask for the application forms and deadlines. Some programs will tell you to go to their website and download the application. Thats fine at least you showed interest and introduced yourself to the secretary. believe it or not that is important also.
Good Luck!

 

[spinal]

Except #1 on the above list, I can agree with the opinion above. I've spoken to quite a few PDs and none have focused on my USMLE scores. I don't know why, but this has never been one of the IMPORTANT things that they look for in applicants. I guess that most applicants have had above average performance on standardized examinations, so they are looking for other criteria, i.e. "the intangibles", that will set that particular applicant above the next.

They look at USMLE scores also. You will find out that every program will ask you to send the USLME scores. I am talking about top programs. There are programs out there that might not ask for USMLE- these programs are probably the left overs. I applied in 10 and they all wanted the USMLE scores. Who do you think they are going to hire someone that just passed the USMLE or the one that has 230 and above scores.
Do not kidd yourself. Maximise your chances. If you haven't taken Step 3 yet make sure you nail it. Also make sure that you have good nservice scores.
It is becoming more and more compettitive to get in. Ratio was 140 applicants for 4 spots in one program. Better be in the top 4 candidates.