Where to apply?

[uNiq1]

Hi guys I was wondering where to apply to medical school. I was struggling with the OMG its late my chances suck but I realize there's nothing I could do for a year that I think is worth not going to medical school for 1 year.

I live in NY and want to go to a place that has good teachers (Stony Brook university eh) and good facilities. I want to apply to a few normal schools, 2-3 safeties and a few rly good schools outside of NY (what if 1 in 100000 factor). I would like to apply to about 15-22 schools.

Thank you for all your help.

Anyway heres me on paper:
Overall GPA: 3.87
Science GPA 3.92
MCAT: Physical 12, Verbal 9, Biological 13
Total 34
Extracurricular
Member Stony Brook Volunteer Ambulance Corps. 2 years. (MANY hours)
- Patient contact
- Course of treatment
- Scene control etc etc.
Resident Assistant (1 semester so far)
- Usual RA stuff
Emergency Medical Technician Advanced Care Life Support
- Started the Class this month (sept)
- Will consist of 163 hours of clinical rotations
- 100 on an ambulance 63 in hospitals
- Reading EKG's , Performing Intubations, IV's, lots of Drug Types etc.
Regional Director Of Sales and Management (1.5 years)
- Quality Assurance and Improvement on a chain of eleven 99 Cent stores
- Conducting customer satisfaction surveys
- Supervise and assess managers and ordering of inventories

A couple of committees here and there.

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[Stratego]

I suggest you look at the School Selection spreadsheet stickied to the top of this forum, plug in your numbers, and see where the grid says you are competitive/reach/safety. It's up to you to make a list based on your geographic preferences, curriculum style, etc., paying attention to those that accept few out of state applicants. We'll be happy to critique your list after you get one together.

 

[uNiq1]

SO here is my list of schools. Ofcourse I prefer NY or closer, Better opportunities and teachers. Curriculum is the same. State of the art facilities (I love the integration of computers in medicine). etc

If I do apply out of state then it will be for a school that has something the instate ones do not provide and ofcourse if that specific thing is worth paying more or traveling out further.

Thank you for your help.

Chances School name City State
Long shot Washington U St. Louis MO
Hopeful Yale New Haven CT
Hopeful Northwestern Chicago IL
Hopeful U of Chicago Chicago IL
Hopeful Harvard Boston MA
Hopeful Johns Hopkins Baltimore MD
Hopeful U of Michigan Ann Arbor MI
Hopeful Mayo Rochester MN
Hopeful Duke Durham NC
Hopeful Cornell New York NY
Hopeful Columbia New York NY
Hopeful Mt. Sinai New York NY
Hopeful U of Pittsburgh Pittsburgh PA
Hopeful Baylor Houston TX
Go fot it Stanford Stanford CA
Go fot it UCSD La Jolla CA
Go fot it UCSF San Francisco CA
Go fot it U of Southern California Los Angeles CA
Go fot it UC Irvine Irvine CA
Go fot it UCLA Los Angeles CA
Go fot it U of Colorado Denver CO
Go fot it U of Florida Gainesville FL
Go fot it Emory Atlanta GA
Go fot it Tufts Boston MA
Go fot it Boston Boston MA
Go fot it Dartmouth Hanover NH
Go fot it NYU New York NY
Go fot it Einstein Bronx NY
Go fot it U of Rochester Rochester NY
Go fot it Case Western Cleveland OH
Go fot it Ohio State Columbus OH
Go fot it U of Cincinnati Cincinnati OH
Go fot it U of Pennsylvania Philadelphia PA
Go fot it Brown Providence RI
Go fot it Vanderbilt Nashville TN
Go fot it UT Southwestern Dallas TX
Go fot it U of Virginia Charlottesville VA
High Chance U of Alabama Birmingham AL
High Chance U of S. Alabama Mobile AL
High Chance U of Arkansas Little Rock AR
High Chance U of Arizona Tucson AZ
High Chance UC Davis Sacramento CA
High Chance Loma Linda Loma Linda CA
High Chance U of Connecticut Farmington CT
High Chance Georgetown Washington DC
High Chance GWU Washington DC
High Chance U of Miami Miami FL
High Chance Florida International Miami FL
High Chance U of S. Florida Tampa FL
High Chance Florida State Tallahassee FL
High Chance MC Georgia Augusta GA
High Chance Mercer Macon GA
High Chance Morehouse Atlanta GA
High Chance U of Hawaii Honolulu HI
High Chance U of Iowa Iowa City IA
High Chance Rosalind Franklin North Chicago IL
High Chance Loyola Maywood IL
High Chance Rush Chicago IL
High Chance U of Illinois 4 sites IL
High Chance S. Illinois Springfield IL
High Chance Indiana U Indianapolis IN
High Chance U of Kansas Kansas City KS
High Chance U of Kentucky Lexington KY
High Chance U of Louisville Louisville KY
High Chance LSU Shreveport Shreveport LA
High Chance Tulane New Orleans LA
High Chance LSU New Orleans New Orleans LA
High Chance U of Massachusetts Worcester MA
High Chance U of Maryland Baltimore MD
High Chance USUHS Bethesda MD
High Chance Wayne State Detroit MI
High Chance Michigan State East Lansing MI
High Chance U of Minnesota 2 sites MN
High Chance St. Louis U St. Louis MO
High Chance U of Missouri Columbia Columbia MO
High Chance U of Missouri KC Kansas City MO
High Chance U of Mississippi Jackson MS
High Chance U of N. Carolina Chapel Hill NC
High Chance Wake Forest Winston-Salem NC
High Chance East Carolina Greenville NC
High Chance U of N. Dakota Grand Forks ND
High Chance Creighton Omaha NE
High Chance U of Nebraska Omaha NE
High Chance UMDNJ-NJMS Newark NJ
High Chance UMDNJ-RWJMS Piscataway NJ
High Chance U of New Mexico Albuquerque NM
High Chance U of Nevada Reno NV
High Chance SUNY Downstate Brooklyn NY
High Chance Stony Brook Stony Brook NY
High Chance Albany Albany NY
High Chance SUNY Upstate Syracuse NY
High Chance U at Buffalo Buffalo NY
High Chance NYMC Valhalla NY
High Chance U of Toledo Toledo OH
High Chance Northeastern Ohio Rootstown OH
High Chance Wright State Dayton OH
High Chance U of Oklahoma Oklahoma City OK
High Chance OHSU Portland OR
High Chance Penn State Hershey PA
High Chance Jefferson Philadelphia PA
High Chance Temple Philadelphia PA
High Chance Drexel Philadelphia PA
High Chance MUSC Charleston SC
High Chance U of S. Carolina Columbia SC
High Chance U of S. Dakota Vermillion SD
High Chance E. Tennessee State Johnson City TN
High Chance U of Tennessee Memphis TN
High Chance UTMB Galveston TX
High Chance Texas A&M College Station TX
High Chance UT Houston Houston TX
High Chance Texas Tech Lubbock Lubbock TX
High Chance UT San Antonio San Antonio TX
High Chance U of Utah Salt Lake City UT
High Chance EVMS Norfolk VA
High Chance Virginia Commonwealth Richmond VA
High Chance U of Vermont Burlington VT
High Chance U of Washington Seattle WA
High Chance U of Wisconsin Madison WI
High Chance MC Wisconsin Milwaukee WI
High Chance W. Virginia Morgantown WV
High Chance Marshall Huntington WV

 

[calimed214]

Thanks for editing your list.

And don't rely completey on the spreadsheet. It's not 100% accurate in terms of listing which schools give large in-state preference. For example, University of Hawaii -- unless you have STRONG ties to the state, you're not even going to pass their initial screen for a secondary. Same with the TX schools (aside from Baylor). They can't accept more than 10% OOS. So while the spreadsheet is a good jumping off point, be sure to look into more specifics before forking over $ to apply.

 

[flip26]

WTF?

Unless you are a Louisiana resident, you have zero chances at their state schools...be careful relying on this spreadsheet.

 

[uNiq1]

Now that i've made the list and based on my can anyone tell me which of these are good or which I have missed?

 

[aggie08]

WTF?

Unless you are a Louisiana resident, you have zero chances at their state schools...be careful relying on this spreadsheet.

You should probably take the Texas schools off, unless you just REALLY want try and come here it's going to be a waste of money to apply TMDSAS. They accept 90% in-state at TX public schools.

 

[flip26]

SO here is my list of schools. Ofcourse I prefer NY or closer, Better opportunities and teachers. Curriculum is the same. State of the art facilities (I love the integration of computers in medicine). etc

If I do apply out of state then it will be for a school that has something the instate ones do not provide and ofcourse if that specific thing is worth paying more or traveling out further.

Thank you for your help.

Chances School name City State
Long shot Washington U St. Louis MO
Hopeful Yale New Haven CT
Hopeful Northwestern Chicago IL
Hopeful U of Chicago Chicago IL
Hopeful Harvard Boston MA
Hopeful Johns Hopkins Baltimore MD
Hopeful U of Michigan Ann Arbor MI
Hopeful Mayo Rochester MN
Hopeful Duke Durham NC
Hopeful Cornell New York NY
Hopeful Columbia New York NY
Hopeful Mt. Sinai New York NY
Hopeful U of Pittsburgh Pittsburgh PA
Hopeful Baylor Houston TX
Go fot it Stanford Stanford CA
Go fot it U of Southern California Los Angeles CA
Go fot it Emory Atlanta GA
Go fot it Tufts Boston MA
Go fot it Boston Boston MA
Go fot it Dartmouth Hanover NH
Go fot it NYU New York NY
Go fot it Einstein Bronx NY
Go fot it U of Rochester Rochester NY
Go fot it Case Western Cleveland OH
Go fot it Ohio State Columbus OH
Go fot it U of Cincinnati Cincinnati OH
Go fot it U of Pennsylvania Philadelphia PA
Go fot it Brown Providence RI
Go fot it Vanderbilt Nashville TN
Go fot it U of Virginia Charlottesville VA
High Chance Loma Linda Loma Linda CA
High Chance Georgetown Washington DC
High Chance GWU Washington DC
High Chance U of Miami Miami FL
High Chance Rosalind Franklin North Chicago IL
High Chance Loyola Maywood IL
High Chance Rush Chicago IL
High Chance Tulane New Orleans LA
High Chance USUHS Bethesda MD
High Chance Wayne State Detroit MI
High Chance St. Louis U St. Louis MO
High Chance Wake Forest Winston-Salem NC
High Chance Creighton Omaha NE
High Chance SUNY Downstate Brooklyn NY
High Chance Stony Brook Stony Brook NY
High Chance Albany Albany NY
High Chance SUNY Upstate Syracuse NY
High Chance U at Buffalo Buffalo NY
High Chance NYMC Valhalla NY
High Chance OHSU Portland OR
High Chance Penn State Hershey PA
High Chance Jefferson Philadelphia PA
High Chance Temple Philadelphia PA
High Chance Drexel Philadelphia PA
High Chance EVMS Norfolk VA
High Chance Virginia Commonwealth Richmond VA
High Chance U of Vermont Burlington VT
High Chance MC Wisconsin Milwaukee WI

I eliminated the ones you have no chance at. Not saying the ones I left near the top are much better, but there is some chance.

Apply to the underlined, add others you are really interested in.

I have to add the following: you have gone about this the wrong way. I spent months studying the MSAR, and looking up the schools I wanted to apply to. You should have figured this part of the process out a long time ago...asking other people to look at a list of 50+ schools is not the way to do it.

In addition, your app is going to be very late, and it will hurt your chances at virtually every school listed here.

 

[Stratego]

If you have no research, you can take out the schools in the top twenty. I would have underlined MCW too, but not Oregon which has regional preference. In addition to the already underlined, you can, IMO, reasonably add underlining to:

Go fot it Boston Boston
Go fot it U of Rochester Rochester NY
Go fot it Ohio State Columbus OH
Go fot it U of Cincinnati Cincinnati OH
High Chance Georgetown Washington DC
High Chance GWU Washington DC
High Chance U of Miami Miami FL
High Chance Rosalind Franklin North Chicago IL
High Chance Loyola Maywood IL
High Chance Rush Chicago IL
High Chance Tulane New Orleans LA

Once you have a basic list, Flip is correct that you need to sit down with an MSAR (available in the pre-med advising office, library reference section, or on-line through AMCAS) and research each school, their curriculum, values, cost, location, etc, and fine-tune the list so you aren't applying somewhere you would never go.

 

[uNiq1]

I have done research. Just to point that out.

Here is the basic post MSAR reading and website viewing list I made before the selector and before my MCAT studying etc.

University of Washington School of Medicine
Univeristy of southern california
University of california san francisco -
David Geffen school of med UCLA -
Stony Brook -
Suny Downstate -
Suny Upstate -
Albert Einstein Yeshevia -
SUNY buffalo -
Columbia
NYU -
Albany -
U at buffalo -
Rochester -
NYMC
Cornell -
Darmouth -
John Hopkins -
Mt. Sinai -
Harvard
Columbia -
Stanford (California) -
Yale (Conneticut) -
Duke (North Carolina) -
Brown (Rhode Island) -

I know that the 3 California schools (besides Stanford) look pretty much the same on paper and are competitive to get into. Which one of these is very selective towards its own residents? I need to find more reasonable schools to apply to (less competitive/safeties). I would like them to be close to NY and would rather not apply to a school just b/c its a safety unless i can't find any safeties nearby.

I also need to reduce the number of competitive schools at the moment to one's that I have more of a chance at. Which would you recommend?

 

[flip26]

I have done research. Just to point that out.

Here is the basic post MSAR reading and website viewing list I made before the selector and before my MCAT studying etc.

University of Washington School of Medicine

Umm, well, then your 'research' failed you on the very first school on your list...virtually impossible for OOS applicants...maybe spend a little less time watching "Grey's Anatomy" and a little more time doing real research...

Not sure I understand what you expect anyone to tell you. You are extremely late in the app cycle, and you have not done a good job researching potential schools.

Good luck, because at this point you need it.

 

[uNiq1]

Ah I see what you mean by "research" now. I thought you meant working a lab research not school research. Thx for the grey's anatomy insult though.
You seem like a very knowledgeable person so how about?
More safety schools?
Which of these competitive one's to get rid of?
And good call on the oos for washington. I'm using school selector to remove those schools.

 

[flip26]

Ah I see what you mean by "research" now. I thought you meant working a lab research not school research. Thx for the grey's anatomy insult though.
You seem like a very knowledgeable person so how about?
More safety schools?
Which of these competitive one's to get rid of?
And good call on the oos for washington. I'm using school selector to remove those schools.

I honestly think that all the California schools are a waste for you. The state schools have a great deal of instate bias, although UCSF reportedly doesn't, but it is uber competitive, and Stanford is a pipe dream for most applicants, too. But at least UCSF screens the secondary, so it will only cost you $31 to find out if they are interested in you...

I would focus all of my energy on the NYC area and upstate schools since that is where your interests lie. That is 14 schools by my count...then toss a couple of OOS reaches that really make your leg tingle, whatever those may be...

At this late date, I don't think you realize how hard it is going to be to crank out 20+ secondaries before some of the app deadlines. I did 14 secondaries during the month of July to early August and burned out, couldn't make myself do another one. And some of the secondaries are a real bitch, like Duke...