Which allopathic med schools require Biochemistry as a pre-req?

[thesultan]

So far my understanding is that the following schools REQUIRE biochem:

michigan state
univ of michigan
mayo
univ of minnesota
univ of mississippi
univ of missouri
univ of nebraska
umdnj
univ new mexico
case western
brown
univ of washington
keck
fsu
univ of florida
univ of hawaii

do you know of any others???

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[univscience]

i had no idea biochem was pre-req'd at any school.

 

[desi5286]

not at brown anymore

So far my understanding is that the following schools REQUIRE biochem:

michigan state
univ of michigan
mayo
univ of minnesota
univ of mississippi
univ of missouri
univ of nebraska
umdnj
univ new mexico
case western
brown
univ of washington
keck
fsu
univ of florida
univ of hawaii

do you know of any others???

 

[SeventhSon]

someone correct me if i'm wrong but I think UCLA requires it.

 

[75969]

You might like to know that U of Florida requires biochem lab as well (they want 4 credits...so if biochem is 3 credits at your university, you will need to take the lab or an upper level biochem for this requirement).

Also, correct me if I am wrong, but I believe U. of Miami also requires biochem.

 

[kia ora]

U Washington does not at present, but the dean of admissions recently said that it may be a requirement in the not-too-distant future

 

[NonTradMed]

I know a lot of schools *strongly* recommend it. Good thing I took it. 🙂

 

[QuikClot]

OHSU requires it. I know because I'm taking it pass/no pass after being accepted and nursing a terminal case of senioritis.

 

[spospo]

i read about how U Florida requires 4 sem hrs, but i also read on the website that if your school does not offer a lab, then it may possibly be waived. at least this was true last time i read their website. correct me if i am wrong about that though

 

[DrVanNostran]

Only noting required, NOT schools which recommend it:

USC
UCI
FSU-4hrs
Florida-4hrs
Hawai'i
Michigan
Mayo
Minnesota
Nebraska
New Mexico
OHSU
UT-SA

 

[spospo]

here is the FAQ page at UF. one is about biochem. UF FAQs

in case you couldn't find it, it says that if your school did not offer a lab, then you fulfilled the requirement. if it had a lab and you didn't take it, then you must take it before matriculation. i am not sure how current this is though. 😕

 

[LifetimeDoc]

here is the FAQ page at UF. one is about biochem. UF FAQs

in case you couldn't find it, it says that if your school did not offer a lab, then you fulfilled the requirement. if it had a lab and you didn't take it, then you must take it before matriculation. i am not sure how current this is though. 😕

So is the requirement for the University of Florida...

1. Take 4 credits of Biochemistry
2. Take Biochemistry I and Biochemistry Lab?

If it's #1, then wouldn't Biochemistry I and Biochemistry II (with no lab) cover the requirement?

 

[MissCutie]

So far my understanding is that the following schools REQUIRE biochem:

michigan state
univ of michigan
mayo
univ of minnesota
univ of mississippi
univ of missouri
univ of nebraska
umdnj
univ new mexico
case western
brown
univ of washington
keck
fsu
univ of florida
univ of hawaii

do you know of any others???

i could be mistaken, but im pretty sure michigan state does not require biochemistry. they require that you take 8 credit gen bio sequence, plus an upper level course, such as biochem or something else. does anyone know differently?

 

[ChymeChancellor]

i could be mistaken, but im pretty sure michigan state does not require biochemistry. they require that you take 8 credit gen bio sequence, plus an upper level course, such as biochem or something else. does anyone know differently?

From their website they require:

Completion of one upper-level (junior- or senior-level) biological science course from within the following areas: biochemistry, cell biology, embryology, genetics, microbiology, molecular biology, neuroscience, or physiology.

 

[DrVanNostran]

Only noting required, NOT schools which recommend it:

USC
UCI
FSU-4hrs
Florida-4hrs
Hawai'i
Michigan
Mayo
Minnesota
Nebraska
New Mexico
OHSU
UT-SA

BTW this info is from MSAR. Michigan State only RECOMMENDS it be taken.

 

[PhillyBoyInTN]

My school offers Biochem of Macromolecules + Lab and Biochem of Metabolism + Lab. Which one would I want to take?

 

[SirTony76]

I don't understand why some schools would require biochemistry if you are going to take it your first year of medical school? What is the value in taking something twice?

 

[tch001]

UMDNJ only reccomends, does not require

 

[Rafa]

I don't understand why some schools would require biochemistry if you are going to take it your first year of medical school? What is the value in taking something twice?

Some schools don't teach Biochem first year. And in either case, you've got a much better chance of adjusting (re: not failing) if you've seen the material before - even if only from a less in-depth environment. You could use the "why take it if you're going to take it next year" argument to argue against taking physics, chemistry, math, and english in high school before going to college, or even against taking biology and chemistry in college before going to med school. It might be a hassle, but it's meant to help the students.

 

[DrVanNostran]

Some schools don't teach Biochem first year. And in either case, you've got a much better chance of adjusting (re: not failing) if you've seen the material before - even if only from a less in-depth environment. You could use the "why take it if you're going to take it next year" argument to argue against taking physics, chemistry, math, and english in high school before going to college, or even against taking biology and chemistry in college before going to med school. It might be a hassle, but it's meant to help the students.

Also, you have to realize that Medical Biochemistry is a bit different than then Biochem you take in undergrad....I have taken both (Medical Biochem as part of my masters) and can tell you that taking biochem as an undergrad REALLY helped. There is just a differnent emphasis, so some schools probably feel it necessary to take it as an undergrad.

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

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[tangledupinblue]

anyone know if taking biochem pass/fail is acceptable to fulfill the requirement for all of the above listed schools???

 

[rehanyazdani]

Actually, Michigan State gives you a choice. Here's the info from their website:

Completion of one upper-level (junior- or senior-level) biological science course from within the following areas: biochemistry, cell biology, embryology, genetics, microbiology, molecular biology, neuroscience, or physiology.

 

[spospo]

So is the requirement for the University of Florida...

1. Take 4 credits of Biochemistry
2. Take Biochemistry I and Biochemistry Lab?

If it's #1, then wouldn't Biochemistry I and Biochemistry II (with no lab) cover the requirement?

the way i read it is that they require 4 sem hrs of biochem (and they assume that to be a 3hr class and a 1hr lab). If your school does not offer the lab with Biochem I, then i think they let you go with only 3. i do not know though if they would not let you go with 3 if your school had Biochem II.

 

[PhillyBoyInTN]

BUMP

My school offers Biochem of Macromolecules + Lab and Biochem of Metabolism + Lab. Which one would be best?

 

[anes_asmaj]

So is the requirement for the University of Florida...

1. Take 4 credits of Biochemistry
2. Take Biochemistry I and Biochemistry Lab?

If it's #1, then wouldn't Biochemistry I and Biochemistry II (with no lab) cover the requirement?

Undergraduate biochemistry throught the medical school school (BCH 4024) and chemistry dept (CHM 3218) are both worth 4 credits at UF. The lab is not mandatory, except for majors.

 

[ryandote]

There are a few different programs/curriculums that Case Western has....I know that one requires Biochem and one doesnt....

That's straight from their website and I called to be sure..

 

[PBandJ]

There are a few different programs/curriculums that Case Western has....I know that one requires Biochem and one doesnt....

That's straight from their website and I called to be sure..

The College program (i.e. Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine) requires biochemistry. I'm not sure if it's a requirement for the University program (Case Western School of Medicine). I am going to call the College office and ask if I can take it during this year while I am applying.

 

[ADeadLois]

The College program (i.e. Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine) requires biochemistry. I'm not sure if it's a requirement for the University program (Case Western School of Medicine). I am going to call the College office and ask if I can take it during this year while I am applying.

According to MSAR, biochemistry is not required for the University program.

 

[LauraPaz]

BUMP

My school offers Biochem of Macromolecules + Lab and Biochem of Metabolism + Lab. Which one would be best?

From everything I've seen and heard, you want Metabolism. I majored in Biochem and thus had exposure to both of those. From my own standpoint, metabolism is WAY more useful to med students. This is also the impression I have gotten from other applicants and the websites for the schools themselves.

 

[runningmom]

Only noting required, NOT schools which recommend it:

USC
UCI
FSU-4hrs
Florida-4hrs
Hawai'i
Michigan
Mayo
Minnesota
Nebraska
New Mexico
OHSU
UT-SA

UT - SA requires it starting this year (for students applying for 2007 admission). It *ISN'T* listed as a requirement in the MSARs, but it is a requirement.

 

[Law2Doc]

And in either case, you've got a much better chance of adjusting (re: not failing) if you've seen the material before - even if only from a less in-depth environment.

LOL - It only helps you adjust and gives you a leg up if everyone else hasn't also taken it. (And even then the value is somewhat overrrated). Truth of the matter is med school courses move so fast and cover so much material, that whatever you've studied in undergrad will only be a benefit for a couple of weeks tops. And if everyone else has already had it, it only makes it harder, because the expectations are now higher.

 

[Hednej]

Yep, UTSA requires it and I think most other UT schools might add it as a req in the next two or three years.

 

[bruinboy88]

this may be a stupid question, but the requirements that med schools enforce are all pre-matriculation right? meaning i could take some of them (i.e. biochem) during my senior year after I have applied?

 

[PBandJ]

this may be a stupid question, but the requirements that med schools enforce are all pre-matriculation right? meaning i could take some of them (i.e. biochem) during my senior year after I have applied?

Yes, I believe that is true, generally speaking. Unless they specifically say that you must or are encouraged to take all pre-requisite classes before applying, I would think that it's ok for you to take it within your application year. I've graduated already and didn't realize that I would be applying to some schools who want biochemistry, so I think I will be taking it in the fall. If you're concerned, you can check with those individual schools. In my case, I'll have to check with them since the course is not reflected on my AMCAS coursework listing (b/c I wasn't sure if I'd be taking the class in the fall or spring and not sure where yet).

 

[Law2Doc]

this may be a stupid question, but the requirements that med schools enforce are all pre-matriculation right? meaning i could take some of them (i.e. biochem) during my senior year after I have applied?

Yes, but if you are not a sci major, this will be problematic as you may not have too many courses in your BCPM and may give med schools pause. They like to see success in prereqs, and if you haven't done them yet, they can't.