Which Anatomy Atlas?

[oudoc08]

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We are required to purchase one of the following atlases

Grant's Atlas of Anatomy
Netter's Atlas of Human Anatomy
Rohen Color Atlas of Anatomy

Please comment.

As well, it is also optional to purchase Moore's Clinically Oriented Anatomy.
Any thoughts?

Thank you.

 

[flighterdoc]

We are required to purchase one of the following atlases

Grant's Atlas of Anatomy
Netter's Atlas of Human Anatomy
Rohen Color Atlas of Anatomy

Please comment.

As well, it is also optional to purchase Moore's Clinically Oriented Anatomy.
Any thoughts?

Thank you.

Netters - drawings, what it's supposed to look like
Rohen - Photos, of what (one particular individual in each) actually looked like.

I like them both, but I haven't had a med-school anatomy class yet.

 

[Retinamark]

The photos in Rohen are fantastic when preparing for practical exams, where they stick pins in bits & you have to identify them.

My favorite illustrated atlas is Clemente.

Moore's is also very good

 

[dancinjenn]

I have a netters that I used for undergrad cadaver lab...yes we had actual cadavers...the pictures are very detailed and easy to follow. I never had a problem transferring the drawn images to the real body. Also the drawings of deep tissue and cut-aways are very easy to understand...and may not be as easy to see on the body because of poor dissections. I am not sure what book Wayne uses, but I will be using my Netters for sure.

 

[Retinamark]

I should have mentioned Netters too. It is also excellent. It's very expensive here though.

 

[omarsaleh66]

i used moores, netters and grants. It was adequate for the written portion, but if i could do it over, i would get rohens atlas as well, looking at the real body and the positions of the cadavers can really help for the practical exams (50% of the test). having a rohens can probably save alot of time cuz u wont have to go to the lab as much when u can study the cadavers using the Rohens at home.

I also found HY anatomy, HY embryo and BRS anatomy (good questions) pretty good.

Peace

 

[CaptainJack02]

I have a netters that I used for undergrad cadaver lab...yes we had actual cadavers...

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?! What undergrad school allows their kids to use actual cadavers? I thought when people donate their body they specifically mention medical school education. That's an effed up system..actual cadavers for undergrads...ridiculous!

 

[flighterdoc]

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?! What undergrad school allows their kids to use actual cadavers? I thought when people donate their body they specifically mention medical school education. That's an effed up system..actual cadavers for undergrads...ridiculous!

Cal State Northridge has an undergrad anatomy class that uses cadavers - or at least one, that they wheel out for special occasions. Not quite sure about that, I've gotten several different reports.

Santa Monica College (a CC) also has a cadaver based anatomy class.

 

[sunflower79]

ahem, back to the thread.

hands down, Netter's for lecture, Rohen for lab practical. I am a very strong visual learner and learned just to look at pictures when I study -- and draw. Reading to me is a waste of time because words don't stick. However, if you need a source of motivation, e.g. "why learn where everything in the body is?", Moore's is a nice perk because the blue boxes tell you the clinical correlations.

my $.02,
~sunflower

 

[RasputinDO]

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?! What undergrad school allows their kids to use actual cadavers? I thought when people donate their body they specifically mention medical school education. That's an effed up system..actual cadavers for undergrads...ridiculous!

There are some schools that have undergrad PT programs and these programs will often include Gross Anatomy with cadavers. I had friends that were in this program at Northeastern and they had this class their freshman year

 

[donnyfire]

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?! What undergrad school allows their kids to use actual cadavers? I thought when people donate their body they specifically mention medical school education. That's an effed up system..actual cadavers for undergrads...ridiculous!

Actually my undergrad (U Wisconsin-Whitewater) had (has) human cadavers as well.

 

[Sweet Tea]

Grant's was recommended for our class, but I barely used it. Thankfully, my big buddy gave me his old copy so I didn't waste money on it. Netter's was great and had everything clearly labeled. I borrowed a Rohen's, but I didn't use it much because I learned better by using Netter's to figure out where it was supposed to be, and then doing the work of looking for it myself. Rohen's was helpful if I was really stumped, but I'm glad I didn't buy it.

I think anatomy is one of those classes where people have really different learning styles. Some people (like me) learned best by digging around in the lab and comparing different structures on different bodies. Others learned best using Moore and an atlas. Anatomy was my favorite class of first year, but I spent most of that semester reeking of formaldahyde.

Edit: my undergrad (UNC-Chapel Hill) had human cadavers available, too. You had to take a specific anatomy class and get an A to be allowed to take the lab, but it was available.

 

[VienneseWaltz]

I thought the Netter's Flashcards were a help, but I wasn't that impressed with the atlas. I frequently couldn't find what I needed in Netter's, but I thought Clemente was great (but expensive).

 

[VienneseWaltz]

I think the lesson here is try to borrow before you buy so that you know what works for YOU. 🙂

 

[Sweet Tea]

I thought the Netter's Flashcards were a help, but I wasn't that impressed with the atlas. I frequently couldn't find what I needed in Netter's, but I thought Clemente was great (but expensive).

oh i loved the flashcards. my little buddy will be getting those.

 

[Iffy premed]

Definitely get the Netter, if nothing else. The drawings are very detailed, and show the anatomical relationships that are often tested in the lecture and lab exams. Can't trust your own dissection to see some of the intricate anatomical relationships, b/c most cadavers are like preserved meat. I didn't use Rohen, but heard it was very helpful. Don't get Grant's, I have used Grant's during dissection, and compared to Netter's, it is not adequate.

 

[Evil Monkey]

I bought the Color Atlas and Grant's for Gross and hated Grants. Netter's is the way to go to learn the material but the Grant's dissector manual has good quizes and the Color Atlas is better for the practical since it has actual photos of dissections. Things are very idealized in Grants/Netters/Clemente drawings vs the real dissection. This becomes more of an issue when you hit the head and neck.

 

[YzIa]

The university of wisconsin system seems to be doing well in this area. UW - La Crosse undergrad Anat and Phys will have 4 cadavers ( 2 new, 2 old ) for fall semester. I believe the cadavers are "extras" that WI med schools and PT/OT/PA programs do not need, where the undergrad institutions can attempt to get them.

 

[Deuce 007 MD]

I'm going to go against the grain here and say that I liked grants alot because it would give you schematics of nerves (whole section in back for cranal) and blood vessel paths. Grants also gives schematics of muslces in relavent plains/layers. These schematics made learning relationships much eaiser then the cluttered netter's and clemente's (teaches at my school, so didn't want to disrespect him by pulling out my grant's during lab). Then after learning relationships used Rohen's to see what they are really supposed to look like.

 

[DW]

I think the lesson here is try to borrow before you buy so that you know what works for YOU. 🙂

quoting for emphasis 👍

 

[Purifyer]

Noone has mentioned the most important factor........... A NEW NETTER CAME OUT.... within the last year(?) !!!!!! Who else shares my fetish of new editions of medical books? I just about ejaculated on myself when I saw that baby in the library one day.

Seriously though, this topic has been commented on to death and beyond. In 20 years the same thread will pop up on SDN and the same replies will come. Netter = good for concept... but in real life nerves aren't a yellowy colour and veins/arteries aren't respectively blue/red in a preserved cadaver. (this may sound obvious but I was quite shocked during my first practical exam to discover this... I had completely skipped a semester of dissection class).

If your medical school is worth anything, don't buy moore. The profs are sure to have written their own little treatise on the human body and expect you to learn from it, as it's their words that will be tested 😉

 

[flighterdoc]

Noone has mentioned the most important factor........... A NEW NETTER CAME OUT.... within the last year(?) !!!!!! Who else shares my fetish of new editions of medical books? I just about ejaculated on myself when I saw that baby in the library one day.

Err, no?

Seriously though, this topic has been commented on to death and beyond. In 20 years the same thread will pop up on SDN and the same replies will come. Netter = good for concept... but in real life nerves aren't a yellowy colour and veins/arteries aren't respectively blue/red in a preserved cadaver. (this may sound obvious but I was quite shocked during my first practical exam to discover this... I had completely skipped a semester of dissection class).

20 years is a long time. 20 years ago Grays was the anatomy text used by just about all. Want to go back to that?

20 years from now, books on paper will be museum pieces, I think.

 

[Purifyer]

Err, no?

Err, your reply makes no syntactic sense.

20 years is a long time. 20 years ago Grays was the anatomy text used by just about all. Want to go back to that?

Depends. If it came with a new cover, maybe.

 

[nabeya]

Netter's is my best friend this semester, as well as the Big Moore book. I love the blue boxes in them. Now, while we're talking about anatomy, what's the best way to study for the anatomy shelf exam? Blue boxes in Moore, BRS questions, and Anatomy pre test questions will be sufficient?? BRS is too detailed and too much to read in my opinion, I'd probably forget all of it after I finally get done reading it.

 

[omarsaleh66]

Netter's is my best friend this semester, as well as the Big Moore book. I love the blue boxes in them. Now, while we're talking about anatomy, what's the best way to study for the anatomy shelf exam? Blue boxes in Moore, BRS questions, and Anatomy pre test questions will be sufficient?? BRS is too detailed and too much to read in my opinion, I'd probably forget all of it after I finally get done reading it.

For the NBME shelf, there was alot of stuff from First AID, especially the embryo stuff. Make sure u are familiar w the vascular MRI/CTs of the head, the lung, and the tracheal region. Know stuff like whats behing the hepatoduodenal ligament (ans. Inf vena cava). Know First Aid cold, and then also supplement w Hi Yield. The best prep for the shelf is really how well u did in the class for the whole semester. Its too hard to cram all the info in at the end if u dont know ur stuff.

 

[sunflower79]

I thought the Netter's Flashcards were a help, but I wasn't that impressed with the atlas. I frequently couldn't find what I needed in Netter's, but I thought Clemente was great (but expensive).

Did I mention you need to get the Netter CD. Type in what you want and you get 10 different views of it all within clicks.