Which computer would you buy for med school?

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So, I've been wanting a Macbook Pro and an ipod touch for a while now. So, I was really waiting for the "back-to-school" sale that they do every year to get a good deal for both. Well, there are rumors that the freebie is going to be $100 gift card. Which I don't even have a ipod to load itunes music on it and I buy dvds of my fav movies and shows not download. So...it's kinda stupid for me.

On the other hand, Microsoft is offering a free Xbox with their computers that are cheaper than the macs and I've always been a PC person, but i have had trouble out of them. They are user friendly for a while (at least in my opinion).

I guess i want to know what SDN thinks. Should I still front the cash to buy the MBP with the useless freebie or get the good freebie and cheaper PC?😕
 
Ladoctora44 said:
So, I've been wanting a Macbook Pro and an ipod touch for a while now. So, I was really waiting for the "back-to-school" sale that they do every year to get a good deal for both. Well, there are rumors that the freebie is going to be $100 gift card. Which I don't even have a ipod to load itunes music on it and I buy dvds of my fav movies and shows not download. So...it's kinda stupid for me.

On the other hand, Microsoft is offering a free Xbox with their computers that are cheaper than the macs and I've always been a PC person, but i have had trouble out of them. They are user friendly for a while (at least in my opinion).

I guess i want to know what SDN thinks. Should I still front the cash to buy the MBP with the useless freebie or get the good freebie and cheaper PC?😕
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I've been looking around too and my top choice now is actually the Dell all-in-one 23" with a touch screen. It's a desktop so probably not what you're looking for. Honestly, I don't think Apple is worth the insane price. I'm probably going to get a desktop and a netbook for cheaper than a Macbook.
 
This question pops up a lot. Someone should just make a list like they do with all the other common stuff. Maybe add "official" and copious amounts of * and ~ to the title.
 
I really think Macs are overpriced and don't always have the same "Normal" programs.

A girl in my lab had a mac and it was hard sharing data and whatnot because she didn't even have freaking excel.

Get a PC. Apple is useless.
 
paul411 said:
This question pops up a lot. Someone should just make a list like they do with all the other common stuff. Maybe add "official" and copious amounts of * and ~ to the title.
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Haha yeah. Well, I'm sure computer questions do pop up a lot. However, I was wanting to know the forum's opinion on not only the computers, but also the deals...
 
iceman132 said:
A girl in my lab had a mac and it was hard sharing data and whatnot because she didn't even have freaking excel.
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That's a problem with the girl and not the platform. Apple has the same Microsoft Office programs available. As an Apple user at home and a Windows user at work, I can tell you that there are no compatibility problems as far as file sharing.

As to your assertion that Macs are overpriced, well, it's your opinion and you're certainly entitled to it.
 
Ladoctora44 said:
Haha yeah. Well, I'm sure computer questions do pop up a lot. However, I was wanting to know the forum's opinion on not only the computers, but also the deals...
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You'll certainly get opinions (plural), but the readers of this forum do not have a consensus opinion (singular).

To get the best advice, list out what your needs are and then we'll hopefully suggest options that meet all of them. Otherwise, you'll only get people's answers to what they would buy for themselves, which may or may not be the right choice for you.
 
Agreed. I have never been a fan of macbooks, but everyone on here talks highly of them
 
Ladoctora44 said:
Haha yeah. Well, I'm sure computer questions do pop up a lot. However, I was wanting to know the forum's opinion on not only the computers, but also the deals...
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Mac's usually don't have good deals because Apple is the only manufacturer. PC's on the other hand have better deals because of the many hardware manufacturers. I always find really good PC deals on deals2buy.com if you're interesting in going the PC route. I've gotten the best PC deals around Christmas time - I'm waiting till then to get my official med school computer.

iceman132 said:
I really think Macs are overpriced and don't always have the same "Normal" programs.

A girl in my lab had a mac and it was hard sharing data and whatnot because she didn't even have freaking excel.

Get a PC. Apple is useless.
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Google Docs - baller MS Office replacement. They're even (re)releasing offline mode for Google Docs later this summer, so... no one really needs MS Office anymore.
 
mauberley....grammar noted. Thank you. lol

And I guess my needs are a good, reliable computer for school. I am not a computer savvy person. Specifically, I would like a computer with a good battery life because the one I have is CRAP (seriously, it doesn't even last 2 seconds unplugged). But other than that, I really just wanted opinions about which one is the better deal depending on the computer.
 
Guys, let's be honest. We are a bunch of students. We don't need special specs or fancy gadgets. Almost any computer you have will run excel, word, powerpoint, pdf's, and 99% of the things you will probably use on a day to day basis. There's a small possibility that a hospital may use some software that isn't available on Mac's yet, but typically this barrier has already been removed.

Pick whichever you can afford and you enjoy using most and fits your taste. This isn't a huge decision and the fact that you're going to be a medical student should have little bearing on which you choose (just pop the extra $40 for an extra battery if that's your biggest concern).

The better "deal" will almost invariably be a PC.
 
I think Macs MAY be be better if you're loaded and have terrible computer sense. (Which is why I think a lot of girls prefer them)

You can't build your computer AT ALL with a mac (add more memory etc)
 
Ladoctora44 said:
mauberley....grammar noted. Thank you. lol

And I guess my needs are a good, reliable computer for school. I am not a computer savvy person. Specifically, I would like a computer with a good battery life because the one I have is CRAP (seriously, it doesn't even last 2 seconds unplugged). But other than that, I really just wanted opinions about which one is the better deal depending on the computer.
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I agree with Narmerguy on the battery thing. Just get an extra/better battery for your computer on Amazon. Cheap and easy.
 
Narmerguy said:
Guys, let's be honest. We are a bunch of students. We don't need special specs or fancy gadgets. Almost any computer you have will run excel, word, powerpoint, pdf's, and 99% of the things you will probably use on a day to day basis. There's a small possibility that a hospital may use some software that isn't available on Mac's yet, but typically this barrier has already been removed.

Pick whichever you can afford and you enjoy using most and fits your taste. This isn't a huge decision and the fact that you're going to be a medical student should have little bearing on which you choose (just pop the extra $40 for an extra battery if that's your biggest concern).

The better "deal" will almost invariably be a PC.
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Agreed,

I don't get the fascination with macs.... "Oh, you don't get viruses"

If you're not going on every porn site in existence then you won't have a problem. Just use some common sense.
 
Narmerguy said:
Guys, let's be honest. We are a bunch of students. We don't need special specs or fancy gadgets. Almost any computer you have will run excel, word, powerpoint, pdf's, and 99% of the things you will probably use on a day to day basis. There's a small possibility that a hospital may use some software that isn't available on Mac's yet, but typically this barrier has already been removed.

Pick whichever you can afford and you enjoy using most and fits your taste. This isn't a huge decision and the fact that you're going to be a medical student should have little bearing on which you choose (just pop the extra $40 for an extra battery if that's your biggest concern).

The better "deal" will almost invariably be a PC.
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This sounds too reasonable to be serious. 😉
 
I have replaced the battery several times. I've been told that there is some defect in my computer that is screwing up my power, but I am way past my warranty to get a replacement. At this point, I have to get a new computer.
 
paul411 said:
I agree with Narmerguy on the battery thing. Just get an extra/better battery for your computer on Amazon. Cheap and easy.
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Well, batteries can cost you up to 80-100 dollars. They really aren't all that cheap (Cheaper then a whole new laptop though)

Getting a mini laptop could be a solution. They are great for going to class with
 
mauberley said:
That's cool. I don't get the dunderheaded PC zealot fanbois, either. 🙄
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You can't build on a mac and they are just ridiculously expensive compared to a PC.

From what I understand macs don't get viruses and have better battery life. Maybe you can enlighten me.
 
Ladoctora44 said:
mauberley....grammar noted. Thank you. lol

And I guess my needs are a good, reliable computer for school. I am not a computer savvy person. Specifically, I would like a computer with a good battery life because the one I have is CRAP (seriously, it doesn't even last 2 seconds unplugged). But other than that, I really just wanted opinions about which one is the better deal depending on the computer.
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It sounds like you just had a lemon for a computer. Most contemporary laptops should not be like that. That having been said, based on your stated needs, I'd just find an inexpensive PC. There's no reason for you to get a Mac unless you've already tried it out and decided that the advantages of the platform are must-haves for you. I wouldn't let your bad experience sour you on Windows computers in general, especially since build quality varies among manufacturers.

My personal advice would be to look into a Lenovo Thinkpad or a Dell.
 
iceman132 said:
You can't build on a mac and they are just ridiculously expensive compared to a PC.

From what I understand macs don't get viruses and have better battery life. Maybe you can enlighten me.
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It boils down to purchasing the right machine for your needs and not chastising or otherwise insulting people for not having the same needs or desires you have. I do appreciate your categorical assumption that all computer-savvy people prefer PCs and would never consider Macs, however.
 
mauberley said:
It boils down to purchasing the right machine for your needs and not chastising or otherwise insulting people for not having the same needs or desires you have. I do appreciate your categorical assumption that all computer-savvy people prefer PCs and would never consider Macs, however.
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From what I understand that's the way it goes. Every "gamer" and "dude who can build a computer" hates macs.

I do not mean to insult but to inform.

Again, I ask you to enlighten me.
 
iceman132 said:
From what I understand that's the way it goes. Every "gamer" and "dude who can build a computer" hates macs.

I do not mean to insult but to inform.

Again, I ask you to enlighten me.
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Gamers and do-it-yourselfers do not comprise the entirety of the computer-savvy demographic. You're trying to extrapolate from a nonrepresentative percentage of the technological community to its entirety, and I'm telling you from experience that you're simply wrong to generalize like that. I have worked as a software engineer for nearly eight years, have been involved in IT since high school, and have been known to do a bit of gaming on the side. I've built my own boxes, installed and maintained any number of Linux distros, have worked with Suns, PCs, and Macs, but my personal computer is a Mac. I have many colleagues as well who hold similar opinions. Why? It's simple, it works, it does what I need it to do. It incorporated tons of usability features in advance of Microsoft including them in Vista and later Windows 7. I appreciate Mac OS X's BSD underpinnings for when I need to tinker at that low level, and appreciate the elegant interface for when I want to be as hands-off as possible.

Once you've been around for awhile, you start to realize that despite all of the evangelism that permeates the air, there is no One True Platform. There are only options that meet different needs for different people. I'm not going to tell a gamer or a do-it-yourselfer that a Mac is better for them, because it's not. Likewise, until you understand what the OP's needs are and their rationale for considering their different options, it's disingenuous and unhelpful to provide responses that aren't grounded in their desires.
 
I have a MacBook and recommend it. You don't need to worry about the ability to "build" your computer, because obviously that is outside your tech needs/dreams/desires. This is also why I recommend MacBook and not MBP. You simply don't need all that power for your needs. Might as well save a buck and have a slightly more portable (in size and weight) laptop.

I find Macs to be extremely reliable. My original iBook is going on 9 years and still runs beautifully. I passed it on to my lil brother a couple years ago when I got the MacBook. If you get a dud (it happens, they're assembled en masse), it usually manifests itself right away and Apple will simply replace your unit at no cost. (They just replace them because it's cheaper labor/parts-wise since Apples aren't "buildable.") It wasn't a problem. After my iBook had proved itself, my immediate and extended PC family eventually became Mac people.

Because my Mac is reliable, I'm just planning to buy a decent $200 auxiliary monitor to make a brainstation at home. I can take my Mac with me to school and then plug-it in to a 22-27" monitor to work with when I study at home. This is a cheaper option for me yet gives me the luxury of being able to spread all my notes and windows out at home (my dual screen at work got me hooked on having multiple monitors/excessive amounts of space). I figure I'll also be able to save because I won't have a TV (the one I use now is my roommate's). I'm not going to get cable or anything since I should probably limit the amount of shows I watch once school starts. When I do want to unwind with mindless television or a movie, I can just watch it on the screen, streamed off the internet.
 
mauberley said:
gamers and do-it-yourselfers do not comprise the entirety of the computer-savvy demographic. You're trying to extrapolate from a nonrepresentative percentage of the technological community to its entirety, and i'm telling you from experience that you're simply wrong to generalize like that. I have worked as a software engineer for nearly eight years, have been involved in it since high school, and have been known to do a bit of gaming on the side. I've built my own boxes, installed and maintained any number of linux distros, have worked with suns, pcs, and macs, but my personal computer is a mac. I have many colleagues as well who hold similar opinions. Why? It's simple, it works, it does what i need it to do. It incorporated tons of usability features in advance of microsoft including them in vista and later windows 7. I appreciate mac os x's bsd underpinnings for when i need to tinker at that low level, and appreciate the elegant interface for when i want to be as hands-off as possible.

Once you've been around for awhile, you start to realize that despite all of the evangelism that permeates the air, there is no one true platform. There are only options that meet different needs for different people. I'm not going to tell a gamer or a do-it-yourselfer that a mac is better for them, because it's not. Likewise, until you understand what the op's needs are and their rationale for considering their different options, it's disingenuous and unhelpful to provide responses that aren't grounded in their desires.
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+1
 
iceman132 said:
I really think Macs are overpriced and don't always have the same "Normal" programs.

A girl in my lab had a mac and it was hard sharing data and whatnot because she didn't even have freaking excel.

Get a PC. Apple is useless.
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Macs have Microsoft Office. That problem wasn't the Mac, it was that she didn't have the software. You could encounter that same problem with a PC owner who doesn't have Microsoft Office. Mind-blowing, I know...
 
iceman132 said:
I think Macs MAY be be better if you're loaded and have terrible computer sense. (Which is why I think a lot of girls prefer them)

You can't build your computer AT ALL with a mac (add more memory etc)
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First, wow...

Also, yes you can upgrade them (add more memory etc). You may dislike macs for whatever reason, but you should probably make sure your reasons are based on facts...
 
I use both a Mac and a PC and I prefer a PC. It's comparatively cheaper and I'm simply more used to it than I am with a Mac. I've never had a problem with a PC before, but I feel as if people who say that they've never had a problem with a Mac but have had countless problems with PCs just take better care of their Mac because of their past frustrations.
 
If you're a student, you can get a 13" MBP with a 2.3 GHz Core i5, 4 gb of DDR3 RAM and a 500 gb HDD for $1099. I just bought one myself and couldn't be happier -- great looking display, good form factor, tons of space and very speedy. Yes, you can find PCs cheaper, but OS X (especially OS X Lion which comes out in July) has a ton of great applications already built it, plus you don't need to shell out money for Norton or any anti-malware protection.

Regarding the MS Office applications, you can find copies online for $85 or you can download one of the open source applications that read, write and save the same exact way all of the others do. You're going to have to pay for Office whether you're on Mac or PC, unless someone is running some special offer when the software runs for free.

As much as I hate to say it, Windows 7 is a great operating system, but it doesn't touch OS X (although it copies it 🙄), especially with the release of Lion. There's a reason Mac sales are increasing at 24% and PCs are declining at -1%.
 
Office for Mac is horrible. This is coming from a Macbook Pro user by the way.

When I got my MBP as a graduation gift, I was happy with it (I got it during Microsoft's Vista days) but since the release of Windows 7 if you were to ask me which computer I would get, I would say go for the Windows computer.

Honestly there is nothing a Windows computer can't do that Mac can (except run a Mac OS obviously). I just don't think the price of a Mac is worth it, especially since a lot of Window's laptops offer better specs and a wider selection for a better price anyway.

I say, go with whichever you prefer. I like both operating systems but the Mac OSX isn't leaps and bounds over Windows like some people say it is. They are pretty much equal to me.
 
As long as you have a Sandy Bridge chip (and it seems almost every new laptop this year has one apparently), you're golden.
 
this thread again??

ANY recently and decently spec'ed computer will do just FINE

med students DO NOT have any special computer needs, and if you personally do have exceptional computer needs you wouldnt be asking this question in the first place.
 
I'm extremely biased against Macs. PC all the way! (Plus go get yourself that free 360!)
 
addo said:
this thread again??

ANY recently and decently spec'ed computer will do just FINE

med students DO NOT have any special computer needs, and if you personally do have exceptional computer needs you wouldnt be asking this question in the first place.
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Seriously. Yeah, any real computer (read: non-netbook, non-tablet) manufactured and for sale within the past 2 (maybe 3-4?) years will be suitable.
 
mauberley said:
As to your assertion that Macs are overpriced, well, it's your opinion and you're certainly entitled to it.
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I personally consider ~twice the price to be overpriced and think it's even more true for the stereotypical "broke college student".

And yes, Macs can and do get serviced, I work with a company that does on-site warranty work for Apples (among many others). You don't hear about it as much because Apple has this thing about just replacing them, but it does happen. Honestly, Sony laptops are just as horrible to work on as Apple, so it's not purely a Mac thing. Toshiba aren't a whole lot better.

Realistically, however, other than popping in a memory upgrade or replacing a dying/full hard drive, the typical laptop user is never going to need to service their laptop. The same goes for desktops, except *maybe* include "upgrade a video card" in that list. So basing your decision on the serviceability of a machine is pretty silly.

Your best bet is to a) contact your school of choice to make sure they don't have any requirements (especially if you are going into an arts major or something highly technical that might be using software like Mathmatica) and, failing that, ask them about any deals they have arranged with a manufacturer. It's not at all uncommon for a school (particularly the smaller LACs) to have a deal in place with one of the big three (Dell, IBM, Apple) to provide a set configuration for a really nice price. If that is the case, you're very likely going to get the best possible deal there because they usually throw in four year service contracts and MS Office Student.

If you don't want to pay for or pirate a copy of MS Office, then look into Open Office. I'd say it's about 95% as good as MS Office (aka will do anything all but the most extreme users require) and it's 100% free. Not even ads.
 
Do people still believe that Macs don't get viruses? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Defender, especially regarding how Apple initially responded. But yeah, that said, Windows works fine with common sense and if you look carefully you can almost certainly get free anti-virus software. Microsoft now has Security Essentials for any personal Windows PC for free, and your university or future medical school is likely to offer a site licensed package that covers your computer as well.

Also...I think "PCs" get a bad rep because of the many manufacturers that exist. A bad experience, say, with Dell, will often cause someone to apply the label to all Windows computers when the experience had nothing to do with Windows. This is in part why Apple prevents you from legally installing Mac OS on anything other than a Mac (there is no specific hardware limitation or incompatibility that prevents you from installing Mac OS on other manufacturers' computers).

Anyways, just pick what you're more comfortable with. Macs are definitely overpriced for their specs, but if you value being able to use Mac OS or the build quality of a Macbook, well then that's how much value the laptop is worth to you. While you can say that a lot of people shouldn't and don't worry about the specs...I just want to throw out there that those same people tend to be the ones that end up buying a new laptop more frequently than those that do put some thought into what the different CPU options are. If not that, then they often end up with a slower computer that those of equivalent age because they bought a "deal" that had a lower system spec.
 
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ywlke said:
Anyways, just pick what you're more comfortable with. Macs are definitely overpriced for their specs, but if you value being able to use Mac OS or the build quality of a Macbook, well then that's how much value the laptop is worth to you. While you can say that a lot of people shouldn't and don't worry about the specs...I just want to throw out there that those same people tend to be the ones that end up buying a new laptop more frequently than those that do put some thought into what the different CPU options are. If not that, then they often end up with a slower computer that those of equivalent age because they bought a "deal" that had a lower system spec.
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This is what has happen to me. When i first graduated high school, I got a cheap acer because i thought i just need a computer that I can do my homework on and access the internet. Two years later, the computer crashed with NO warning. The hard drive was shot and I lost everything. I had to by a new computer. I got a Dell inspiron. I've only had this inspiron for a two and a half years and i've replaced the power cord twice and the battery several times. I am tired of this. For the price of the two computers and various parts i've bought in 5 years, I could have bought one more expensive computer.

So, I know this is an annoying question to everyone, but I would really just like a long lasting computer that will not give me a lot of trouble...

It seems like that might be a mac from what i've heard.
 
The general consensus is that Apple and Lenovo ThinkPads have the best build qualities (not in any particular order). ASUS is also pretty good but I haven't heard as much about them as I have about the other two. (And this from CS students.)

Dell Latitudes (business line) will also be built better than Inspirons (general consumer line).
 
Ladoctora44 said:
This is what has happen to me. When i first graduated high school, I got a cheap acer because i thought i just need a computer that I can do my homework on and access the internet. Two years later, the computer crashed with NO warning. The hard drive was shot and I lost everything. I had to by a new computer. I got a Dell inspiron. I've only had this inspiron for a two and a half years and i've replaced the power cord twice and the battery several times. I am tired of this. For the price of the two computers and various parts i've bought in 5 years, I could have bought one more expensive computer.

So, I know this is an annoying question to everyone, but I would really just like a long lasting computer that will not give me a lot of trouble...

It seems like that might be a mac from what i've heard.
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Macs are great. My wife has had her Macbook for three years with zero problems. I have had my iMac for over 2 years with zero problems. I know people who have 10 year old Macs, and only buy new ones because they want the new OS or new features that come with the new ones. It's basically a myth that you can't do what you need on a Mac.
 
ywlke said:
The general consensus is that Apple and Lenovo ThinkPads have the best build qualities (not in any particular order). ASUS is also pretty good but I haven't heard as much about them as I have about the other two. (And this from CS students.)

Dell Latitudes (business line) will also be built better than Inspirons (general consumer line).
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I agree with all of the above. I've used a Dell Latitude at work for many years and have never had a problem with the hardware.
 
Thanks, everyone! The more I think about it...I think I'm leaning towards the Macbook Pro. Everyone I know with macs have had little to no problems and I can't say the same for PCs...
 
Ladoctora44 said:
Thanks, everyone! The more I think about it...I think I'm leaning towards the Macbook Pro. Everyone I know with macs have had little to no problems and I can't say the same for PCs...
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They just don't know how to use it.
 
I would ask the school that you're going to go for which they offer better support for.

Many schools are moving towards wanting you to buy a computer through them for med school with all the software etc preloaded.
 
To throw something in there...you don't have to pay for any anti-virus/malware/etc. with a PC.

http://www.avast.com/index
http://free.avg.com/us-en/homepage
http://www.zonealarm.com/security/en-us/zonealarm-pc-security-free-firewall.htm
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html

These are just the most popular firewalls/anti-virus/spyware. These are actually free too...none of the douchey Symantec 90 day free trial crap. Go to http://download.cnet.com/windows/ to look for more stuff if you want. I personally use Avast because it has a bunch of active protection for free and uses up way less memory than AVG when its running.

I just hate it when people think that Symantec/McAfee/etc. are the only anti-virus programs out there.
 
ridethecliche said:
I would ask the school that you're going to go for which they offer better support for.

Many schools are moving towards wanting you to buy a computer through them for med school with all the software etc preloaded.
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Thanks for the tip. Majority of people at my school have MBP. I don't think they were bought through the school.


And calvinandhobbs68, I've, personally, never had a big virus problem (I have free AVG download on the PC i'm using right now) my problems have been poor manufactured computers with crappy batteries that don't hold a charge. And I have to replace every 4 months. I also have dealt with crashes that happen with no warning at all. I'm sure there are better PCs out there than the ones i've own, but I think i'm ready to try something different for a while.
 
calvnandhobbs68 said:
To throw something in there...you don't have to pay for any anti-virus/malware/etc. with a PC.

http://www.avast.com/index
http://free.avg.com/us-en/homepage
http://www.zonealarm.com/security/en-us/zonealarm-pc-security-free-firewall.htm
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html

These are just the most popular firewalls/anti-virus/spyware. These are actually free too...none of the douchey Symantec 90 day free trial crap. Go to http://download.cnet.com/windows/ to look for more stuff if you want. I personally use Avast because it has a bunch of active protection for free and uses up way less memory than AVG when its running.

I just hate it when people think that Symantec/McAfee/etc. are the only anti-virus programs out there.
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May not even need them much longer on Windows (http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/18/microsoft-to-malware-your-autorunning-days-on-windows-are-numbe/). I run AVG and MalwareBytes once a month and nothing ever pops up because I don't click on ads/popups (nor do I see them, see AdBlock Plus for Firefox and Chrome) and I'm not dumb with downloaded files. OSX is getting more viruses as the platform becomes more popular, too. Still not nearly as many as for Windows, but they're increasing.
 
I did not read the thread to see where it has gone, but best buy is offering $100 gift card to best buy when you buy a Mac. So you are not stuck with that $100 "useless" iTunes card and can actually buy something useful.

I love my MBP and if you want to make it really fly, fork out the extra money for the SSD drive. You will probably want the 256GB, so its going to cost quite a bit extra, but IMO its totally worth it if you plan on keeping the computer for a long time. It will be "top of the line" for quite some time with a SSD regardless of what processors do in the next couple of years.

Here is the info on the best buy card. Apparently you have to ask for it cause they are not advertising it. http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/19/best-buy-to-match-back-to-school-promo-with-100-store-gift-card/
 
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