Which feels worse and/or is harder to move on from?

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Which feels worse and/or is harder to move on from?

  • Getting rejected by all MDs you apply to

    Votes: 63 62.4%

  • Heart broken from a serious relationship

    Votes: 38 37.6%
  • Total voters
    101
If you love yourself and your career/future more than your partner, MDs. If you love your partner as much or more than yourself, relationship.
 
I would go with full MD rejection. It feels like a rejection of your own character, of you, as a person; while your ego can brush off the other one as incompatibility.

You don't want to be incompatible with your future.
 
MD rejection for all schools. Anyways, I bet after you get an MD acceptance she will probably run back to you. If your SO is a male, then I doubt it.
 
chillinillinkillin007 said:
MD rejection for all schools. Anyways, I bet after you get an MD acceptance she will probably run back to you. If your SO is a male, then I doubt it.
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If your SO is a male, where else would he run to? *ba-dum-tish*
 
There are far more potential relationships than medical schools. And a girlfriend costs more 😉
 
claduva94 said:
I also get a lot of practice inserting needles into those collapsed veins 😉
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Pssh, skin popping is all the rage now, get it together man. I know you want practice venipuncture, but you've really got to take her needs into consideration and go for the better high.
 
This is a red pill way of thinking (for males) but your career is more important than a meaningless relationship with a female who is programmed to pursue the best possible alpha male. Yes, that means once she has decided to move on she will give 0 ****s about you and never look back. Being heartbroken is inevitable at first but soon you have to realize that the 'love' you were feeling is just a high, an elevated emotional state with surge of dopamine levels. Develop yourself into a high quality man and meet/game multiple women. Just my 0.02
 
lazyindy said:
This is a red pill way of thinking (for males) but your career is more important than a meaningless relationship with a female who is programmed to pursue the best possible alpha male. Yes, that means once she has decided to move on she will give 0 ****s about you and never look back. Being heartbroken is inevitable at first but soon you have to realize that the 'love' you were feeling is just a high, an elevated emotional state with surge of dopamine levels. Develop yourself into a high quality man and meet/game multiple women. Just my 0.02
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Wow, that's a horrifying perspective. Thank you for demonstrating why I don't bother dating - takes too much effort to sift through crap like this.
 
type12 said:
I would go with full MD rejection. It feels like a rejection of your own character, of you, as a person; while your ego can brush off the other one as incompatibility.

You don't want to be incompatible with your future.
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+1
 
mehc012 said:
I know what'll cheer you up! Which is worse, chopping your own toe off or chopping your brother's arm off?!?
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Hmmmn, that depends on which brother you're referring to.

Edit: one of my brothers is legit evil. He's the type of dude that would sell you into slavery if he could.
 
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mehc012 said:
Wow, that's a horrifying perspective. Thank you for demonstrating why I don't bother dating - takes too much effort to sift through crap like this.
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Why don't we try offering an explanation as to why my perspective was so 'horrifying' before bashing it? I think were better than that.
 
ridethecliche said:
I think you're quite certainly a misogynist idiot.
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Do you even know the definition of a misogynist? here I'll help you out:

mi·sog·y·nist
məˈsäjənist/
noun
noun: misogynist; plural noun: misogynists
1.
a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women

So apparently me choosing rejection from all MD schools as being more devastating over a broken relationship is practicing misogyny?
 
lazyindy said:
This is a red pill way of thinking (for males) but your career is more important than a meaningless relationship with a female who is programmed to pursue the best possible alpha male. Yes, that means once she has decided to move on she will give 0 ****s about you and never look back. Being heartbroken is inevitable at first but soon you have to realize that the 'love' you were feeling is just a high, an elevated emotional state with surge of dopamine levels. Develop yourself into a high quality man and meet/game multiple women. Just my 0.02
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Pretty sure that should answer your question right there.
 
lazyindy said:
This is a red pill way of thinking (for males) but your career is more important than a meaningless relationship with a female who is programmed to pursue the best possible alpha male. Yes, that means once she has decided to move on she will give 0 ****s about you and never look back. Being heartbroken is inevitable at first but soon you have to realize that the 'love' you were feeling is just a high, an elevated emotional state with surge of dopamine levels. Develop yourself into a high quality man and meet/game multiple women. Just my 0.02
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damn dog
 
ridethecliche said:
Pretty sure that should answer your question right there.
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oohh no!! better stop that lazyindy dude. How dare he become social, improve his physique, focus on his career, meet women, and satisfy his primal urges? This is Blasphemy! This is misogyny!! we must put an end to this!!

🙄
[sarcasm]
 
Cyberdyne 101 said:
Could have sworn I hit the "like" icon earlier. What's sad is that many don't see anything wrong with that perspective.
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I couldn't be more happier now than I ever was. So maybe I'm not seeing the fault in my perspective?
 
lazyindy said:
Why don't we try offering an explanation as to why my perspective was so 'horrifying' before bashing it? I think were better than that.
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I find it insulting to generalize that women behave only as 'programmed', with no further motivation/rationale. I also find the "go game a bunch of women" to be disturbing, as 'game' implies 'take advantage of', which is why you generally see it used in contexts such as "game the system".

I find it horrifying because, as someone who does not wish to be taken advantage of, the idea that there are people out there with perspectives similar to your own means that I have to have a high level of caution any time someone expresses an interest, which complicates the situation unnecessarily and makes what should be an enjoyable experience seem more like navigating a series of hazards, and ain't nobody got time for dat.
 
LOL people actually chose med school over serious relationship. That just goes to show how many pre-meds haven't experienced the latter... Why am I not surprised.
 
Well I have a fiancé, so it's different. She means the world to me. I know it's cliché, but it's true. Medical school is just a process, one year you could have a weak application, but you can still try next year. Losing my girl would devastate me.
 
Womb Raider said:
LOL people actually chose med school over serious relationship. That just goes to show how many pre-meds haven't experienced the latter... Why am I not surprised.
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There's a difference between choosing one over the other and going

Gurls are liek programmed to hurr durr durrr durr
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Also, referring to girls/women as 'females'. Ahaha. Man, you'll get it when you're older or you'll get a few slaps in the face. Some people learn the hard way.
 
mehc012 said:
I find it insulting to generalize that women behave only as 'programmed', with no further motivation/rationale. I also find the "go game a bunch of women" to be disturbing, as 'game' implies 'take advantage of', which is why you generally see it used in contexts such as "game the system".

I find it horrifying because, as someone who does not wish to be taken advantage of, the idea that there are people out there with perspectives similar to your own means that I have to have a high level of caution any time someone expresses an interest, which complicates the situation unnecessarily and makes what should be an enjoyable experience seem more like navigating a series of hazards, and ain't nobody got time for dat.
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This is a common misconception about game that people generally deduce. Game is not about taking advantage of the opposite sex at all. It actually teaches how to be socially savvy and respect yourself (self confidence that others might call being 'cocky'). And if the girl/woman enjoys your presence and your charisma, leads to intimacy which is on the consent of both sexes. So how am I taking advantage of a girl if she enjoys being with me?

Also why is it called 'taking advantage of' only when men want to be intimate with the opposite sex? By this logic, hypothetically, if you pursued a man/female/trans whatever you were attracted to and took steps to get closer with him, I can also claim you're taking advantage of him. You can't have your cake and eat it too sweety 😉. Let me give you an example of real exploitation: A woman agrees to have sex with a man, the next morning she finds out she wasn't really attracted to him and she claims that he 'raped' her. Now with the government and society being overly protective of women the guy is screwed and he has to jump through hoops to be acquitted.

About my programmed comment. I guess you never took evolutionary biology or don't have exposure to this but men are evolutionary wired to mate with as many women as possible and women are wired to only mate with the best possible mate. It's simple, both sexes are designed to reproduce, like all other organisms. Men produce ample sperm throughout their lifetime but it's game over for women after menopause when their eggs dry up. Why do you think so many women start looking for a 'good guy' to settle down with after riding the cock carousel in their teens-20's? Sad part is the sucker 'good guy' may not even know he's getting damaged goods if the women hides it (which is what happens). I can't really blame him if he's oblivious to the fact that most women slut it up in their youth but slut it up only to the top 20% of alpha males.

In the end were all entitled to our opinion and how we go about living our lives. Whether you choose to date or not makes no difference to me or the next guy. I guess start looking for an apartment with space for 10 cats when you're older?
 
ridethecliche said:
Also, referring to girls/women as 'females'. Ahaha. Man, you'll get it when you're older or you'll get a few slaps in the face. Some people learn the hard way.
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Sorry but I'm not so dependent on another person especially a woman that I must judge my self worth according to her and get 'slapped in the face'. Maybe you're just another average frustrated chump whose easily whipped?
 
lazyindy said:
This is a common misconception about game that people generally deduce. Game is not about taking advantage of the opposite sex at all. It actually teaches how to be socially savvy and respect yourself (self confidence that others might call being 'cocky'). And if the girl/woman enjoys your presence and your charisma, leads to intimacy which is on the consent of both sexes. So how am I taking advantage of a girl if she enjoys being with me?

Also why is it called 'taking advantage of' only when men want to be intimate with the opposite sex? By this logic, hypothetically, if you pursued a man/female/trans whatever you were attracted to and took steps to get closer with him, I can also claim you're taking advantage of him. You can't have your cake and eat it too sweety 😉. Let me give you an example of real exploitation: A woman agrees to have sex with a man, the next morning she finds out she wasn't really attracted to him and she claims that he 'raped' her. Now with the government and society being overly protective of women the guy is screwed and he has to jump through hoops to be acquitted.

About my programmed comment. I guess you never took evolutionary biology or don't have exposure to this but men are evolutionary wired to mate with as many women as possible and women are wired to only mate with the best possible mate. It's simple, both sexes are designed to reproduce, like all other organisms. Men produce ample sperm throughout their lifetime but it's game over for women after menopause when their eggs dry up. Why do you think so many women start looking for a 'good guy' to settle down with after riding the cock carousel in their teens-20's? Sad part is the sucker 'good guy' may not even know he's getting damaged goods if the women hides it (which is what happens). I can't really blame him if he's oblivious to the fact that most women slut it up in their youth but slut it up only to the top 20% of alpha males.

In the end were all entitled to our opinion and how we go about living our lives. Whether you choose to date or not makes no difference to me or the next guy. I guess start looking for an apartment with space for 10 cats when you're older?
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You're perfectly entitled to it...you just also happen to be exactly what I'm looking to avoid - and that's not an uncommon feeling in response to sentiments such as your own.
I'm entitled to think that you're the perfect example of what to avoid in the dating world (aka the crap I have to sift through before finding someone decent).

I don't know what the heck you are talking about as 'game'. I'm talking about the general context/usage of that word. If you are trying to express something different, you should use a different, better fitting word.
The 'taking advantage' of bit is generally pretending to be invested in forms of intimacy other than sexual, when in fact you are only interested in the sex. There is nothing wrong with casual sex - as long as everyone involved is aware that it is intended to be a 'wham, bam, thank you ma'am(/sir)' type situation. ANYone of ANY sex/gender/whatever who is purposefully misleading in order to get only what they want, is taking advantage. I only used 'guys' because that is my dating pool, which is what I was discussing at the time. Even if the sex itself is enjoyable, if you pretend that you want more than that when you don't, you are lying, and being lied to is actively unenjoyable.

And please, don't call me 'sweety'.
 
lazyindy said:
Sorry but I'm not so dependent on another person especially a woman that I must judge my self worth according to her and get 'slapped in the face'. Maybe you're just another average frustrated chump whose easily whipped?
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And here we have another candidate for the award of deluded pre med exceptionalism.
 
lazyindy said:
Develop yourself into a high quality man and meet/game multiple women. Just my 0.02
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Contradiction. A high quality man doesn't game multiple women. That might just be the beta ***** in me though.

lazyindy said:
Why don't we try offering an explanation as to why my perspective was so 'horrifying' before bashing it? I think were better than that.
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Answer:
Game- manipulate (a situation), typically in a way that is unfair or unscrupulous.
"it was very easy for a few big companies to game the system"

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mehc012 said:
You're perfectly entitled to it...you just also happen to be exactly what I'm looking to avoid - and that's not an uncommon feeling in response to sentiments such as your own.
I'm entitled to think that you're the perfect example of what to avoid in the dating world (aka the crap I have to sift through before finding someone decent).

I don't know what the heck you are talking about as 'game'. I'm talking about the general context/usage of that word. If you are trying to express something different, you should use a different, better fitting word.
The 'taking advantage' of bit is generally pretending to be invested in forms of intimacy other than sexual, when in fact you are only interested in the sex. There is nothing wrong with casual sex - as long as everyone involved is aware that it is intended to be a 'wham, bam, thank you ma'am(/sir)' type situation. ANYone of ANY sex/gender/whatever who is purposefully misleading in order to get only what they want, is taking advantage. I only used 'guys' because that is my dating pool, which is what I was discussing at the time. Even if the sex itself is enjoyable, if you pretend that you want more than that when you don't, you are lying, and being lied to is actively unenjoyable.

And please, don't call me 'sweety'.
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You are right in that there's nothing wrong with casual sex when both parties are aware of the fact. Here's the catch though, women only engage in casual sex with alpha men (men who have status, looks, and confidence). Now not all men meet those requirements which is why game (term I used) is important for teaching men how to be confident in themselves and have high self-esteem, to attract the opposite sex. Confidence is key. The end result is you have sex with the female you want who wouldn't have been receptive otherwise. If everyone is ok with the idea of just casual sex as you said, then I don't see the problem. Why does the average guy or above average guy who craves sex just as much as the next person get to be an involuntary celibate while the alpha men enjoy the pleasures?

Your claim as to 'taking advantage' of a girl who is interested in a relationship while the guy wants sex is one sided and narrow. From a man's point of view, if he's invested in the relationship and the girl is sucking random cock every now and then behind his back, then who's the one taking advantage here?

You don't get to decide for every one of 'who to avoid' in the dating world sweetheart. But I won't argue further since it will only waste my time.
 
Back on topic....


I chose MD (humorously) because:

(To quote a prof of mine after he learned a star student turned down a doctoral program to move elsewhere with her boyfriend)

"Over 50% of marriages end in divorce, a doctorate is forever."


But really I think how much either hurts depends on how much you've invested in it.
 
Thales said:
Contradiction. A high quality man doesn't game multiple women. That might just be the beta ***** in me though.


Answer:
Game- manipulate (a situation), typically in a way that is unfair or unscrupulous.
"it was very easy for a few big companies to game the system"

959b6064404c36916ad01a4675b0669bb13fa07fd7835be357282ce6fce34c80.jpg
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I never implied specifically that a high quality male should game multiple women, I only claimed he can. Guess I should have made that clearer. And why do you get to decide what someone else does and doesn't? It's a matter of perspective, to you a high quality man may practice monogamy, to another person his phone is filled with numbers of booty calls.

Also: Game
(verb)
(transitive) To exploit loopholes in a system or bureaucracy in a way which defeats or nullifies the spirit of the rules in effect, usually to obtain a result which otherwise would be unobtainable.

In the sense I was implying game: a way for an average/above average man to have sex or achieve intimacy with a women who will only ***** out to the top men if given the chance.
 
wholeheartedly said:
I chose MD (humorously) because:

(To quote a prof of mine after he learned a star student turned down a doctoral program to move elsewhere with her boyfriend)

"Over 50% of marriages end in divorce, a doctorate is forever."

But really I think how much either hurts depends on how much you've invested in it.
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^This is partly why I chose MD. Also, having experienced the catastrophic implosion of a serious relationship I've developed coping strategies...
 
Womb Raider said:
LOL people actually chose med school over serious relationship. That just goes to show how many pre-meds haven't experienced the latter... Why am I not surprised.
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What are you basing this off of? I have experienced 3 relationships and I will still be more devastated over not being able to start my career earlier than a relationship which can be sought at any time.
 
If you love someone with all of your heart and want to spend the rest of your life with them, being accepted into medical school is insignificant. The only problem with this line of thinking is that a lot of relationships aren't as dedicated and amazing as the example I gave. In fact, I would argue that most college relationships aren't all that deep, although there are obviously some exceptions.

I would rather be accepted into medical school than continuing dating a "decent" person. However, if I feel like this is the girl who was meant for me... well, that's simply priceless.
 
Which feels worse and/or is harder to move on from?

(a) To keep reading this thread
(b) To punch yourself in the nuts/Fallopian tubes


I think (b) for me.
 
lazyindy said:
And why do you get to decide what someone else does and doesn't?
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I never implied specifically that I get to decide what someone else does and doesn't. In fact, I simple offered an opinion- just like you're doing.

lazyindy said:
It's a matter of perspective, to you a high quality man may practice monogamy, to another person his phone is filled with numbers of booty calls.
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Exactly, I never claimed to offer anyone else's perspective. However, most people (who aren't sociopaths, not that I'm implying you're one) would agree that a "high quality" human being doesn't go around gaming other people; whether that means exploiting loopholes in a system/bureaucracy or manipulating a situation in the hopes of getting laid.

lazyindy said:
In the sense I was implying game: a way for an average/above average man to have sex or achieve intimacy with a women who will only ***** out to the top men if given the chance.
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If you've developed yourself into a high quality man why do you need game/gamesmanship (loopholes and manipulation) to get laid?

I consider myself average and I've managed to achieve intimacy with every woman I've ever been interested in. No games, no loopholes, no roofie coladas.

Rustie said:
However, if I feel like this is the girl who was meant for me... well, that's simply priceless.
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Very true. I'm positive I could find another partner if something didn't work out with my wife, but our relationship is priceless. She's supportive of my goals, loyal, attractive and we click.
 
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