Which loupes light do you recommend? Surgical? Orascoptic? DFV?

[skqkgk123]

Which company do you recommend?

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[Alpha Centauri]

Anyone have input on Zeiss?

 

[O Gaúcho]

I just got my Surgitel loupes and I love them!

 

[Endeross]

q-optics prisms with lumadent light was the best combo that I tried, but they were 2200 with discounts as a student so I went with lumadent loupes + light, 1100 bucks for mine total and were about 80% as good I'd say, but I didnt have the money to fork out for the betters at that moment. I plan to upgrade to Q-optics loupes 4th year.

 

[lemoncurry]

ultralight optics. good light. good customer service. good price for students.

 

[OhioDMD]

Lumadent works well with my Ziess loupes plus I believe they give you a student discount.

 

[Legacy382]

Q-optics prismatics

 

[Incis0r]

Over the course of several weeks last term, some friends and I met with the reps from Q-Optics, Surgitel, Orascoptic, and DFV during lunch.

Out of all of them, I liked Q-Optics the most. Personally, I feel that they have the best customer service (the rep is on campus every week, super easy to get in touch with by text, etc), the most lightweight loupes I tried on, decent optical quality (not the best - I believe Orascoptic may have the best optical quality), very economically priced, and that frame warranty was amazing.

I was between the 3.5x non-prismatic & 4.5x prismatic from Q-Optics. Went back and forth and tried them on countless times.

At the end of the day, I went 3.5x non-prismatic with Q-Optics, and will be supplementing it with a Lumadent light.

 

[free99]

Over the course of several weeks last term, some friends and I met with the reps from Q-Optics, Surgitel, Orascoptic, and DFV during lunch.

Out of all of them, I liked Q-Optics the most. Personally, I feel that they have the best customer service (the rep is on campus every week, super easy to get in touch with by text, etc), the most lightweight loupes I tried on, decent optical quality (not the best - I believe Orascoptic may have the best optical quality), very economically priced, and that frame warranty was amazing.

I was between the 3.5x non-prismatic & 4.5x prismatic from Q-Optics. Went back and forth and tried them on countless times.

At the end of the day, I went 3.5x non-prismatic with Q-Optics, and will be supplementing it with a Lumadent light.

I know you're a guy who thinks through his decisions thoroughly, curious about your decision to land on that particular lens. We were forced to buy 2.5x loupes and I'm looking into all my options to upgrade to something with a bit more power before I graduate

 

[Incis0r]

I know you're a guy who thinks through his decisions thoroughly, curious about your decision to land on that particular lens. We were forced to buy 2.5x loupes and I'm looking into all my options to upgrade to something with a bit more power before I graduate

Thanks! I appreciate the compliment.

So as background, the 3.5x non-prismatic was $895 and the 4.5x prismatic was $1,940. Both prices exclude light (which is $395 if you go q optics)

Now, when I looked at the typodont arch model through both, I asked myself if I saw a large enough improvement to justify the price difference. I looked through both at my measured working distance to see what the image would look like if I was in the sim lab. Here’s what I found:

1) 3.5x was lighter on my face.

2) 3.5x has a shorter barrel and allowed more light in easily. The image I saw through the 4.5x prismatic was darker.

3) I learned that the 3.5x was also more forgiving as far as depth of field went. Whereas with 4.5x prismatic, it was less so.

4) I personally did not appreciate a significant improvement in quality or magnification between 3.5x non-prismatic and 4.5x prismatic, certainly not one that is big enough to justify an additional $1,000. Perhaps after a few years when I’m more experienced, I will appreciate this difference more. We’ll see.

I read what a lot of people here said about the 4.5x prismatic and was ready to drop the $$ to get it. At the end of the day though, I felt the 3.5x is the better fit for me.

 

[dyesht]

anyone have the orascoptic zoom? its like 3x-5x

 

[DentalArmy]

I have Q Optics 4.5x prismatic with lumadent light and have been very happy with them.

 

[hellopeople]

Lumadent is a solid choice. Most of the loupe manufactures also make a decent light.
Definitely get one though. it's even more helpful than the magnification in my opinion.

 

[sjv]

Lumadent or Ultralight.

 

[pikaboo]

Anyone have input on Zeiss?

Very expensive tho very good, it's like buying an apple product; you are paying for a brand name + the actual product.


Orascoptic 3.8 prisms with the light are my go to. Great company, great customer service, and great product.

 

[Faux]

Thanks! I appreciate the compliment.

So as background, the 3.5x non-prismatic was $895 and the 4.5x prismatic was $1,940. Both prices exclude light (which is $395 if you go q optics)

Now, when I looked at the typodont arch model through both, I asked myself if I saw a large enough improvement to justify the price difference. I looked through both at my measured working distance to see what the image would look like if I was in the sim lab. Here’s what I found:

1) 3.5x was lighter on my face.

2) 3.5x has a shorter barrel and allowed more light in easily. The image I saw through the 4.5x prismatic was darker.

3) I learned that the 3.5x was also more forgiving as far as depth of field went. Whereas with 4.5x prismatic, it was less so.

4) I personally did not appreciate a significant improvement in quality or magnification between 3.5x non-prismatic and 4.5x prismatic, certainly not one that is big enough to justify an additional $1,000. Perhaps after a few years when I’m more experienced, I will appreciate this difference more. We’ll see.

I read what a lot of people here said about the 4.5x prismatic and was ready to drop the $$ to get it. At the end of the day though, I felt the 3.5x is the better fit for me.

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2) The higher the magnification, the more light you need. I think Lumadent, ultralight and one other brand has some of the brightest LEDS we have.

3) That really goes away after 2-3 appointments. It really bothered me at first to the point that it discouraged me from using them at all. Now it actually encourages me to use good posture and now I don't even notice the smaller depth of field anymore.

4) I felt the same way first while using it on the typdont (going from 2.5 to 4.5). Feels like a total different ball game in the mouth for some reason. If anything, I kind of want to go a bit higher.

Anyowho, these are the loupes I have



I have 2.5x and 4.5x. With the 4.5x I can easily see the quadrant. I'm kind of tempted to give 5.5 x a whirl.


OmniOptic™

 

[Incis0r]

3) That really goes away after 2-3 appointments. It really bothered me at first to the point that it discouraged me from using them at all. Now it actually encourages me to use good posture and now I don't even notice the smaller depth of field anymore.

I'm glad it went away after 2-3 appointments for you. You might be right - maybe it would have for me as well - I just felt more comfortable with the 3.5x at that time and didn't want to risk getting discouraged with using loupes.

I agree that it encourages good posture.

I had to drill a class V on 19, 20, 29, and 30 during operative, and I noticed that I was already developing a very bad habit of hunching in to look at my preps - the loupes alerted me to this since the image would go out of focus if I hunched in.

By the end of it, I was just manipulating the mannequin head, sitting up straight and drilling. A D4 assisting in the course came by and told me that she thought I had great posture. I told her it was all due to the loupes. You're right: they are definitely game-changers.

4) I felt the same way first while using it on the typdont (going from 2.5 to 4.5). Feels like a total different ball game in the mouth for some reason. If anything, I kind of want to go a bit higher.

This is very interesting. I'll ask my upperclassmen next week if they've experienced the same thing.

 

[Incis0r]

Your school already has D1 taking Operative? We're still waxing tooth anatomy at our school...

Yep! Each school has its own schedule, so don't worry. You've likely knocked out some stuff that we haven't gotten to yet.

Enjoy waxing! And you've got a lot to look forward to because operative is a lot more fun (esp. when you get loupes) - I'm heading in to lab today and am totally pumped to drill some preps.

 

[BluntForceTrauma]

Yep! Each school has its own schedule, so don't worry. You've likely knocked out some stuff that we haven't gotten to yet.

Enjoy waxing! And you've got a lot to look forward to because operative is a lot more fun (esp. when you get loupes) - I'm heading in to lab today and am totally pumped to drill some preps.

Day I got my loupes was like getting a new set of eyes. I waxed, drilled, and still wear them as much as I can. Operative would be miserable without em.

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