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I know some schools give a certain, set amount of $ to students; I think UMSL gives 5 or 7K to all out of staters, and either UCBSO or SCCO also does this.

Can anyone confirm this or expand on what you know about other schools?
 
To ALL out of staters? I know some schools have contract seats with a few surrounding states, and if you're from one of those states that state will give you some money but for each year you take it you have to go back and practice in that state, otherwise you have to pay it back. It's not an automatic thing, I know here at SCO there are a certain number of contract seats for a particular state so not everyone from that state is guaranteed the money.
 
I think UCBSO gives money to everybody (amount varies each year) and OOS gets a bit more due to higher their costs.
 
No, I'm not talking about contract seats, just money for out of state people. UMSL lists an average scholarship as 7,000 if you are out of state. I know I read something about one of the california schools doing something similar (I read this last admission cycle). I did a search, but can't find it. Just wondering if anyone knew more.
 
What do you mean by 'give money?' Are you referring to scholarships that schools offer or loans that you eventually have to pay back?
 
UCBSO automatically gives each of its students a scholarship for a certain amount every year. This amount varies depending on the financial situation of the optometry school and varies based upon which year you are at UCBSO. SCCO does not give all of its students scholarships, at SCCO you must apply for financial aid and be accepted based upon your financial situation.
 
UCBSO automatically gives each of its students a scholarship for a certain amount every year. This amount varies depending on the financial situation of the optometry school and varies based upon which year you are at UCBSO. SCCO does not give all of its students scholarships, at SCCO you must apply for financial aid and be accepted based upon your financial situation.

So, receiving a scholarship from UCBSO doesn't depend on GPA and OAT scores? Every student receives it? If true, that's a good deal. I know you mentioned the amount varies, but what's the ballpark figure for a first year student? $1000?
 
UCBSO has some grant money that they give to everybody. There's also additional merit based scholarships that you can apply for.
 
I know some schools give a certain, set amount of $ to students; I think UMSL gives 5 or 7K to all out of staters, and either UCBSO or SCCO also does this.

Can anyone confirm this or expand on what you know about other schools?

I'm currently a third year student at UMSL so I am somewhat familiar with what you're speaking of. UMSL does automatically (as in, you don't have to apply for them) offer what they call Merit Scholarships to MOST, but not ALL accepted students. There is a HUGE range and it does depend on in-state and out-of-state tuition with ofcourse out-state being substantially more (since we pay more🙂). As I mentioned before though this may not be offered to every student. I know some factors that contribute to the amount are OAT scores and GPA. What surprised me at UMSL was I knew how much they were offering me the day of my interview. I'm not sure about contract seats, I know they didn't have one from my state, but I'm can't comment on any other states. Have a good day 🙂
 
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Hey SmileyBugg, would you know what percentage of UMSL optometry students actually maintain the 2.5 GPA required for all 4 years? Because for non-residents, UMSL's tuition is kinda steep to begin with...wouldn't be nice if most people just got low grades in first year & lost the scholarship right away.
 
I can confirm that all UCBSO students in good standing (anybody with over 3.0 GPA) usually get grants ranging from 2-4K every year (in-state residents), with 1st years on the lower end of the range and then getting more with each progressive year. So all the students in the same graduating class get the same amount in grant money as one another. This does not include scholarship money or separate grants based on financial need from the Graduate Division of UCB.

Out-of state residents get more, but that's usually just the first year since everyone can apply for residency after the 1st year (except Canadians). I'm not certain about the exact figure of future grants, since it all depends on the school's finances/donation funds every year. Those who do a full semester out-of-state for their rotation/externship also pay $3,500 LESS in tuition that year (policy starting this year).
 
I wonder why they're electing to give grant money rather than just lowering tuition instead?
 
Our tuition fees are determined by a number of factors, including the Graduate Division and overall University of California system. All professional schools (Business, Law, Optometry etc) in the Graduate Division are required to pay "professional fees" as part of our tuition. We can't reduce these professional fees required by the University, but the Optometry department can try to off-set some of it by giving grants to all students in good standing.

If anybody is wondering why 3.0 GPA is considered "Good Standing" at UCBSO, it's because that's a rule that applies across ALL graduate departments within the University of California system.
 
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So are the individuals who are not in good standing (those below 3.0 GPA but passing their classes) on some sort of academic probation or do they just not receive money?

I imagine it could be a bit challenging to maintain a 3.0.
 
First, it is not challenging to maintain a 3.0 GPA at UCBSO because students here tend to have a history of balancing their academics above 3.0. Remember, in order to be considered for admission, your GPA has to be at least 3.0 (With some exceptions, it can be 2.8 or 2.9). Its pretty common for ppl to have a GPA similar to their undergrad GPA (from a similarly competitive school) since our study habits tend to remain the same or improve.

If your GPA hits 3.1, the administration keeps in touch with you to monitor your academic progress and identifies any outside problems (health, family issues, laziness etc). Some instructors contact students personally when they receive a poor MT grade to see if they need more help. Others offer additional practice time outside of class for struggling students. BSK (honor society) members offer free tutoring. Study groups are common and the library is next door to our lecture hall, often filled with students between classes. We are free to practice in pre-clinic at any hour/day and easily find a practice partner via emails. Furthermore, most classes (not all) are graded on a curve, so as long as you fall within the stardard deviation, you are usually doing fine. Odds are, if you're mediocre in one subject, you may be doing great in another, so your GPA evens out.

To answer your question, I believe those with GPA below 3.0 will be on academic probation and won't receive grant money for the following semester. However, if they raise their GPA above 3.0 the next semester, they'll be out of academic probation and get money again. Overall, academic probation and failure is rare since the faculty/school tries to prevent students from reaching that point.
 
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