Which schools requires community service experience the most when looking for applicants?

[Govols22]

We know that having legitimate research experience is essentially a requirement for most Top 20 medical schools, but what are some examples of schools that require extensive volunteer service? Yes, all schools want volunteer service, but which schools will be incredibly difficult to get into if you have relatively little volunteer experience. Rush for example basically requires at least 100 hours of service. Right?

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[sephora89]

The Jesuit schools (Loyola, Georgetown, Creighton, SLU) and Tulane seem to place a lot of emphasis on non-clinical volunteering.

Rush has an insane service requirement! The average matriculant apparently has 600-800 hours of volunteering and something like 12-1800 patient contact hours.

 

[Govols22]

The Jesuit schools (Loyola, Georgetown, Creighton, SLU) and Tulane seem to place a lot of emphasis on non-clinical volunteering.

Rush has an insane service requirement! The average matriculant apparently has 600-800 hours of volunteering and something like 12-1800 patient contact hours.

1200 to 1800 patient contact hours? Wow. I guess I have no business applying there. Is rush the most extreme case?

 

[mr.mkitty]

Yeh, Rush is pretty clinical/volunteer heavy. If you've had a regular job in college that gives you clinical experience (nursing assistant, ect.), it should give you enough!

 

[TallPreMed]

*crosses Jesuit schools, Tulane and Rush of my list

 

[whatever5]

1200 to 1800 patient contact hours? Wow. I guess I have no business applying there. Is rush the most extreme case?

Apparently this cycle they had an unofficial requirement to have minimum 150 nonclinical and 150 clinical hours. I would also guess that most people with that many patient contact hours are nontrads.

 

[CaffeineJunkie]

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[Lucca]

Love Rush and their mission but this seems crazy o.o could we please get a source on that? It takes like 4 years of work at 3-5 hours a week during the school year to even get near 500...

Exactly, better hit the ground running lol. Theres something on SDN about an email Rush applicants received saying their app was tossed because they didnt meet X, Y service requirement.

 

[CaffeineJunkie]

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[Lucca]

:O I couldn't find it, any chance you could please link? I thought I was in pretty good shape just shy of 300 hours but holy **** I feel like the anti Mother Theresa right now

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/2015-2016-rush-medical-college-application-thread.1135554/

Read through the school-specific thread.

 

[CaffeineJunkie]

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[Lucca]

Well now I really really like Rush but may be underqualified lmao

Although it does sound like their average matriculant has about 620 hours spread between both clinical and non clinical

I think the lowest bar is probably much lower than 620

 

[tophericks]

I really really like Rush but may be underqualified lmao

 

[CaffeineJunkie]

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[Govols22]

I've heard about Georgetown requiring volunteer service at their school, but their percentage of accepted applicants who volunteered seems pretty average compared to other schools.

 

[TallPreMed]

Yea that's definitely fair. And like another poster said, I'm sure that number is dragged up by a decent number of non-trads (hopefully) working other jobs. Regardless, time to beef up the volunteering big time.

I'm guilty of this with my 5-6k hospice clinical hours. Sorry guys, at least I don't have any volunteer hours

 

[MedSchoolAdvice20]

I was accepted at Rush with 2,400 clinical, but only about 200 volunteer. That 600 average service hours has to be exaggerated.

 

[sephora89]

Love Rush and their mission but this seems crazy o.o could we please get a source on that? It takes like 4 years of work at 3-5 hours a week during the school year to even get near 500...

Well now I really really like Rush but may be underqualified lmao

Although it does sound like their average matriculant has about 620 hours spread between both clinical and non clinical

There were multiple posts about it but this is one I found when I went to look again: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...plication-thread.1135554/page-9#post-17237796

The Dean of Admissions mentioned it in the rejection letter. I think last year the standards were 600 non clinical and 1200 clinical so there was a big jump this year for sure.

They definitely seem stringent about the 150 hours each for clinical and non clinical but their expectations may be higher. Like when a school may have a certain GPA/MCAT cut off, they still except a much higher expectations for the students they end up accepting. I'm sure they make exceptions if a certain area of your app is stronger in one area than another (a poster above mentioned they only had 200 hours of non clinical volunteering but 2400 clinical hours!).

 

[CaffeineJunkie]

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[GrapesofRath]

These huge clinical hours show the importance of "mean vs median".

You see this alot for PA school. The average PA matriculant has 3500 hours of human patient contact. But the median PA matriculant only has 1400 hours of HCE. I suspect a similar type of thing is going on here.

Here is a potential example: You could have say 10 people in the class who worked 5 years or so in a clinical field such as a phlebotimist and accumulated 12,000 hours in that time(there are non trads like this in many schools). In a class of 100 if 90 people on average have 500 hours of clinical experience but you add those 10 people, suddenly you have a situation where the "a matriculant on average has 1600 hours of clinical experience", when in reality the median is probably close to 500.

While it's true Rush values clinical experience and community service, I dont necessairly buy that they will look at someone(particularly someone who is a relatively traditional applicant) as having say 800 hours of clinical experience and not being satisfied with that and looking down on that total as insufficient.

 

[CaffeineJunkie]

These huge clinical hours show the importance of "mean vs median".

You see this alot for PA school. The average PA matriculant has 3500 hours of human patient contact. But the median PA matriculant only has 1400 hours of HCE. I suspect a similar type of thing is going on here.

Here is a potential example: You could have say 10 people in the class who worked 5 years or so in a clinical field such as a phlebotimist and accumulated 12,000 hours in that time(there are non trads like this in many schools). In a class of 100 if 90 people on average have 500 hours of clinical experience but you add those 10 people, suddenly you have a situation where the "a matriculant on average has 1600 hours of clinical experience", when in reality the median is probably close to 500.

While it's true Rush values clinical experience and community service, I dont necessairly buy that they will look at someone(particularly someone who is a relatively traditional applicant) as having say 800 hours of clinical experience and not being satisfied with that and looking down on that total as insufficient.

Just wanted to say your insight has been a blessing to me for the past several months. Thank you!