Which schools you recommend?

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Hello,

I just applied to all nine schools for the class of 2017 and I have received invitations from all nine schools. I can't afford to visit all of them so I am trying to pick a few to go visit. One question I had is whether the specific school you go to has an effect on where you will be able to do residency. If I want to do my residency in the east coast is it a bad idea to go to CSPM or Scholl? Do residencies favor local students?

Also can you offer any advise on whether I should or shouldn't go to Temple, Scholl, CSPM, and DMU?

Thank you

 

[podlover]

Hello,

I just applied to all nine schools for the class of 2017 and I have received invitations from all nine schools. I can't afford to visit all of them so I am trying to pick a few to go visit. One question I had is whether the specific school you go to has an effect on where you will be able to do residency. If I want to do my residency in the east coast is it a bad idea to go to CSPM or Scholl? Do residencies favor local students?

Also can you offer any advise on whether I should or shouldn't go to Temple, Scholl, CSPM, and DMU?

Thank you

You have to research the schools yourself and rank them according to where you feel you fit best. All the schools have the same outcome...you will be train as a DPM. So find the one you like. If you like great weather the Cali schools, Barry or Azpod will cut down your choices. If you desire east coast then NY and Temple etc.

 

[Pod9]

You have to research the schools yourself and rank them according to where you feel you fit best. All the schools have the same outcome...you will be train as a DPM. So find the one you like. If you like great weather the Cali schools, Barry or Azpod will cut down your choices. If you desire east coast then NY and Temple etc.

Well like I mentioned I narrowed it down to temple Scholl cspm and dum and I would like to get some input about these school like does school affect residency placement and also where can I find board pass rate data

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

Well like I mentioned I narrowed it down to temple Scholl cspm and dum and I would like to get some input about these school like does school affect residency placement and also where can I find board pass rate data

Board pass rate: DMU

East Coast Residencies: Temple

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

Where students, from each school, match differs greatly from year to year. I'm from the east coast and I'm doing two externships at good programs on the east coast this coming year yet I go to Scholl. It's not uncommon for students to do externships at programs from the area they are originally from. It really doesn't matter where you go to school. Very very few programs don't accept students from certain schools.

Very true. I was just trying to give a simple answer in a world full of complexity.

 

[dyk343]

I hear (from my school's dean) that if you are a east coast student west coast residencies look harder at your application because they traditionally do not get as many applicants from the east coast.

Vice versa - east coast residencies love west coast applicants.

WIth that said - most west coast students stay west. Most east coast students stay east. But that is most likely because people go to school where they grew up and want to stay close.

 

[DrRock44]

Board pass rate: DMU

East Coast Residencies: Temple

This is the most distorted statistic you will ever see from ANY school. The way it is reported is totally flawed. DMU has the "highest" pass rate because they don't let everyone take boards part 1. if they take it later than the 1st date, it is not counted as "first time pass". I forget how they determine it, but a student who transferred to another school from there told me they don't let students they think will not pass take them [so they can keep saying they are the highest etc.]. that is why she transferred. other schools make everyone try just to see if they can pass because some people are gamers and rise to the occasion.

Don't get me wrong, DMU is a great school! I am interviewing there and it is one of my top choices. but it has nothing to do with the board pass rate

another thing to considerf is if you want a stand alone program or a DO affiliate. I know that at a lot of "DO" schools, the podiatry program is not given as much priority as others i.e. DO students dissect the cadaver and you go in after and look at it after they are done with it.

Take home message: DON'T MAKE YOUR DECISION BASED ON BOARD PASS RATE!!!!!!!!!

 

[gibbman]

DrRock44, Im not sure who you heard that rumor about DMU not allowing people to take the test first attempt, but I will let you know that you are completely wrong. The only people who are not allowed to take the test from DMU are the people that do not meet the requirements to take the test (i.e. those who have not passed all required courses). I'm not sure who transferred from DMU and stated this, but they lied to you, the only people that I am aware of that have "transferred" from DMU in the last couple of years were forced to leave the school for disciplinary reasons, other than that I am not aware of anyone transferring.

 

[nikkisorous]

I recommend any of the TOP 9 podiatry schools in the US 😉

Seriously speaking, there are no rankings and they all produce the same result, a DPM degree.

Even schools that claim 100% residency placement must be looked at holistically. Placing a class of 30 into residencies is much easier than a class of 120. Actually I would be quite worried if they couldn't place 30 students.

Even DMUs board rates.. When your class size is around 50 and you compare it to a school with a class of over 100, statistically speaking the more students you have the greater the chance for more to fail.

 

[ilovefeet]

I recommend any of the TOP 9 podiatry schools in the US 😉

Seriously speaking, there are no rankings and they all produce the same result, a DPM degree.

Even schools that claim 100% residency placement must be looked at holistically. Placing a class of 30 into residencies is much easier than a class of 120. Actually I would be quite worried if they couldn't place 30 students.

Even DMUs board rates.. When your class size is around 50 and you compare it to a school with a class of over 100, statistically speaking the more students you have the greater the chance for more to fail.

I agree.
Pick the school that you feel the most comfortable at, I think interviewing there helps. 😀

Personally, I'd pick Samuel Merritt simply because I'm from California 👍

 

[Podophile]

This is the most distorted statistic you will ever see from ANY school. The way it is reported is totally flawed. DMU has the "highest" pass rate because they don't let everyone take boards part 1. if they take it later than the 1st date, it is not counted as "first time pass". I forget how they determine it, but a student who transferred to another school from there told me they don't let students they think will not pass take them [so they can keep saying they are the highest etc.]. that is why she transferred. other schools make everyone try just to see if they can pass because some people are gamers and rise to the occasion.

Don't get me wrong, DMU is a great school! I am interviewing there and it is one of my top choices. but it has nothing to do with the board pass rate

another thing to considerf is if you want a stand alone program or a DO affiliate. I know that at a lot of "DO" schools, the podiatry program is not given as much priority as others i.e. DO students dissect the cadaver and you go in after and look at it after they are done with it.

Take home message: DON'T MAKE YOUR DECISION BASED ON BOARD PASS RATE!!!!!!!!!

Overall, just terrible and misinformed advice. The board information about DMU is 100% incorrect.

Board scores were important to me, as it is unfortunately the most objective way to compare how well a school prepares its students during the 1st two years. There are of course other factors involved including how many below par students the school lets in just to fill a class, and these people unfortunately are doomed to fail no matter how well they are academically prepped by their college.

At the end of the day, great students come from all the schools, so pick the environment that you are most comfortable in and work your tail off.

 

[Ferocity]

The top schools are Ohio, Barry, and CSPM.

 

[Pod9]

The top schools are Ohio, Barry, and CSPM.

how so?

I'm strongly considering CSPM, Temple, and Scholl

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

This is the most distorted statistic you will ever see from ANY school. The way it is reported is totally flawed. DMU has the "highest" pass rate because they don't let everyone take boards part 1. if they take it later than the 1st date, it is not counted as "first time pass". I forget how they determine it, but a student who transferred to another school from there told me they don't let students they think will not pass take them [so they can keep saying they are the highest etc.]. that is why she transferred. other schools make everyone try just to see if they can pass because some people are gamers and rise to the occasion.

Don't get me wrong, DMU is a great school! I am interviewing there and it is one of my top choices. but it has nothing to do with the board pass rate

another thing to considerf is if you want a stand alone program or a DO affiliate. I know that at a lot of "DO" schools, the podiatry program is not given as much priority as others i.e. DO students dissect the cadaver and you go in after and look at it after they are done with it.

Take home message: DON'T MAKE YOUR DECISION BASED ON BOARD PASS RATE!!!!!!!!!

This is the first I've EVER heard of DMU not letting people take the boards. I'm not saying you're wrong, but where are you getting your info from?

statistically speaking the more students you have the greater the chance for more to fail.

Do you mean "more" in terms of a finite number or percentage? Percentage should be independent of the number of students, but obviously the number would increase. That being said, board pass RATES are in terms of percentage, and therefore number of students should be irrelevant.

 

[gibbman]

From what I understand, 2nd year remediation course are offered early summer to allow students to pass them and have the opportunity to take the first sitting of part 1. I did not have to re-take any classes, so this is not first hand knowledge, but that was what I remember hearing. DMU, isn't strict about boards, they just adhere to the part 1 board guidelines like most schools. In order to take part 1 boards you must have completed all the required coursework. DMU does not require good grades, just passing grades to sit for the exam.

 

[Pod9]

another important question is when do we find out about financial aid if we are accepted?

 

[nikkisorous]

another important question is when do we find out about financial aid if we are accepted?

Not until maybe earliest march/april of 2013. You have to fill out FASFA, no different than ugrad procedures.

 

[DrRock44]

I'll be the first to admit that the specifics about DMU MAY or MAY NOT be true!!!!! (that was just one supporting detail to my argument anyway) However the opinion on score reporting/significance was explained to me by an administrator at a school with a high pass rate, more credible than ANYONE posting on this thread.[I won't give the name because it would be a violation of privacy]

I also stand by my original opinion (and point that everyone seemed to miss) that you shouldn't PRIMARILY base your decision on board pass rates.

It's your life/career/future. Do what FEELS right. I was only trying to help, no need to get offended

 

[DrRock44]

I recommend any of the TOP 9 podiatry schools in the US 😉

I love this!!!!

 

[hematosis]

👍

I hear (from my school's dean) that if you are a east coast student west coast residencies look harder at your application because they traditionally do not get as many applicants from the east coast.

Vice versa - east coast residencies love west coast applicants.

WIth that said - most west coast students stay west. Most east coast students stay east. But that is most likely because people go to school where they grew up and want to stay close.

 

[podlover]

If I may add a side note...

I have shadowed serval DPMs here in NY and also one in Ohio and I notice that ALL of the DPMs I shadowed, who operate their private practices, met some of their patients during their residency program and these patients followed these doctors all the way to their own practice.

Relationship can be built during your residency years. Therefore, it is not a bad idea to pick a residency program in an area you would like to set up your practice.

I shadowed 3rd and 4th year students at Kent State also and many of them were going back to their homestates to do residencies. I only meet two students from that school who researched and found a residency outside of their school and home that they wanted to relocate and they were going there together.😎

 

[DrRock44]

MaxillofacialMN, I noticed you have a quote from parks&rec at the bottom of some of your posts that references Vibram five fingers. I don't if you are interested in barefoot running, but Nick Campitelli and KSUCPM are conducting a rather comprehensive study on barefoot running. they are also researching shear forces as well

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

MaxillofacialMN, I noticed you have a quote from parks&rec at the bottom of some of your posts that references Vibram five fingers. I don't if you are interested in barefoot running, but Nick Campitelli and KSUCPM are conducting a rather comprehensive study on barefoot running. they are also researching shear forces as well

Cool, thanks! I'm actually not into BF running or anything, but Parks and Rec is LITERALLY the best television show of all time. And when Chris said the human foot was the ultimate technology, I had to quote him. haha

 

[Pktgresch]

I hear (from my school's dean) that if you are a east coast student west coast residencies look harder at your application because they traditionally do not get as many applicants from the east coast.

Vice versa - east coast residencies love west coast applicants.

WIth that said - most west coast students stay west. Most east coast students stay east. But that is most likely because people go to school where they grew up and want to stay close.

So what happens if you go to school in the mid west?

 

[arez10]

So what happens if you go to school in the mid west?

This might not answer your question, but I've gotten the impression so far that Chicago residencies really only take Scholl students. Some fun facts: I looked at the Scholl match list from 2012 that was posted on these forums and compared it to the number of Chicago spots, and it looks like they took up 75% of the spots. I also got a residency placement from the last 19 years from TUSPM and only 11 students matched to Chicago schools in that time frame. But maybe if you are from the area and you go to a school on one of the coasts it would be different? Who knows.

 

[Pod9]

anybody know where most dmu students match?

 

[nikkisorous]

Just look at their match list on DMUs site..