who are most happy/least happy??

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based on what you've seen, experienced, heard, etc...who would you say are the happiest surgeons and who are the least happy surgeons in terms of their job satisfaction?? curious to see what others have to say.

if i were to pick:

most: ENT, uro, pediatric

least: trauma, ortho, neuro, cardiothoracic

 

[armybound]

I've never heard of an unhappy ortho, just very very busy residents.

 

[Dissected]

According to this study it looks like Uro (community practice) was the most burned out/least satisfied! An interesting article:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21946217

 

[bleeker10]

I've never heard of an unhappy ortho, just very very busy residents.

Yea I've heard the same.

 

[KinasePro]

I'm only an M2 and I've already seen a fair share of burnt-out orthopods.

 

[JackShephard MD]

I'm only an M2 and I've already seen a fair share of burnt-out orthopods.

+ ortho has a reimbursement cutting target on their backs.

 

[Anjin]

Interesting how the article showed a negative association between burnout and cardiothoracic surgery (OR 0.626, P = 0.0117)...probably not what most people would expect.

 

[armybound]

Interesting how the article showed a negative association between burnout and cardiothoracic surgery (OR 0.626, P = 0.0117)...probably not what most people would expect.

buying your new Ferrari probably makes you appreciate your job again

 

[Buzz Me]

Interesting how the article showed a negative association between burnout and cardiothoracic surgery (OR 0.626, P = 0.0117)...probably not what most people would expect.

People go into CT Surgery knowing the lifestyle's going to be bad, patients are going to be sick, environment's going to be hostile, etc. No surprises there.

For other fields, people may be surprised to find that life isn't as cushy as they thought it would be.

 

[KinasePro]

Interesting how the article showed a negative association between burnout and cardiothoracic surgery (OR 0.626, P = 0.0117)...probably not what most people would expect.

The sample sizes are pretty bad in that paper though. The ortho responses, for example, correspond to 0.006% of orthopods in the US. For uro, it was only slightly better. Tough to take numbers like that that very seriously, they're practically anecdotal.

 

[DO1]

According to this study it looks like Uro (community practice) was the most burned out/least satisfied! An interesting article:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21946217

Did you actually read this article?

"Vascular surgeons reported the lowest level of career satisfaction, with 36% stating they would not be a surgeon again (rank 1st), whereas 54.4% would not recommend a medical career to their children (rank 1st)."

"Urologic surgeons reported an average level of career satisfaction, with 25.9% stating they would not be a surgeon again (rank 9th), whereas 47.6.1% would not recommend a medical career to their children (rank 12th)."

" Compared to general surgery, the subspecialties with a higher risk of burnout were trauma (OR 1.413, P = 0.0088), urology (OR 1.350, P = 0.0222) and otolaryngology/head and neck surgery (OR 1.282, P = 0.0397), while those with a relatively lower risk of burnout were pediatric surgery (OR 0.670, P = 0.0135) and cardiothoracic surgery (OR 0.776, P = 0.0284) after accounting for all other factors"

 

[igap]

According to this study it looks like Uro (community practice) was the most burned out/least satisfied! An interesting article:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21946217

"Conclusions; Factors associated with burnout were distinct for academic and private practice surgeons. Distress parameters were lower and career satisfaction higher for academic surgeons."

Only academic surgeons would write a paper to convince themselves that they are happier than private practice surgeons. (I think the kids write "lolz" here).

 

[Dissected]

Did you actually read this article?

"Vascular surgeons reported the lowest level of career satisfaction, with 36% stating they would not be a surgeon again (rank 1st), whereas 54.4% would not recommend a medical career to their children (rank 1st)."

"Urologic surgeons reported an average level of career satisfaction, with 25.9% stating they would not be a surgeon again (rank 9th), whereas 47.6.1% would not recommend a medical career to their children (rank 12th)."

" Compared to general surgery, the subspecialties with a higher risk of burnout were trauma (OR 1.413, P = 0.0088), urology (OR 1.350, P = 0.0222) and otolaryngology/head and neck surgery (OR 1.282, P = 0.0397), while those with a relatively lower risk of burnout were pediatric surgery (OR 0.670, P = 0.0135) and cardiothoracic surgery (OR 0.776, P = 0.0284) after accounting for all other factors"

My bad. They are the highest predictor for burnout in a private practice setting. I didn't read into satisfaction very closely. Mostly just skimmed the abstract. So no I didn't read the whole article.

"In a private practice setting, the most significant positive associations with burnout were: (1) urologic surgery (OR 1.497, P = 0.0086), (2) having 31% to 50% time for nonclinical activities (OR 1.404, P = 0.0409), (3) incentive based pay (OR 1.344, P <....... "

 

[womp]

Selection also has a lot to do with the above results.

A CT surgeon comes from a very different self-selection process than someone who went into urology, ortho or ENT expecting a relatively "cushier surgical lifestyle" and becoming burnt out when reality doesn't jive. Naturally the CT surgeon will have lower burnout, their specialty already selects people who don't give a damn about piss poor lifestyles.

 

[xf3rn4nd3sx]

I'm in neurosurgery and I'm pretty happy...

 

[cpants]

I've never met an unhappy GU attending. Residency is a different story. Generally can scale practice up or down as desired both in amount of patients and complexity of cases. You actually make more money operating less and doing bread and butter stuff. Very few middle of the night emergencies. High compensation.