Who do you work better for/with?

Started by Dr JPH
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Who brings out the best in you as a student?

  • The person who is nice, easy going and understanding.

    Votes: 59 73.8%
  • The person who is mean, intimidating and demanding.

    Votes: 18 22.5%
  • The person who is lackadaisical and doesnt seem to care either way.

    Votes: 3 3.8%

  • Total voters
    80

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I was having an interesting discussion with a fellow student the other day. We were talking about the different types of interns/residents and attendings we have worked with and what sort of attitudes drive us to work harder, study harder and really try to impress.

So whats your feeling?
 
I was having an interesting discussion with a fellow student the other day. We were talking about the different types of interns/residents and attendings we have worked with and what sort of attitudes drive us to work harder, study harder and really try to impress.

So whats your feeling?

having dealt with the gamut on surgery i placed my vote in the "nice" category. i looked up just as much info when on teams with nice attendings and chiefs as when on the team with the dingus chief, and indeed i tried to make myself as scarce as the schedule allowed on that second team... hardly the best practice for learning, i know, but i chose to do that rather than play "guess-the-chief's-mood-at-this-minute-and-cower".
 
I tend to associate "niceness" with weakness, and will not work as hard for those types of residents. Mean residents keep me on my toes.

When you get a compliment from a mean resident, you know that they mean it. When you get a compliment from a nice resident, you get the feeling they would have said, "Nice work!" even if you had just taken a dump on the floor.
 
i guess i'm really in the minority here. i prefer the resident/attending who leaves you alone and lets you do your work/learn on your own. i've learned the most when ppl stop micro-managing. on the other hand, i've had the most fun with nice ppl.
 
I would rather have someone who is nice and understanding. These are the type of people who make me feel comfortable when I ask questions and don't make me feel stupid if I am wrong or make a mistake.
 
I am finding that some of the postings regarding malignant people is very true about ob/gyn but unlike other posters, the malignants ones are men not women...go figure. I am apalled at how they treat medical students ....there is a lot of "ignoring" too which is completely counterproductive to teaching.
 
when a resident is nice to me that means they are a cool person but not necessarily interested in teaching me and furthering my education, with these sort i get along great b'c im just chit-chatting away and probably not reading/studying as much as i could , residents that fell in this category would be from IM, psych, OBgyn

when a resident is demanding that means that they will "pimp" me by asking me lots of questions about material that is actually relevant to a 3rd/4th medstudent, they will ask me to read about things a day ahead and then make sure that they go over these topics thoroughly, if i get something wrong, their "demand" will force to me to avoid mistakes by studying/working harder, if i get some pimp question wrong, i tend to remember it MORE than the ones i get right. residents that fell into this category would be mine from surgery, some from IM, some from neuro, some from OB

when a resident is an a$$hole/beotch, they belittle me, keep me in the hospital for hours when there is no learning for the me as a student while they dictate/call up consults/whatever they get paid to do ,,,when they could have sent me home so i could read/study. these residents (from my experience) seem to be awful at teaching and have no regard for medical students except to make their lives miserable.. residents that fell into this category mostly were from Peds, FM, some from IM


you can see that different residents from different specialties will fall into different categories, stereotyping will always be a foolhardy approach in medicine but unfortunately we do it all the time
 
I think you need a mixture of nice and mean, but obviously you want them leaning more to the nice side. Sometimes the hostility is warranted in which case go ahead but there's nothing that makes me check out of rotation quicker than a raging hardass without a cause. People like that seemed to be concentrated on the IM wards. On my first day, in the first 10 minutes, my whole group was chewed out for absolutely nothing at all. I mean we were early and we said good morning. What else do you want in the first 10 minutes? He hadn't even asked us a question yet or anything and he sure as hell didn't know our names but he stood there telling us off for almost half an hour. After that I simply stepped off the IM train, I grabbed a cubicle in the library and did the absolute minimum that was required (actually it was a lot less than the absolute minimum).